So... Patch notes?

rophez_ESO

I don't get why you guys don't put the patch notes up at the start of maintenance. Other MMO's do it. It gives us fans something to read and discuss while we wait. Are you afraid the patch won't take and that you'll have to rescind those notes? Don't worry about it. Just put big red letters at the top saying, "Patch put on hold until next maintenance." Big deal!

ZOS_GinaBruno

We're actually wrapping up the notes now, and will have them published very soon!

alreadybaked

I agree with you, that seems to be the only reason they wouldn't post it. They could even say on the patch notes, its possible not all of these things will take affect. Then once they get the servers back up tell us what didn't go as planned

SoulScream

Good, nice to read changes while wait for server up.

Fairydragon3

i guess popcorn day is almost over

Kre

they usually post them at the same time maint is over with or about to be over with. Hope they come up soon though, jonezin to play BTW Thanks all you dev's for your hard work

Mountain_Dewed

How about maintenance? Can we expect a couple more hours? I'm just curious to know if I should get started on some yard work or not, please? Thank You

ZOS_GinaBruno

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

How about maintenance? Can we expect a couple more hours? I'm just curious to know if I should get started on some yard work or not, please? Thank You

Maintenance should be complete within the hour so unless you have a small yard, you may want to wait.

AngryNord

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're actually wrapping up the notes now, and will have them published very soon!

And 20 minutes later there's still nothing...

rekina

Am I the only one who keep pressing F5 every second?

Goibot

They must figure out what they did before they can post them!

rophez_ESO

Kre wrote: »

they usually post them at the same time maint is over with or about to be over with

Yeah, I know. The question is why. Surely they know what is going to be in the patch prior to the actual patch going out. Why not have this stuff typed up ahead of time. Maybe keep a working document that gets added to as the patch is developed. I dunno - it doesn't seem crazy to me; other MMOs have the notes ready before the patch goes out.

Not knocking you, Gina and Jessica - I know you both work really hard. Maybe have Matt Firor type them up

Fissh

these seem like trivial complaints. Just take it easy guys, your crack dealer will be knocking on your door soon enough with your fix

kitsinni

Since the patch is already downloading lets hope they know what the patch was.

Goibot

You are right, it doesn't make sense. Maybe if they could explain their process and include the WHY it would help. But alas that requires communication....

Inklings

rophez_ESO wrote: »

Kre wrote: »

they usually post them at the same time maint is over with or about to be over with

Yeah, I know. The question is why. Surely they know what is going to be in the patch prior to the actual patch going out. Why not have this stuff typed up ahead of time. Maybe keep a working document that gets added to as the patch is developed. I dunno - it doesn't seem crazy to me; other MMOs have the notes ready before the patch goes out.

Not knocking you, Gina and Jessica - I know you both work really hard. Maybe have Matt Firor type them up

The fact that the last few patches have had so many "stealth" buffs/nerfs/changes really worries me. They either dont keep track of what they are changing very well or do this on purpose for some reason. Either way it doesn't sit easy with me.

Sotha_Sil

rekina wrote: »

Am I the only one who keep pressing F5 every second?

yes... it's the quakecon effect... I still hope there is going some of that stuff in this patch note even though I know there won't :S

Wizzo91

How desperate are you people? They will be uploaded when they are ready.

If ZoS prefers to put the patch notes up close before maintenance completion you will have do deal with it.

Just do something else while waiting.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO

20 years or so software development experience...documentation is always the last thing done. No, that isn't how it is supposed to work: requirements, design, implementation, test, integration...but that is just how it always seems to play out. Documentation gets the lowest priority (or seems to).

True story, I got laugh at on a telecon when I asked for documentation on a software project long after it had been fielded. I would have laugh too if I hadn't been asked to guide a team's implementation using that product's API. So, instead I muted the call and screamed...it helped.

arena25

Uh, oh, the patcher just loaded a patch in. Start your engines!

Goibot

So are you saying that they "Literally don't know what they are doing until they have done it"?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Ok, patch notes are now published. Thanks for hanging in there! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121430/patch-notes-v1-2-6

Malpherian

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

How about maintenance? Can we expect a couple more hours? I'm just curious to know if I should get started on some yard work or not, please? Thank You

Maintenance should be complete within the hour so unless you have a small yard, you may want to wait.

Oh good did you add anything? Or just do some fixes?

theyancey

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121430/patch-notes-v1-2-6#latest

arena25

Mainly that they took away my source of free AP's. Darn it. I was really looking forward to being the hero of the day by deploying a forward camp and overwhelming Ebonheart Pact.

I'll clue you in, it's with regards to Blue Road Keep.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Malpherian wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

How about maintenance? Can we expect a couple more hours? I'm just curious to know if I should get started on some yard work or not, please? Thank You

Maintenance should be complete within the hour so unless you have a small yard, you may want to wait.

Oh good did you add anything? Or just do some fixes?

Today's patch is mainly fixes - we'll be releasing Update 3 in the beginning of August which will have many new additions to the game.

Caroloces

How about maintenance? Can we expect a couple more hours? I'm just curious to know if I should get started on some yard work or not, please? Thank You

Please, keep the maintenance going all day. My yard has been really neglected this summer because of this darn game!

Malpherian

So.. a 4 hour downtime for some general bug and quest fixes totaling a 200mb patch.....?

Blizzard does that in 30 minuets. Why does your downtime take so long?

cracker81

Well could be many things. A) the boss wants a report in a certain format to see what has and will be accomplished and the team has to copy paste what the reader wants to know. on paper and retype it. C) same as A but low staff today. D) meeting and after meeting send out. E) person that is suppose to send out patch notes is getting some couch, teach and mentorship from the boss. Of course RL stuff.

arena25

Hello? A server has more parts than a computer, plus it's new, plus it's a megaserver, which means its bigger than Blizzard's server. Now, let's all grab a bite to eat, by the time we get back, server's up. Set your clocks to 10 minutes...and go!

Fairydragon3

Malpherian wrote: »

So.. a 4 hour downtime for some general bug and quest fixes totaling a 200mb patch.....?

Blizzard does that in 30 minuets. Why does your downtime take so long?

Answer: they are not blizzard