Hacks are destroying this game!

Attorneyatlawl

Auric_ESO wrote: »

Baphomet wrote: »

It's been verified that it is possible to write macros for nightblades which allows them to deal 3000ish damage in about a second - and it's being used in PvP.

So is the problem hacks or people that use them? Its sad really. Back in the daoc days people got hammered by the community for using radar. Now its the company getting hammered for allowing the hacks to exist. Not sure how that changed.

I could go on a long diatribe about politics and "everyone's a winner" self-entitlement generation upbringings, and the "it's never my fault, it's always me that's the awesome person" attitude in society and nanny states... but I doubt it'd do any good here. In short, it's still the players' fault for using these cheats.

thorntk421

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Auric_ESO wrote: »

Baphomet wrote: »

It's been verified that it is possible to write macros for nightblades which allows them to deal 3000ish damage in about a second - and it's being used in PvP.

So is the problem hacks or people that use them? Its sad really. Back in the daoc days people got hammered by the community for using radar. Now its the company getting hammered for allowing the hacks to exist. Not sure how that changed.

I could go on a long diatribe about politics and "everyone's a winner" self-entitlement generation upbringings, and the "it's never my fault, it's always me that's the awesome person" attitude in society and nanny states... but I doubt it'd do any good here. In short, it's still the players' fault for using these cheats.

THIS..The self-entitlement of people is totally crazy out of control. To be short. I interview and hire a lot of people. It's is just mind blowing the attitudes of (mostly younger) people today! It's never my fault, I'm entitled to the best of everything just because I show up, You mean I have to do actual work to get paid and on and on. It's amazing..

rusila22

People always whining about hack,teleport or just because they died so easily! Well 1st thing are sure you are playing a good spec in pvp, are you alone or in a group....
If you see a hacker just post a screenshot it would be really helpfull for zeni tto ban cheaters.

floorconub17_ESO

Well, regarding hacks (or accused of using hacks) what is going on is it seems that the more hacks are used by players it seems to screw up the game for non-hackers. I'm sure that the coding of the game just cant digest what is going on so everyone gets short circuited. I for one am tired of seeing EP (yes you are the ONLY server I've seen using said hacks) day after day playing the game with cheats/hacks/exploits, call it what you will but you are cheating on a video game. Are you parents proud of you?

Grow up. Stop cheating.

Orchish

The speed bug is rampant. As for this stealth hack as you call it? No, i just use detection potions which allow me to see anyone nearby without a big glowing ball around me.

Daethz

More worried about destruction staff being rigged than I am about hackers.
I don't even think hacking could help a dualwielder compete.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

floorconub17_ESO wrote: »

Well, regarding hacks (or accused of using hacks) what is going on is it seems that the more hacks are used by players it seems to screw up the game for non-hackers. I'm sure that the coding of the game just cant digest what is going on so everyone gets short circuited. I for one am tired of seeing EP (yes you are the ONLY server I've seen using said hacks) day after day playing the game with cheats/hacks/exploits, call it what you will but you are cheating on a video game. Are you parents proud of you?

Grow up. Stop cheating.

Need to stop pointing at separate alliances. Your own alliance has its hackers and bug explointers, to whatever degree they use them in. AD emp on EU wabba is currently, and has admitted to, using the "bug" to make skills do way more damage than intended.

You can check it in the alliance war forum.

TheBull

jlajr1974ub17_ESO wrote: »

Just a FYI for all those who think there are not any hacks... took this off one of their sites.. bugging out landmasses.. hmm I hate it when Im in battle and the game crashes only to log back in dead..and wow kill bots.. enuf said..

TESO Cheats - Find out all the major dupes going on in the game and how you can access them.
TESO Exploits - Learn how to loot npcs multiple times or how to instant kill other players by bugging out the land masses.
TESO Bots - Have a program play the game for you, which means it will hunt, kill, loot, sell, and more. It depends on the setup you create.
TESO Hacks - Have alerts for hard to find mobs, use a radar with a greater range than the game gives players, and more hacks.
TESO Leveling Guides - Learn how players are leveling in the game quicker than you, also learn all the best ways to start farming gold easily.

