Collectibles

DDuke

Sorry if this has been posted before, but has anyone else been having trouble getting some of the new collectibles added in the patch?

• Stranglers in Coldharbour now have a chance of dropping Tentacles for the achievement Nature’s Guardians.
• Nix-Hounds can now drop Multifaceted Eyes.
• All ghosts now have a chance to drop Ectoplasmic Discharge.
• Bull Netches will now drop Bile Gilt.

So far, I've only managed to get Lashing Tentacle from the stranglers in Coldharbour (after around 15 minutes of killing them). Edit: I also managed to get the Multifaceted Eye (after a 12-hour grind of nixhounds & ghosts in Stonefalls, Heimlyn Keep)

However, after around 12 hours of slaughtering nixhounds, ghosts & bull netches in Stonefalls (VR6), I'm yet to see a Multifaceted Eye, Ectoplasmic Discharge or Bile Gilt.

Is anyone else having trouble with getting these, or am I just being really unlucky?

vyal

I've never seen any creature drop a Collectible of any kind, pre or post patch. (past, or present)

Were they supposed to start dropping? There's no mention of it in the patch notes..

nerevarine1138

Sounds like you're about the same level of lucky as everyone else. These things are a pretty low drop rate.

traigusb14_ESO2

dunno how busted it is.

Not sure if they have to be XP level monsters to get drops, or if you can farm low stuff.

A lot of body drops off of grey monsters is broken, worms, guts, hides, etc..right now.

So they may only be drop;ping off of XP leveled mobs.

Gecko

I got a skull from a level 27 skeleton in one of the Delves in Rivenspire last night. That is the only thing I have seen and the first confirmation I had that they did in fact make the patch.

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô

FYI: If you happen to find a (blue/rare) Trophy drop.....
DO NOT press "e" to use it!!!!
It will vanish!!!!!!! <true story>
I guess with this patch, they gave us fun collectible items, but will not provide customer service to help retrieve said trophy(s) if you elect to use them and they are sucked away into the oblivion. I was told that this is a user "risk" within the game of ESO. Sadly, I discovered this the hard way when I went to use my petrified frozen spider egg. I only used the item because I thought that perhaps it was a pet.
All I got, was heartache and a huge runaround. I will never use a trophy item in-game ever again.....lesson learned! Thank you so much Tu'whacca and Zenimax!

nerevarine1138

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

FYI: If you happen to find a (blue/rare) Trophy drop.....
DO NOT press "e" to use it!!!!
It will vanish!!!!!!! <true story>
I guess with this patch, they gave us fun collectible items, but will not provide customer service to help retrieve said trophy(s) if you elect to use them and they are sucked away into the oblivion. I was told that this is a user "risk" within the game of ESO. Sadly, I discovered this the hard way when I went to use my petrified frozen spider egg. I only used the item because I thought that perhaps it was a pet.
All I got, was heartache and a huge runaround. I will never use a trophy item in-game ever again.....lesson learned! Thank you so much Tu'whacca and Zenimax!

/sigh

Using it is what gives you credit towards the achievement.

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

nerevarine1138

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

The item doesn't do anything, and you need to use it for the achievement. I think you're confused about what the purpose of the collectibles is...

DDuke

I'm curious, has anyone got a collectible from a VR mob? Might be they only drop in non-VR zones.

UrQuan

I never saw a single collectable drop before the patch. Since the patch I've seen one (the one from a bear). Probably working as intended now, as I assume that there should be a fairly low drop rate.

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

The item doesn't do anything, and you need to use it for the achievement. I think you're confused about what the purpose of the collectibles is...

No confusion here. The cake was a lie, but there is no reason why I cannot have the achievement as well as the right to keep the looted item.
Additionally, the item that I am referring, was labeled a trophy with a user option.
In my world, that means it would be like a Fetish of Anger, Gemstone of Skeletal Visage, Bonesnap Binding Stone, etc......but in the reality of Tamriel it is nonfunctional like a "commonly found trophy fish".
Unlike the fish in-game, which is normally placed in ones bag unless it is a rare catch, then and only then, is said fish not rendered as loot, but rather digitally imprinted in the achievements.....never to be placed in a bag slot.
Understand the difference?
There should be some type of consistency within the infrastructure of the game. If it is an item that is to be only used as an achievement, then please, by all means as soon as it is looted, transform it into a digital thumbprint within the achievements, but do not place it in my bag as other usable trophies are. (Treat it equally as the trophy fish are within the game.) There is a disconnect and I see that you clearly are not heeding the perspective I am trying hard to so adequately express.

rainith2000nub18_ESO

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

I think there is a saying that fits here, something about having your cake and eating it too...

Anath_Q

Actually, rare green and blue fish are now looted items with a gold value (well, the blue ones at least). Sadly, "using" them does not result in my being able to dual wield a pair of slaughterfish. So, all "trophy" items now find a way into your bag, whether you can actually use them in game play, or not.

