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Crushing Glyph + Sharpened --- OVERKILL

Suntzu1414
Thank you for taking the time (to read this post).

I'm looking at making a new set of armors/weapons.
My main focus is PvP. My Class is NB



I'm typically fighting against: DK (heavy armor)

Looking at creating a new set of armors/Weapons (glyph):

1. Weapons - Crushing Glyph (total 1200 removed)
2. Armor - Magica



---Question--Which Traits (for armors / weapons):

a Sharpened (to counteract ---my enemies--- Impenetrable (crit resist))
OR
b Infused (to give more magica)

-->Will the Sharpened help counteract my enemies Impenetrable? or because i have reduced their armor effect to nil (its not necessary)

Infused is no brainer because it gives me more power + more throughput (on Magica). But, if its not translating into DPS, then i would go with Sharpened.



thank you
ST
DC - NB VR15 - Khajit - DW / S+B / Bow
DC - NB VR 15 - Wood Elf - S+B / Resto
DC - TP VR 15 - Brenton - Resto / Dual Wield
DC - SC VR 12 - High Elf - Desto / Dual Wield
EP - TP VR 5 - Nord - 2hd / 2hd
EP - DK 20 - Imperial - S+B / Desto / Bow
  • Natjur
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    I thought V12 Glyph of Crushing only removes 600 armor or am I missing something? And they do not stack. Two weapons or even 1 weapon triggering twice, only removes 600 armor. They also do not stack with any other armor lowering trigger (Night Mother’s Gaze -Critical attacks also reduce the targets armor by 20% for 5 seconds)

    If the target has 600 armor over the current armor soft cap, Glyph of Crushing does little.

    Almost everyone in PVP wear sets with full Impenetrable (70% crit resist, Sorcs can't crit on you and therefore can't self heal) and has almost become a must have. If I am wrong, can someone show me some numbers, as I was informed that trying to lower the targets armor in PVP is almost a waste of time. (and 100% waste in PVE)
    Edited by Natjur on August 4, 2014 2:08AM
  • Suntzu1414
    I understand your concern. And appreciate your feedback... (and i clearly miscalculated)

    STILL, this is all away from my question.... and i'm sorry, that we went down this tangent. (i don't use English that often these days)

    --Does Sharpening Counteract Impenetrable?? or does Impenetrable follow the armor (so if you don't have ...or have reduced armor ...you have reduced impenetrable effect)

    appreciate your thoughtful response.
    DC - NB VR15 - Khajit - DW / S+B / Bow
    DC - NB VR 15 - Wood Elf - S+B / Resto
    DC - TP VR 15 - Brenton - Resto / Dual Wield
    DC - SC VR 12 - High Elf - Desto / Dual Wield
    EP - TP VR 5 - Nord - 2hd / 2hd
    EP - DK 20 - Imperial - S+B / Desto / Bow
  • PlagueMonk
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    AFAIK, impenetrable only negates crit %, not other abilities. It would be even more OPed than it is right now otherwise.
  • Natjur
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    Sharpening counteract Reinforced
    Impenetrable counteract Precise (Weapon\Spell Crit)
    Edited by Natjur on August 4, 2014 4:19AM
  • Faulgor
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    Natjur wrote: »
    I thought V12 Glyph of Crushing only removes 600 armor or am I missing something? And they do not stack. Two weapons or even 1 weapon triggering twice, only removes 600 armor. They also do not stack with any other armor lowering trigger (Night Mother’s Gaze -Critical attacks also reduce the targets armor by 20% for 5 seconds)

    If the target has 600 armor over the current armor soft cap, Glyph of Crushing does little.

    What about Puncture/Ransack/Pierce Armor from the One Hand and Shield tree? Will only the bigger effect (-40% or -600) stick?
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  • Kosilein
    Kosilein
    Natjur wrote: »
    Almost everyone in PVP wear sets with full Impenetrable (70% crit resist, Sorcs can't crit on you and therefore can't self heal) and has almost become a must have. If I am wrong, can someone show me some numbers, as I was informed that trying to lower the targets armor in PVP is almost a waste of time. (and 100% waste in PVE)

    is it not enough to get 50% crit resist so you can have 2 items with infused or get a sorc more then 50% crit chance?

  • Natjur
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    Kosilein wrote: »
    Natjur wrote: »
    Almost everyone in PVP wear sets with full Impenetrable (70% crit resist, Sorcs can't crit on you and therefore can't self heal) and has almost become a must have. If I am wrong, can someone show me some numbers, as I was informed that trying to lower the targets armor in PVP is almost a waste of time. (and 100% waste in PVE)
    is it not enough to get 50% crit resist so you can have 2 items with infused or get a sorc more then 50% crit chance?
    From all the testing I have read and the tests I have run myself, V12 Legendary with Impenetrable, gives 100 Crit resit which means it will lowers the crit chance of the person hitting you by 10%

    Most sorc in PVP run with about 50% crit chance, so you want to run with around 500 Crit resit (5 Legendary items with Impenetrable), so yes, having 6 or 7 pieces with Impenetrable is optional, but with the set changes, some players can get very high crit rates.

    I personally use 5 pieces Seducer Set with Impenetrable and 5 pieces of warlock (helm, shoulders and 3 jewelry)
    Edited by Natjur on August 4, 2014 11:56PM
  • Kosilein
    Kosilein
    ok thank you @Natjur
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