Make sure to click on all the links. There maybe some good hacks in'em.

Jarnhand

Yes, exploits and hacks are ruining the fun, at least for me. Last few days of Cyrodiil exploits/hacks combined with Zenimax not fixing buged NB skills, has lead to me playing less, and may end up with just give up, if they do not start some serious fixing in this game!

Only 2 campaigns alive, the rest are low pop emperor farms. Most guilds are dead. Sad but not strange, when looking on how the game is run. We are paying for a game that has beta quality, plain and simple.

Yesterday I encountered a new exploit in Cyrodiil Bloodthorn, happened 2 times with the same guy, a DK. He were able to use some exploit leading to people using skills on him, and they did not fire. He as blocking with his staff, but that was not the thing, simply put the skill animations showed, but nothing hit him. Very weird. No blocking message, no nothing, combat log showed nothing.

He was reported, but guess nothing will happen, as usually. I have made reports since beta, and never ever in this game have I been contacted by a CSR ever, and there is no list anywhere of your tickets. Simply put; horrible customer service!

steveb16_ESO46

Auric_ESO wrote: »

Baphomet wrote: »

It's been verified that it is possible to write macros for nightblades which allows them to deal 3000ish damage in about a second - and it's being used in PvP.

So is the problem hacks or people that use them? Its sad really. Back in the daoc days people got hammered by the community for using radar. Now its the company getting hammered for allowing the hacks to exist. Not sure how that changed.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's something to do with the company being the people doing the programming and therefore being the only people who can actually do anything practical to stop it.

Zubba

Jarnhand wrote: »

Yes, exploits and hacks are ruining the fun, at least for me. Last few days of Cyrodiil exploits/hacks combined with Zenimax not fixing buged NB skills, has lead to me playing less, and may end up with just give up, if they do not start some serious fixing in this game!

Only 2 campaigns alive, the rest are low pop emperor farms. Most guilds are dead. Sad but not strange, when looking on how the game is run. We are paying for a game that has beta quality, plain and simple.

Yesterday I encountered a new exploit in Cyrodiil Bloodthorn, happened 2 times with the same guy, a DK. He were able to use some exploit leading to people using skills on him, and they did not fire. He as blocking with his staff, but that was not the thing, simply put the skill animations showed, but nothing hit him. Very weird. No blocking message, no nothing, combat log showed nothing.

He was reported, but guess nothing will happen, as usually. I have made reports since beta, and never ever in this game have I been contacted by a CSR ever, and there is no list anywhere of your tickets. Simply put; horrible customer service!

Sounds more like a lag spike to me.

Jarnhand

Zubba wrote: »

Jarnhand wrote: »

Yes, exploits and hacks are ruining the fun, at least for me. Last few days of Cyrodiil exploits/hacks combined with Zenimax not fixing buged NB skills, has lead to me playing less, and may end up with just give up, if they do not start some serious fixing in this game!

Only 2 campaigns alive, the rest are low pop emperor farms. Most guilds are dead. Sad but not strange, when looking on how the game is run. We are paying for a game that has beta quality, plain and simple.

Yesterday I encountered a new exploit in Cyrodiil Bloodthorn, happened 2 times with the same guy, a DK. He were able to use some exploit leading to people using skills on him, and they did not fire. He as blocking with his staff, but that was not the thing, simply put the skill animations showed, but nothing hit him. Very weird. No blocking message, no nothing, combat log showed nothing.

He was reported, but guess nothing will happen, as usually. I have made reports since beta, and never ever in this game have I been contacted by a CSR ever, and there is no list anywhere of your tickets. Simply put; horrible customer service!

Sounds more like a lag spike to me.

Not likley, only happened when attacking that character, both times, noone else. It looked like he provoked it due to an exploit or hack. Reminds me of the critter bug a couple patches back.

