Shields need more types and dyes!! (Appearance)

semp3rfi

I wont be going into the skill line of shields (even though i think it needs some love). I am hugely underwhelmed with the appearance of shields.

At low levels the shields were respectable, however the higher i levelled, the more it became apparent that i would be stuck with a buckler (small, pissy shield).

There are some shields that aren't bad, but where are the hoplons, tower shields, scutums, kite shields, large viking round shields etc. the viking shield in game is quite small for example.

I propose that shield types and sizes be increased. I am talking about appearance but whose to say certain bonuses couldn't be added, dependant on your shield type.

For example such bonuses could be any of;

Tower shield/scutum
adds armor AND magic resist
Reduces damage taken from ranged projectiles by %
Reduce block cost

Hoplons/viking round shield
increased bash damage and overwhelming bash damage
Reduce single target, melee range damage by %

These are just some ideas.

also i think it is important to be able to dye your shield, which i noticed isn't part of the dye system. Shields are always painted with the emblems and colours of whom they are associated with. Why wouldnt you be able to do so ingame?

Is it just me?

The_Drexill

I agree, shields in general are awful... but honestly all the armor in ESO looks awful. Very half-assed.

semp3rfi

I have at least found an armour combination i like, just no shield to go with it. In the final fighters guild quest some of the npcs had large shields very similar to hoplons. I want that

Enkil

I agree... Game needs some larger, more substantial looking shields...

semp3rfi

Apparently very few do lol

AlexDougherty

I have a couple of larger type shields, I know one is Daedric, and I think the other might be a primal shield. Just need to get the motifs to craft them.

semp3rfi

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I have a couple of larger type shields, I know one is Daedric, and I think the other might be a primal shield. Just need to get the motifs to craft them.

The primal one has the massive skeleton on it right? God that is un ugly, awkward thing lol

jrgray93

I fully support dyes for shields.

Kronosphere

The Breton shield is darn smexy. the rest arent tooooo great tho the dark elf and to some degree redguard one aint too bad. but i still agree there needs to be more and cooler looking

Orchish

I am quite disappointed to hear that shields will not have dyes. Many times during my levelling to VR12 i found many shields that matched (colour) perfectly with my current armour, but also ended up using many that looked completely odd when matched with my armour.

I would very much like to be able to match the colour of my shields with my armour. Say i want to colour my armour black and red, i don't want a blue and gold shield with it.

I really hope ZOS allow us to dye our shields.

traigusb14_ESO2

I think that shields are currently a kind of weapon, so making them dyeable without letting people have purple swords will take more work (have to branch them off).

Orc shield for the win!

jrgray93

Well, if weapons were allowed dyes, I would want it to be VERY reserved. Like a sort of highlight but while still primarily retaining the original color. I just think a hot pink sword or staff is too crazy for me.

AlexDougherty

jrgray93 wrote: »

Well, if weapons were allowed dyes, I would want it to be VERY reserved. Like a sort of highlight but while still primarily retaining the original color.

That would do me.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I think that shields are currently a kind of weapon, so making them dyeable without letting people have purple swords will take more work (have to branch them off).

Orc shield for the win!

I'm surprised if shields can't be dyed. I loaded the PTS last night and will check it out this evening. Regardless, the current inventory UI lists shields under armor. Likewise I would think weapons should have dye too as they currently match the current level and motif color schemes with primary, secondary, and tertiary color highlights.

semp3rfi

Im not so fussed about weapon dyes. Perhaps they could have a few metallic dyes. But shields should have the whole 9 yards

pinstripesc

There are a number of larger shields, not bucklerish -

High Elf
Ancient Elf
Daedric
Imperial
Breton
Orc
Barbaric

This is at veteran level (or as early as 35 up, I think), a lot of them start out smaller. These don't include set shields. The Lord's Shield is biggish.

There were some mods for things like tower shields in Skyrim, they tended to cause clipping on your character when he ran, jumped, etc. Devs don't seem to like to add things that cause clipping. I've also never seen a tower shield in traditional TES, but I haven't played all of them either.

Paul Sage mentioned in a recent interview that while they won't be launching with dyes for shields and weapons, there is a possibility they will add it later, they'll 'see how it goes' or something.

traigusb14_ESO2

andre.roques.3b14_ESO wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I think that shields are currently a kind of weapon, so making them dyeable without letting people have purple swords will take more work (have to branch them off).

Orc shield for the win!

I'm surprised if shields can't be dyed. I loaded the PTS last night and will check it out this evening. Regardless, the current inventory UI lists shields under armor. Likewise I would think weapons should have dye too as they currently match the current level and motif color schemes with primary, secondary, and tertiary color highlights.

In that interview Paul S seemed to equate shields with weapon dying. He was very iffy on weapon dying... and I am too because of giant pink wangs. yeah my VR12 2H hammer is blue and gold like my armor... which I actually don't like.. I would like it more weapon colored.

I have no idea how it is coded, or what the UI considers them (a shield with training ups S+B weapon skill right? Destro staves use weapon crit...) or if UI is really the last vote on it in the code...it is all messy. Code wise I would think all hand items are weapons because DW uses offhand too and are weapons. Easier to make shield a weapon as a base class object than to have 2 different special cases for offhand... I think anyway.

I definitely want to dye my shield, or I'll look kinda dumb. I'll pass on weapons because I don't trust people to behave like adults.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO

I loaded the PTS, and as of now, the dye only is available for the seven worn armor slots. The system is really nice, but not including the weapons and shield are going to look funky.

semp3rfi

Heres hoping they add shields to dye at least

rynth

I was at work today and thought of some stuff they could add for shields and weapons, what do you all think?

1. As has been stated before shield dyes, also would be neat to be able to put some sort of design on the front of the shield also something like guild tabards so that along with your tabard those that use shields could have them matching.

3. Dyes for your bow/quiver mostly for the quiver so it would match your armor

3. be able to have more endepth crafting for your weapons and armor. maybe several different choices for racial looks on weapons and armor. I also would think it'd be cool if we would be able to adjust the length of the blade and pommel, seems like a lot of the single handed swords have pommels larger then the blade and the great sword pommels look like two or three people could hold it at once using both hands
4. also for armor and weapons be able to add our own coloring to the guard and pommel and change the metal look of the blade.

Some of these things could say be unlocked by master crafters or something especially being able to craft several different looks for racial weapons and armors.

Kalann_Pander

Dyes for weapons and shields.

tengri

Shield dyes: yes, of course.
And for this purpose here I mean quiver (NOT bow) = shield.
Extremely disappointed that this was not included already in the first place.

More types... not really.
We have enough variants as of now.
Maybe some time waaaaaay down but wasting resources on making more here should not be a priority.

ipong926

I got a idea
How about new system again?
You can keep making racial items and also you can have some choices for each part & make it to become a unique weapon, shield, armor looking. (custom look)
& if you want a awesome part, go to unlock it like dye color etc.

Phantax

Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2 both had some awesome looking shields. Something like those here in ESO would be great !

rynth

ipong926 wrote: »

I got a idea
How about new system again?
You can keep making racial items and also you can have some choices for each part & make it to become a unique weapon, shield, armor looking. (custom look)
& if you want a awesome part, go to unlock it like dye color etc.

I like this idea about the unlocking.....though I'd think it would be cooler to add the unlocking according to mastering a craft. I think that there should be a lot more unique benefits for individuals that master their craft i.e. lvl 50 all skills unlocked or skill slots used up and all traits learned. (besides the ability to craft in the wilderness areas that you find).

Plus I'd really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really like to make the dang hand grip for the swords shorter for both single and great swords such an eye sore for myself.