Oh my goodness the rage!

Hofi814

I log into ESO last night and see "Steam now offering ESO" I thought "Oh cool more people will be playing. Sweetness! More people more fun!"

I played went to bed... I woke up this morning to check the forums and holy good lord of all that is furry and doglike anywhere in the world! Why are people so upset and hurt about the dog?

Does it seriously matter? I mean I Beta tested, pre-ordered, and got the Imperial edition. So I got meh Monkey, meh mud crab, and meh scuttler. None of them hardly ever even leave my bank.... Why is everyone so upset?

ZOS didn't take anything from you, they didn't give the Steam purchasers anything super special. They don't even get the option for the Explorer pack I believe. Either way being they do or don't. Who really cares? It's just a digital dog... I don't think it will be game breaking to not get it.

I am pretty sure you can still PvE/PvP/adventure/craft/kill stuff/ride a horse/be the hero/make friends/be in a guild. Nothing is different because of the dogs.. Just chill lol

Good day sir.. I SAID GOOD DAY!

Miflett

Once again I say, actions speaks louder than words and that it's how a company treats its consumer base that riles people up, not necessarily the fact that it's a dog.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however.

Nox_Aeterna

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

reggielee

i agree, life is full of sales that I dont get because I already have the product. I dont have a fit and demand I get the sale price or product

preevious

You are perfectly right,

There's a thing those angry poeples wanting a dog do not realize ..

If they bough the imperial edition, they would receive a list of items/advantages, etc ..all these where clearly stated. Zenimax wrote a contract, and those player signed, knowing full well what they where signing for.

Zenimax has EVERY rights to write has many different contracts as they want for players to sign. Nothing more is to be said .. you signed a contract, lucky you, you got exactly what you wanted. that dog just isn't part of it.

It's as simple as that.

Now, go to your bank, and ask for the same loan conditions as your neighbor, cause they're better than yours, and you'll see what they'll say .

DenverRalphy

The people raging are just people who go out of their way to find something to rage about, because that's all they know how to live online.

Myself personally, I say "Nice to see you Steam users! Hey, that's a mighty fine looking dog you've got there!" without kind of jealousy behind it.

Every MMO offers exclusives to different players based upon when or where they purchased the product or subscription from.

What really gets me though, are the "The faithful are being ignored/betrayed!" comments. The game has been out a whole whopping 3 months. "Customer appreciation" rewards typically don't start to appear in MMOs for at least 6-12 months after release.

ers101284b14_ESO

My beta Monkey pet did nasty things to their dog pet. Take that steam.

Miflett

preevious wrote: »

You are perfectly right,

There's a thing those angry poeples wanting a dog do not realize ..

If they bough the imperial edition, they would receive a list of items/advantages, etc ..all these where clearly stated. Zenimax wrote a contract, and those player signed, knowing full well what they where signing for.

Zenimax has EVERY rights to write has many different contracts as they want for players to sign. Nothing more is to be said .. you signed a contract, lucky you, you got exactly what you wanted. that dog just isn't part of it.

It's as simple as that.

Now, go to your bank, and ask for the same loan conditions as your neighbor, cause they're better than yours, and you'll see what they'll say .

There's a pretty simple answer to this, methinks. Just because something is true, doesn't make it entirely good or appreciated. I can be denied a life saving surgery because I don't have insurance and while it was previously a valid thing, it doesn't make the patient any less saddened by the fact.

Mr.Turtlesworth

yeah but I want a dog

twev

@Hofi8:
People, (group 'A', for simplicity) with no opinion, or minimum investment in an idea, concept or condition frequently tend to be surprised that other people,(group 'B', for simplicity) do have an opinion that is much more strongly felt, and frequently chalk it up to the opinion holder needing to get a life.

Now, I'm not saying you are in group 'A', as I don't know you, but please keep in mind that these group 'A' people who have no opinion also have no clue what kind of issues the group 'B' people have to deal with in their normal/regular/professional or slacker lives.

And they, (group 'A' people) equally tend to ignore that some people, (anyone else), come to games to forget things in their lives that are unpleasant, mundane, or just annoying as ducksnot and want the game to be an alternate space where they CAN have some time doing things the way they really want them to be.