He also charged into groups of enemies, that normally would have been total suicide to run into. It was like he knew he would survive for long, and was exploiting a bug/hack, and was showing off/having a good time (kid). Also released right away both times, to make it harder/more hazzle to report him.

DanteVFenris

Oh someone owned me, they most have hacked sense I'm vr12 and so good. That's the mentality. Sorry just some people spend that much time into making the best character.

If someone was hacking you'd see 100k damage or things ridiculous like that

seneferab16_ESO

DanteVFenris wrote: »

If someone was hacking you'd see 100k damage or things ridiculous like that

If someone was hacking and wanted to get banned for it, yes.

Nah, the people who use and abuse hacks in MMOs are often smarter than that, and will use all kinds of speed/teleport/buff/stat/damage/invulnerability hacks but only to give them an edge; they avoid being obvious.

See, they don't care about winning, they care about cheating and getting away with it.

Source: BF and his dodgy forum hobby.

Don't go googling around, clicking links here and there trying to find them. The real ones are well hidden, and you'll most likely end up on bait ones with links made of evil.

Animus0724

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

Armitas

DanteVFenris wrote: »

Oh someone owned me, they most have hacked sense I'm vr12 and so good. That's the mentality. Sorry just some people spend that much time into making the best character.

If someone was hacking you'd see 100k damage or things ridiculous like that

I think you need to do some research on this before making glib and evidently wrong statements like that. This would be a good place to start.

Adelwulf

Animus0724 wrote: »

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

I'm a VR-12 dragon knight and get one shotted by sorc's all the time. Yet I can fight any other class and it be pretty balanced, I win or they win.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

Animus0724 wrote: »

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

I'm a VR-12 dragon knight and get one shotted by sorc's all the time. Yet I can fight any other class and it be pretty balanced, I win or they win.

No you dont.

Adelwulf

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

Animus0724 wrote: »

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

I'm a VR-12 dragon knight and get one shotted by sorc's all the time. Yet I can fight any other class and it be pretty balanced, I win or they win.

No you dont.

I did 3 times last night

demonlkojipub19_ESO

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

Animus0724 wrote: »

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

I'm a VR-12 dragon knight and get one shotted by sorc's all the time. Yet I can fight any other class and it be pretty balanced, I win or they win.

No you dont.

I did 3 times last night

not to 1 hit, unless they were cheating.

Junipus

As a templar, I can take on sorcs and win with ease.

How? I'm not going to give away secrets since any enemy who knows me in Cyrodiil can learn to counter if I did.

There are bugs. There are cheats. There are exploits. Then there is education and experience.

I've played against many people who are using no bugs or cheats or exploits and who are insanely good and can solo groups on their own. They also go down to those same groups so it's all a matter of learning how to counter.

I've never popped a stealth detect potion in my life, but experience has taught me the likely spots around the map that people will hide at or use for travelling and so I go looking in those spots for any players. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that someone on horseback ran towards them - it's a good chance they either had a potion they popped earlier or knew from experience that players were normally in that spot. The area just south of Glademist between it and the farm is a very popular spot for ganking. Every time I go past it I stealth and run around to see if I can catch anyone, and if it's busy then 80% of the time I do, simply because of experience.

Speed bugs are entirely accidental. People do exploit it by not suiciding to remove it, just look on the Alliance forum at all the threads complaining about such things, but it doesn't mean everyone who has it has automatically cheated and should be banned.

The damage "exploit", unless ZOS ACTUALLY fixed it in previous patches it should still be possible to use the bug to get some insane buffs to your character and be practically unkillable.

As for damage dealt, there are some builds which are designed for maximum damage output with the appropriate armour sets and improvements when mixed with abilities. I've tried it myself with templar abilities that crit and can normally drop a V12 DK to 20% health before they've gotten their first attack off if I'm coming from stealth. This means I can deal anything upwards of 2000HP of damage in under 5 seconds. I can easily imagine builds where crits are stacked so you die before you can do anything about it.

Just remember, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's wrong.

