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Hybrid builds!
dietlime
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Okay people, this isn't World of Warcraft. The game has a basic "trinity"; but these roles aren't strict in ESO like they are in other MMO's. You can't be a jack of all trades, but you sure can be a jack of two.
Let's hear it for the hybrids! Lately a lot of players have been refusing to play with me because they have pre-conceptions about roles. I can't be dishonest and say "I'm a dedicated healer" when I'm a tanky healer - mostly capable of high burst heals. It wouldn't be fair to them, if they were expecting infinite Healing Springs. They literally leave a party while I'm handing them provisioning items before even trying something unique: like it'll kill them to die once in a dungeon paying out 1-2K in gold alone.
That said, when you left my party today, I facetanked every boss through the level 36 dungeons- all three of them, while also healing myself (and by effect my teammates).
Making a character play two roles is challenging, and something fairly unique to ESO. The game is more flexible than most MMORPG players give it credit for, and basically I feel like a lot of opportunity for fun is lost to pre-conceptions about what's "viable".
I know things get harder in Vet, but I think a key element to remember is that hybrids complement each other. If you're tired of minmaxing, share your fun and effective 50/50 characters. You heal me half the time and I'll heal you half the time
Edited by dietlime on August 2, 2014 12:08AM Let's hear it for the hybrids! Lately a lot of players have been refusing to play with me because they have pre-conceptions about roles. I can't be dishonest and say "I'm a dedicated healer" when I'm a tanky healer - mostly capable of high burst heals. It wouldn't be fair to them, if they were expecting infinite Healing Springs. They literally leave a party while I'm handing them provisioning items before even trying something unique: like it'll kill them to die once in a dungeon paying out 1-2K in gold alone.
That said, when you left my party today, I facetanked every boss through the level 36 dungeons- all three of them, while also healing myself (and by effect my teammates).
Making a character play two roles is challenging, and something fairly unique to ESO. The game is more flexible than most MMORPG players give it credit for, and basically I feel like a lot of opportunity for fun is lost to pre-conceptions about what's "viable".
I know things get harder in Vet, but I think a key element to remember is that hybrids complement each other. If you're tired of minmaxing, share your fun and effective 50/50 characters. You heal me half the time and I'll heal you half the time
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UPrime✭✭✭✭I agree.
My first char (V2 NB) is pure DPS because I didn't know any better when I spect.
My Templar (V7) is DPS/Healer/Tank spec, because why not?
My Sorc (lvl 49) is DPS/Healer/Tank spec, because again, why not?
You have enough points to pick up all the passives to do all 3 rolls plus necessary active abilities. Maybe switch some gear between tanking vs DPS/Healing. There's no reason why a single char can't do all 3 assuming the player wants to.2 -
dietlime✭✭✭✭A lot of the tanking is focuses on stamina and mitigation. I find you can also "tank" by stacking health regeneration and heal over time (hello Cleansing Ritual). Of course you're still doing the things a typical tank does, but you don't invest in stamina.Edited by dietlime on August 2, 2014 12:25AM0
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Marcusstratus✭✭✭-marcusstratus' wife speaking-
My husband's veteran rank 2 sorcerer is both DPS and Healer, he's focused on storm calling and restoration staff and can easily switch between the two sets of skills in the midst of battle with weapon swapping. And it works out great! It's especially useful when he's doing something on his own, but it seems like having the flexibility is nice in a group as well when different situations may call for a little extra of one or the other. I remember one time watching him doing a dungeon where the thing that finally got them through the boss was when he switched from healer to DPS and the tank just kept himself alive while drawing off a crowd of smaller ghosts, while the other three just pounded the main boss, previously the other two hadn't been doing enough damage to take him out fast enough - and once gone the crowd of conjured ghosts dissipated. If he hadn't been able to switch roles I think they would have been stuck in there forever. I've also seen him swap roles with another hybrid character in the midst of battle when for whatever reason what was working before wasn't working in a particular fight and they discovered the other's skills were better suited for that situation, and he's able to fill in and sort of dual-role for someone who's died until they're resurrected. It seems to me like a very sensible plan.
