Small things are nothing by themselves yet added together...

Zionysus

Please read fully before responding with hate on me.

When I bought ESO I had such high expectations (perhaps unfairly). I knew it wouldn't be Skyrim online, but I was looking for heavy ES emphasis on the small details that I've grown to really love with these games. From reading the forums it seems many of these items won't be implemented anytime soon or not at all. Honestly, I may not be around to see them, or maybe I'm one of those that needs to go away for a year and come back later.

What we got in ESO that I think represents ES games (not a full list):

Gorgeous land
Full voice acting
Realistic characters, armor etc
Simple UI

What we're missing (again not a full list):

Realistic mouth/talking movements
Realistic underwater
Housing (trophies, storage, etc)
NPCs with daily activities and day/night schedules
Appearance changer
Exploring Cyrodiil without having to watch my back constantly
Thieves/DB guild
pickpocket/ sneaking
(yes I know, it looks like I just want the single player games all over again, and you may be right)

But why can't we have these items in the game. Is it really so bad?

I need to get immersed into my character to play for a long time. I love to escape. I work all day, and I love gaming to be my cheap but awesome vacation. ES games always gave that to me 110%. Sadly, I've outplayed the crud out of them.

Please understand me here: ESO doesn't have to be Skyrim, Oblivion (best game ever created imo), Morrowind. For some, it's fine that it doesn't have housing, and underwater. MMOs try to be big amusement parks that cater to as many as possible. I'm still playing, and hope I'll be around if any of the above items are added.

I'm a altaholic. I'm going really slow. Highest level character is 19. Yep, reeeealy slow.

So what I'm saying is, my disappointment in the game is not the balancing (I'm not PVPing), and not the glitches (those are expected). It's the small things that I miss. I guess the ES title threw me off originally. And that's the heart of my gripe.

It just feels like the game was pushed out too soon without fully implementing the things that make up Elder Scrolls as we know it. Perhaps I've been too spoiled. In hindsight, I'd have paid $100 for Oblivion/Skyrim/Morrowind.

I'm going to keep chugging along as long as I can...

Makkir

As an FYI, that title DOES NOT work on the ladies

Zionysus

Makkir wrote: »

As an FYI, that title DOES NOT work on the ladies

Haha. Interesting take. Guess I got too weepy eyed in my thread. I'll be more manly next time.

rynth

all of those things are nice, but this is an MMO and not a single player game. I'm sure over time those things will be put in game, but there already is a lot of code and game mechanics more then even I can comprehend that go into this game. Baby steps sir Baby steps, I look at my fifteen dollars a month as an ability to play this game. But, also an investment that the game will continue to grow and add new things as they fix issues going on now. I look at this game in the long run, not in the short game.

I'm sure that is why they create a road map not only for us but for themselves that with each new content they add they can fix once its in game because knowing how things will interact with all the different types of computers out there is a daunting task. Once the game feels comfortable they continue to move on along the road map.

zgrssd

Zionysus wrote: »

What we got in ESO that I think represents ES games (not a full list):

Gorgeous land
Full voice acting
Realistic characters, armor etc
Simple UI

What we're missing (again not a full list):

Realistic mouth/talking movements
Realistic underwater
Housing (trophies, storage, etc)
NPCs with daily activities and day/night schedules
Appearance changer
Exploring Cyrodiil without having to watch my back constantly
Thieves/DB guild
pickpocket/ sneaking
(yes I know, it looks like I just want the single player games all over again, and you may be right)

The Bold marked items have been confirmed to be in work.

First peices of the DB/Justice system are alrewady in the constants. They just need to iron that out.

Housing has been confirmed on the roadmap.

Cyrodiil is a "open PvP" zone by design. Wich means: Go in groups, and carry a big weapon if you want to be left in peace. Otherwise you will be left in pieces.

Appearance changer: will propably only come after they implemented a preview for items. It uses similar resources. And the preview is usually the easier part, so it will propably come first.

For the time being thier core goal when adding features is getting the console launch ready. The recent overhaul of the Guild Store (so addons are less nessesary) was one step.
Implementing controler and direct voice support are the other two. Of both there are clear signs on the PTS. I asume they might get out with update 4 or 5.

Aside from the Day Night Activities and the underwear I asume everything on your list will come. At it's due time.

Laura

don't forget when they add dyes you will have this to look forward to



that should make it feel a little more like an elder scrolls game.

someuser

ohhh ohhh, I'm going to be the pink one!!!!

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Zionysus wrote: »

What we're missing (again not a full list):

Realistic mouth/talking movements
Realistic underwater
Housing (trophies, storage, etc)
NPCs with daily activities and day/night schedules
Appearance changer
Exploring Cyrodiil without having to watch my back constantly
Thieves/DB guild
pickpocket/ sneaking
(yes I know, it looks like I just want the single player games all over again, and you may be right)

While lip-syncing is nice when done well I don't think ESO is too bad.

I don't think ZOS intend to implement diving under water, in games that do it well (WOW) I like it, in games that don't do it so well (Rift) it's often more of a pain that a pleasure.

Housing's absence is shocking given the 'franchise' and the large number of players who came to ESO because of the TES series.

NPCs with daily schedules are very much a two-edged sword in off-line games, in on-line ones I just don't see them working ot at all well: I don't know of an MMO which has them, the 8 I play don't to any real extent.

I'm not surprised there's no ability to change a character's appearance, for me it's not a priority, what IS a priority in this respect is cosmetic gear but all we're getting is a dye system which means mostly putting lipstick on a pig because if the gear you HAVE to wear to get the best stats at your level is 'fugly, changing it's colour isn't going to suddenly making gorgeous!

I hate the fact there's loads of PVE content in Cyrodiil that's locked out to those of us who don't want anything to do with PVP.

Thieves/Dark Brotherhood are coming, ZOS haven't said when.

Pickpocket/Stealing comes with the Justice system, though frankly how ZOS can think of implementing this without the two guilds associated with crime in TES games I have no idea.