Voicing an opinion about preferred alternate realities in a game involving alternate realities that one pays a fee to temporarily escape into would seem to be a reasonable outlet for people who would like their opinions known, yes?

DenverRalphy

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What content are you being locked out of? It's a friggin vanity item. By the very definition of the term, anybody getting riled up over it are doing nothing more than acting in a Vain manner.

WebBull

Hofi814 wrote: »

I log into ESO last night and see "Steam now offering ESO" I thought "Oh cool more people will be playing. Sweetness! More people more fun!"

I played went to bed... I woke up this morning to check the forums and holy good lord of all that is furry and doglike anywhere in the world! Why are people so upset and hurt about the dog?

Does it seriously matter? I mean I Beta tested, pre-ordered, and got the Imperial edition. So I got meh Monkey, meh mud crab, and meh scuttler. None of them hardly ever even leave my bank.... Why is everyone so upset?

ZOS didn't take anything from you, they didn't give the Steam purchasers anything super special. They don't even get the option for the Explorer pack I believe. Either way being they do or don't. Who really cares? It's just a digital dog... I don't think it will be game breaking to not get it.

I am pretty sure you can still PvE/PvP/adventure/craft/kill stuff/ride a horse/be the hero/make friends/be in a guild. Nothing is different because of the dogs.. Just chill lol

Good day sir.. I SAID GOOD DAY!

Completely agree. Drawing additional people into the game is more important than a stupid vanity pet. People really need to get a grip. This isn't Hello Kitty.

reggielee

I bet those new subs will rage jealour over my munkeeee and crabs. heh

Crumpy

I hate pets they are annoying.

Miflett

reggielee wrote: »

I bet those new subs will rage jealour over my munkeeee and crabs. heh

You can buy both online currently for a grand total of 20 bucks, that's my problem.

Nox_Aeterna

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What content are you being locked out of? It's a friggin vanity item. By the very definition of the term, anybody getting riled up over it are doing nothing more than acting in a Vain manner.

Honestly , i dont care how relevant it seems to you at all.

It IS content of this game that we are being locked out of.

Maybe it will take them giving dragons to wake up to the fact , but hey , some people dont wake up till they get hit really hard on the head.

Audigy

Hofi814 wrote: »

I log into ESO last night and see "Steam now offering ESO" I thought "Oh cool more people will be playing. Sweetness! More people more fun!"

I played went to bed... I woke up this morning to check the forums and holy good lord of all that is furry and doglike anywhere in the world! Why are people so upset and hurt about the dog?

Does it seriously matter? I mean I Beta tested, pre-ordered, and got the Imperial edition. So I got meh Monkey, meh mud crab, and meh scuttler. None of them hardly ever even leave my bank.... Why is everyone so upset?

ZOS didn't take anything from you, they didn't give the Steam purchasers anything super special. They don't even get the option for the Explorer pack I believe. Either way being they do or don't. Who really cares? It's just a digital dog... I don't think it will be game breaking to not get it.

I am pretty sure you can still PvE/PvP/adventure/craft/kill stuff/ride a horse/be the hero/make friends/be in a guild. Nothing is different because of the dogs.. Just chill lol

Good day sir.. I SAID GOOD DAY!

Its all about entitlement of the younger gamers these days. The whine about VR, the whine about balance, the whine about console, the whine about not a hundred raids, about loot in dungeons or xp ... its all coming from the same type of player that now also whines about a vanity pet.

These young folks just cant accept that they don't have everything, so even if there would be a an animated fly in the Steam launcher they would cry and demand one at the ESO launcher too.

To me this is all very sad, especially since there are real problems in this world...

The same whine we will get on the console release or if they add pets and mounts as rewards in the game.

Azzuria

Pretty sure, at some point, the dog will be available via the cash shop. If not, then meh. They'll probably offer something similar at the 1 year mark.

Malthorne

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What content are you being locked out of? It's a friggin vanity item. By the very definition of the term, anybody getting riled up over it are doing nothing more than acting in a Vain manner.