Better, perhaps, would be to label the collectibles as "collectibles", then their use, or lack thereof, would be more transparent.

VinnOmniusVeritas

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

The item doesn't do anything, and you need to use it for the achievement. I think you're confused about what the purpose of the collectibles is...

No confusion here.

I disagree. I think you don't see your own confusion.

Some trophies you can re-use by hitting Use. They can go in your quickslots and they can be used over and over, never disappearing.

Some other trophies can only be used ONCE, then they disappear but you get an achievement, one or more skill points, or a new ability (i.e. Eidetic memory).

You desire that ALL trophies should act the same and that was your original gameplay expectation. Hence your disappointment to find out that the developers had intentionally chosen to create trophies that can act in individual ways.

The main point is, for ALL trophies across the board, to USE the trophy is to invoke its intended purpose.

jdandrews108b14_ESO

Found this topic and decided I would post.

the day of the patch I was I literally just started the VR Grahtwood Zone and near the starting point for it there are two of the water nymph creatures that are somewhat rare to find (forgot the real name) but the first one I killed dropped the nature collectible for them.

After moving forward a bit I was questing in the Worm Cult section nearby killing skeletons when "Chattering Skull" dropped as well.

I will post pictures of the items in my inventory later, as I am on a different machine for now, but yes I have found and collected a collectible after the 1.3 patch.

Edit: they do not sit in your bag. Once you pick up the item it will appear in your inventory, but will not count toward the achievement until you click the item and "collect" it. This removes it from the inventory and adds to the achievement tracking

DDuke

Ok, that is good to know (both that they drop in VR zones, and that they dont have a drop cooldown).

I guess I will just keep grinding these nixhounds & ghosts then, those things should drop eventually :P

gunplummer

Up until last night I believed collectibles were an urban legend much like Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, and everything written on the internet was true. However, I picked up 2 collectibles last night for the first time. Both were picked up in dungeons. I personally think they just forgot to add them. I also believe that by the time I start playing tonight Zos will have rolled back the servers and they will become a distant memory.

DDuke

Update: after a good 12+ hours of grinding, I finally managed to get the Multifaceted Eye to drop. Heimlyn Keep is an excellent place for grinding that out (lots of nixhounds, as well as ghosts for the Ectoplasmic Discharge)

traigusb14_ESO2

gunplummer wrote: »

Up until last night I believed collectibles were an urban legend much like Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, and everything written on the internet was true. However, I picked up 2 collectibles last night for the first time. Both were picked up in dungeons. I personally think they just forgot to add them. I also believe that by the time I start playing tonight Zos will have rolled back the servers and they will become a distant memory.

They weren't working at all until Monday.

traigusb14_ESO2

DDuke wrote: »

Update: after a good 12+ hours of grinding, I finally managed to get the Multifaceted Eye to drop. Heimlyn Keep is an excellent place for grinding that out (lots of nixhounds, as well as ghosts for the Ectoplasmic Discharge)

Can they be Grey mobs, or do they have to be XP level mobs?

Wizzo91

I've played since release, leveled through all content and ran all dungeons.

Not one single collectible drop. Are they even in the game?

DDuke

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Update: after a good 12+ hours of grinding, I finally managed to get the Multifaceted Eye to drop. Heimlyn Keep is an excellent place for grinding that out (lots of nixhounds, as well as ghosts for the Ectoplasmic Discharge)

Can they be Grey mobs, or do they have to be XP level mobs?

I'm VR12 and the ones I killed were VR6, so I guess as long as you can loot them they can drop.

traigusb14_ESO2

DDuke wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Update: after a good 12+ hours of grinding, I finally managed to get the Multifaceted Eye to drop. Heimlyn Keep is an excellent place for grinding that out (lots of nixhounds, as well as ghosts for the Ectoplasmic Discharge)

Can they be Grey mobs, or do they have to be XP level mobs?

I'm VR12 and the ones I killed were VR6, so I guess as long as you can loot them they can drop.

Thanks. Been trying to get by last Anchor general today on and off and haven't seen anything from grays at dolmens. wasn't sure if it was bad luck or not.

Didn't want to go on a tear in a low level dungeon or something and not get anything.

nerevarine1138

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô wrote: »

I would like both.....the achievement and the item. It is not that complicated to provide both.

The item doesn't do anything, and you need to use it for the achievement. I think you're confused about what the purpose of the collectibles is...

No confusion here. The cake was a lie, but there is no reason why I cannot have the achievement as well as the right to keep the looted item.
Additionally, the item that I am referring, was labeled a trophy with a user option.
In my world, that means it would be like a Fetish of Anger, Gemstone of Skeletal Visage, Bonesnap Binding Stone, etc......but in the reality of Tamriel it is nonfunctional like a "commonly found trophy fish".
Unlike the fish in-game, which is normally placed in ones bag unless it is a rare catch, then and only then, is said fish not rendered as loot, but rather digitally imprinted in the achievements.....never to be placed in a bag slot.
Understand the difference?
There should be some type of consistency within the infrastructure of the game. If it is an item that is to be only used as an achievement, then please, by all means as soon as it is looted, transform it into a digital thumbprint within the achievements, but do not place it in my bag as other usable trophies are. (Treat it equally as the trophy fish are within the game.) There is a disconnect and I see that you clearly are not heeding the perspective I am trying hard to so adequately express.