Personally I haven't done any group dungeons yet, so I haven't dealt with people discriminating against my jack-of-many-trades builds, but I really like being able to take on different roles as needed if I happen to find myself fighting alongside others during quests or in public dungeons. I haven't reached veteran ranks yet so I don't have personal experience with how well my choices will work out at that point, but for now I really like the flexibility.Edited by Marcusstratus on August 2, 2014 12:55AM0 -
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No its broken in vet. There is one spec and its light armor and staves. Enjoy your lvling process its great fun . But vr is right around the corner and it has its pants down peeing in your cheerios.Okay people, this isn't World of Warcraft. The game has a basic "trinity"; but these roles aren't strict in ESO like they are in other MMO's. You can't be a jack of all trades, but you sure can be a jack of two.
Let's hear it for the hybrids! Lately a lot of players have been refusing to play with me because they have pre-conceptions about roles. I can't be dishonest and say "I'm a dedicated healer" when I'm a tanky healer - mostly capable of high burst heals. It wouldn't be fair to them, if they were expecting infinite Healing Springs. They literally leave a party while I'm handing them provisioning items before even trying something unique: like it'll kill them to die once in a dungeon paying out 1-2K in gold alone.
That said, when you left my party today, I facetanked every boss through the level 36 dungeons- all three of them, while also healing myself (and by effect my teammates).
Making a character play two roles is challenging, and something fairly unique to ESO. The game is more flexible than most MMORPG players give it credit for, and basically I feel like a lot of opportunity for fun is lost to pre-conceptions about what's "viable".
I know things get harder in Vet, but I think a key element to remember is that hybrids complement each other. If you're tired of minmaxing, share your fun and effective 50/50 characters. You heal me half the time and I'll heal you half the time
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dietlime✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »No its broken in vet. There is one spec and its light armor and staves. Enjoy your lvling process its great fun . But vr is right around the corner and it has its pants down peeing in your cheerios.
I've played it, and you're full of ***. My overcharged armor and spell resist let me stand in some crazy ***, even at vet 1. Also, they're going to nerf that. I'm seriously basking in almost 200hp/s over here not blocking things because my wounds heal so fast there isn't a reason to. I'm getting parties wiped when I screw up and miss a block, getting thrown and having the boss aggro switch.
Diablo comparison again, Inferno was broken. They fixed it. Now people beat Belial without using one of two cheesy strategies.
Maybe not the best approach to design, but it works.Edited by dietlime on August 2, 2014 5:01AM1 -
DanteVFenris✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »
No its broken in vet. There is one spec and its light armor and staves. Enjoy your lvling process its great fun . But vr is right around the corner and it has its pants down peeing in your cheerios.Okay people, this isn't World of Warcraft. The game has a basic "trinity"; but these roles aren't strict in ESO like they are in other MMO's. You can't be a jack of all trades, but you sure can be a jack of two.
Let's hear it for the hybrids! Lately a lot of players have been refusing to play with me because they have pre-conceptions about roles. I can't be dishonest and say "I'm a dedicated healer" when I'm a tanky healer - mostly capable of high burst heals. It wouldn't be fair to them, if they were expecting infinite Healing Springs. They literally leave a party while I'm handing them provisioning items before even trying something unique: like it'll kill them to die once in a dungeon paying out 1-2K in gold alone.
That said, when you left my party today, I facetanked every boss through the level 36 dungeons- all three of them, while also healing myself (and by effect my teammates).
Making a character play two roles is challenging, and something fairly unique to ESO. The game is more flexible than most MMORPG players give it credit for, and basically I feel like a lot of opportunity for fun is lost to pre-conceptions about what's "viable".
I know things get harder in Vet, but I think a key element to remember is that hybrids complement each other. If you're tired of minmaxing, share your fun and effective 50/50 characters. You heal me half the time and I'll heal you half the time
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dietlime✭✭✭✭I really think it's a lot of lack of imagination on the part of the MMO community, which I see as spoiled by game-after-game that are nearly cookie-cutter.
People jazz hands about their armor soft cap in light/medium, meanwhile I'm standing by them (inside my ring of protection) with over 2K armor. You can push those soft caps, just not more than one or two of them. It can be done.Edited by dietlime on August 2, 2014 5:07AM0