Honestly , i dont care how relevant it seems to you at all.

It IS content of this game that we are being locked out of.

Maybe it will take them giving dragons to wake up to the fact , but hey , some people dont wake up till they get hit really hard on the head.

2nd Era = no dragons
You guys sound like a bunch of tin foil hat politico's. Today a free dog!! Tomorrow it'll be a whole DLC with a new map & missions. Come on. ZOS is trying to attract new players with a small incentive. ...no big deal.

Hofi814

twev wrote: »

@Hofi8:
People, (group 'A', for simplicity) with no opinion, or minimum investment in an idea, concept or condition frequently tend to be surprised that other people,(group 'B', for simplicity) do have an opinion that is much more strongly felt, and frequently chalk it up to the opinion holder needing to get a life.

Now, I'm not saying you are in group 'A', as I don't know you, but please keep in mind that these group 'A' people who have no opinion also have no clue what kind of issues the group 'B' people have to deal with in their normal/regular/professional or slacker lives.

And they, (group 'A' people) equally tend to ignore that some people, (anyone else), come to games to forget things in their lives that are unpleasant, mundane, or just annoying as ducksnot and want the game to be an alternate space where they CAN have some time doing things the way they really want them to be.

Voicing an opinion about preferred alternate realities in a game involving alternate realities that one pays a fee to temporarily escape into would seem to be a reasonable outlet for people who would like their opinions known, yes?

I will agree with the fact that video games are an escape from reality. I my self use ESO for that. I just can't personally see what the big fuss is. I mean not having the pet won't take away my ability to play the game. I just didn't see what the big fuss is all about.

I mean at the end of the day if you honestly want it that bad buy it thru steam. I know I am bound to get the "I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BUY IT AGAIN!!!" answer and I am ok with that.

But other side of that coin, you already bought it knowing you were not getting
the dog. I just don't see why people are so hurt.

That's all, I am totally for people expressing their opinions. Just the rage and the anger about it is what confuses me. Like ZOS owes these people anything... Last I checked we went to ZOS for a game, yes they came to us with a product.

The street goes both ways, but why get mad at the hand that helps. I know that there are not people at ZOS sitting at a desk thinking "How can we totally bone the people who are "loyal" *mind you for a game that has not even been out 6 months*, and praise the new customers... DOGS!!!! DOGS WILL *** THEM ALL OFF!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Robotukas

I don't any reason why they can't give this dog to players who have Imperial Edition. Just I think is not nice to separate players in two groups: Steam and Zenimax

Hofi814

Robotukas wrote: »

I don't any reason why they can't give this dog to players who have Imperial Edition. Just I think is not nice to separate players in two groups: Steam and Zenimax

I don't think they did it to separate players. I don't think it will come down to a guild sayin "You steam, or Zenimax Launcher?". I just can't wrap my head around the fuss.

Honest I don't care if they took all of my pets when I logged in next. I don't use them. Once and a while my monkey will come for PvP... But that is just because it pisses some people off to have one dude with a monkey totally trollin his own group.

DenverRalphy

Robotukas wrote: »

I don't any reason why they can't give this dog to players who have Imperial Edition. Just I think is not nice to separate players in two groups: Steam and Zenimax

Are you under the impression that there's going to be some type of stigma between Steam vs Everybody Else players?

Nox_Aeterna

Malthorne wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What content are you being locked out of? It's a friggin vanity item. By the very definition of the term, anybody getting riled up over it are doing nothing more than acting in a Vain manner.

Honestly , i dont care how relevant it seems to you at all.

It IS content of this game that we are being locked out of.

Maybe it will take them giving dragons to wake up to the fact , but hey , some people dont wake up till they get hit really hard on the head.

2nd Era = no dragons
You guys sound like a bunch of tin foil hat politico's. Today a free dog!! Tomorrow it'll be a whole DLC with a new map & missions. Come on. ZOS is trying to attract new players with a small incentive. ...no big deal.

Yeah ... clearly the idea of figure of speech got right past you.

Anyway , like i said , some will only wake up when they get hit , lets wait then for the punch to the face , that should work.