What "function" did you think it had?

The only function of these trophies is to be used for the achievement. They aren't like the trophies that get used multiple times, so your perspective is warped.

Dagoth_Rac

Got something from a bat in VR1 Auridon. I "used" it thinking it would have some clever function like the Public Dungeon trophies. But it just disappeared. Which is fine. There are like a hundred of these collectibles, it is asking a lot for them all to have custom animations.

Blÿthë_Sëgrëdô

[/quote]
What "function" did you think it had?

The only function of these trophies is to be used for the achievement. They aren't like the trophies that get used multiple times, so your perspective is warped.[/quote]

I have been corrupted and my mind warped by another undisclosed MMO game.....
<true story>
I was in the hopes that it was a PET.....
A small tiny blue spiderling with a frosty hue about it.....
You would have to read the item skin to understand why I thought that....
<sadpanda>
Please understand that I looted it right after the patch and I did not know what the item was. I even opened a ticket up on the matter and the customer service department was even more clueless then I was. </facepalm>They basically told me that there are just certain risks within the game....they did not know about the relation between the egg and the achievement. I only discovered that bit, while reading the forums. With that said, I now know that it is just an achievement related item.
I would however like to still have the item. There is no other cool items to collect in the game besides the trophy items that create a graphic animation.
(However, I have come across some random funny items to collect within the game: Imp Stool being the best! Caramelized Goat Nibblets and Membrane: are worthy of holding on to as well.)

nerevarine1138

ZO is not responsible for your lack of comprehension.

That said, if all you want is to have the item in your inventory (you'll quickly run out of space), nothing is stopping you from collecting it again. It serves no purpose except to help you get the achievement, but whatever floats your boat.

dan0311

I'm going to side with the "WTF?" crowd. All of the trophies I have collected since April have either had the ability to be Quickslotted and used to perform a function (bear trap, little floating green things, eat meat and puke) or they simply did nothing. These new trophies are in consumables and EVERYTHING else in my consumables DOES something when you click it.

What, exactly is the point of getting an item when all it does is disappear when you click on it? Isn't there enough pointless, frustrating "WTF" stuff in this game without adding yet another random thing that is, in this case, programmed to behave like a glitch?

So clicking it gets me closer to some Acheivement? Fine. Throw a short little line of text on the screen to let me know that. Or make one little piece of "poof there it goes" animation to cover all these new trophies so that the player knows it is not just glitching out but is actually getting them closer to something desirable.

And for the record, any time I have gotten an achievement in the past, there was a sound played and text on the screen telling me what happened. When something is listed in Consumables and can be used by clicking the E key and then absolutely...nothing...happens, that IS definitely a WTF moment.

Sometimes the only difference between a stupid pointless act and a meaningful task is a rational explanation. Throw us a bone there, ZOS.

Gulvar

dan0311 wrote: »

I'm going to side with the "WTF?" crowd. All of the trophies I have collected since April have either had the ability to be Quickslotted and used to perform a function (bear trap, little floating green things, eat meat and puke) or they simply did nothing. These new trophies are in consumables and EVERYTHING else in my consumables DOES something when you click it.

What, exactly is the point of getting an item when all it does is disappear when you click on it? Isn't there enough pointless, frustrating "WTF" stuff in this game without adding yet another random thing that is, in this case, programmed to behave like a glitch?

So clicking it gets me closer to some Acheivement? Fine. Throw a short little line of text on the screen to let me know that. Or make one little piece of "poof there it goes" animation to cover all these new trophies so that the player knows it is not just glitching out but is actually getting them closer to something desirable.

And for the record, any time I have gotten an achievement in the past, there was a sound played and text on the screen telling me what happened. When something is listed in Consumables and can be used by clicking the E key and then absolutely...nothing...happens, that IS definitely a WTF moment.

Sometimes the only difference between a stupid pointless act and a meaningful task is a rational explanation. Throw us a bone there, ZOS.

I suspect they're in the form of a clickable item so you can put them in the bank for your other characters.

Nestor

dan0311 wrote: »

What, exactly is the point of getting an item when all it does is disappear when you click on it? Isn't there enough pointless, frustrating "WTF" stuff in this game without adding yet another random thing that is, in this case, programmed to behave like a glitch?

The Collectibles give you an Achievement. You don't get the Achievement credit until you use the Collectible. I actually like this as I can send the Collectible to a character that does not have it yet and may have the others then have them use it. Or, I can sell them. Or, even better, buy them from a Guild Store....

Trophies on the other hand stay in your inventory and most have some kind of use in game.