Wonder if i will even be around to see , that would atleast be funny heh, but then again , the way things are going , not worth paying zen to see.

Phantax

Miflett wrote: »

Once again I say, actions speaks louder than words and that it's how a company treats its consumer base that riles people up, not necessarily the fact that it's a dog.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What these guys said ^^

WebBull

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Malthorne wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

It may not matter to you , to many others it does.

The fact is , we , the current players , are being locked outside content meant only for new players.

This time it is a dog , next time might not be.

It is call that shows being a loyal customer is not what they want , they just want to please new players and make them enter the game.

What content are you being locked out of? It's a friggin vanity item. By the very definition of the term, anybody getting riled up over it are doing nothing more than acting in a Vain manner.

Honestly , i dont care how relevant it seems to you at all.

It IS content of this game that we are being locked out of.

Maybe it will take them giving dragons to wake up to the fact , but hey , some people dont wake up till they get hit really hard on the head.

2nd Era = no dragons
You guys sound like a bunch of tin foil hat politico's. Today a free dog!! Tomorrow it'll be a whole DLC with a new map & missions. Come on. ZOS is trying to attract new players with a small incentive. ...no big deal.

Yeah ... clearly the idea of figure of speech got right past you.

Anyway , like i said , some will only wake up when they get hit , lets wait then for the punch to the face , that should work.

Wonder if i will even be around to see , that would atleast be funny heh, but then again , the way things are going , not worth paying zen to see.

Quitting over a vanity dog......this just keeps getting better and better.

jj69chevub17_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey, everyone. We’ve received many questions about how non-Steam customers can get the in-game ESO Whiterun Wolfhound pet that is currently an exclusive part of the Steam offer. While the grey wolfhound will remain an exclusive through Steam, we will be offering a brown version of the Wolfhound pet (tentatively called the Riften Woflhound) at some point in the future. Stay tuned for more details on how you'll be able to get your hands on one.

For all the QQ'ers why say its not they get it, but that can't. There you go soon enough you'll get a dog too. Can we put this to bed now, PLEASE.

MercyKilling

Miflett wrote: »

reggielee wrote: »

I bet those new subs will rage jealour over my munkeeee and crabs. heh

You can buy both online currently for a grand total of 20 bucks, that's my problem.

Really? The only thing I see on the store page is the Digital Imperial Edition, Digital Standard Edition,upgrade to Imperial Edition and palomino horse.
I took screenshots, just in case you doubt me. Here's the top half:



And here's the bottom half:



So...no. You can't buy them online.

Nox_Aeterna

MercyKilling wrote: »

Miflett wrote: »

reggielee wrote: »

I bet those new subs will rage jealour over my munkeeee and crabs. heh

You can buy both online currently for a grand total of 20 bucks, that's my problem.

Really? The only thing I see on the store page is the Digital Imperial Edition, Digital Standard Edition,upgrade to Imperial Edition and palomino horse.
I took screenshots, just in case you doubt me. Here's the top half:



And here's the bottom half:



So...no. You can't buy them online.

Really? You assume we cant buy them because they are not on the main shop?

Someone go take out the rest of the internet please , seems like it should not be there.

Miflett

MercyKilling wrote: »

Miflett wrote: »

reggielee wrote: »

I bet those new subs will rage jealour over my munkeeee and crabs. heh

You can buy both online currently for a grand total of 20 bucks, that's my problem.

Really? The only thing I see on the store page is the Digital Imperial Edition, Digital Standard Edition,upgrade to Imperial Edition and palomino horse.
I took screenshots, just in case you doubt me. Here's the top half:


And here's the bottom half:

So...no. You can't buy them online.

Not to be advertising, but try looking here.

ErykGrimm

This latest phenomenon is the most pathetic "problem" ever. This is probably the first time I have ever contemplated leaving ESO. Not because I want a VANITY pet, but because I am part of a community of gamers playing a game rated M, that are acting like a bunch of toddlers. If I were a dev, I would embrace these new customers coming in and perm ban all these children. Sometimes a customer is more costly than profitable. What a joke. Really people?