Adelwulf

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

kb.lang_ESO wrote: »

Animus0724 wrote: »

I play a nightblade and as a night blade I am indeed squishy, but I am not one shot squishy. How do I know? because even sorcs with crystals shards take at least 4 hits to kill me. Yet today I have been 1 shotted twice. In the death recap I see one skill doing 2.6k damage on me...this is *** indeed

I'm a VR-12 dragon knight and get one shotted by sorc's all the time. Yet I can fight any other class and it be pretty balanced, I win or they win.

No you dont.

I did 3 times last night

not to 1 hit, unless they were cheating.

I will agree with you I was just frustrated, I was hit by a shard and dead half a second later. After reading some other posts maybe the person killing me just had a good build that did a lot of crit damage.

Attorneyatlawl

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

As a templar, I can take on sorcs and win with ease.

How? I'm not going to give away secrets since any enemy who knows me in Cyrodiil can learn to counter if I did.

There are bugs. There are cheats. There are exploits. Then there is education and experience.

I've played against many people who are using no bugs or cheats or exploits and who are insanely good and can solo groups on their own. They also go down to those same groups so it's all a matter of learning how to counter.

I've never popped a stealth detect potion in my life, but experience has taught me the likely spots around the map that people will hide at or use for travelling and so I go looking in those spots for any players. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that someone on horseback ran towards them - it's a good chance they either had a potion they popped earlier or knew from experience that players were normally in that spot. The area just south of Glademist between it and the farm is a very popular spot for ganking. Every time I go past it I stealth and run around to see if I can catch anyone, and if it's busy then 80% of the time I do, simply because of experience.

Speed bugs are entirely accidental. People do exploit it by not suiciding to remove it, just look on the Alliance forum at all the threads complaining about such things, but it doesn't mean everyone who has it has automatically cheated and should be banned.

The damage "exploit", unless ZOS ACTUALLY fixed it in previous patches it should still be possible to use the bug to get some insane buffs to your character and be practically unkillable.

As for damage dealt, there are some builds which are designed for maximum damage output with the appropriate armour sets and improvements when mixed with abilities. I've tried it myself with templar abilities that crit and can normally drop a V12 DK to 20% health before they've gotten their first attack off if I'm coming from stealth. This means I can deal anything upwards of 2000HP of damage in under 5 seconds. I can easily imagine builds where crits are stacked so you die before you can do anything about it.

Just remember, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's wrong.

Quoted for awesome.

tordr86b16_ESO

what hacks? are you crying over people running faster than you?

retreating maneuver is your friend.

http://esohead.com/skills/46505-retreating-maneuver

Fshober28b14_ESO

jlajr1974ub17_ESO wrote: »

More than likely if you have PvPed in last few weeks you have seen hacks and didnt know it.. ever been in stealth and someone from a far range comes runnin straight at you and attacks? the stealth hack lets you see all toons around you stealth or not.. invisible or not.. there are way to many to list here.. do a lil research and read up on them.. its crazy

Yeah i have been starting to see more of this one as i live in Cyrodiil as my end-game, and I come across this on a daily basis at this point. I was wondering how the hell a player from really far away... im talking 50-60 m away... can possibly be coming at me with intent like they see me from so far away...even already shooting out light attacks even though they are no where in range to hit me yet.

Armitas

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

what hacks? are you crying over people running faster than you?

retreating maneuver is your friend.

http://esohead.com/skills/46505-retreating-maneuver

Reading is also your friend.

wraithguknub18_ESO

Yes the hacks have ruined the pvp game for me.
So lets see. Unlimited Magicaka, Unlimited Stamina, being able to spam 4 crystal frags in 1 second, Saw a sorc non-stop teleporting around the map for 20 min straight. Now the latest a nightblade spamming talons.

Well enough is enough for me. You guys enjoy the game.

Dontezz

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

what hacks? are you crying over people running faster than you?

retreating maneuver is your friend.

http://esohead.com/skills/46505-retreating-maneuver

No.. no we are not.. its about kill/farm bots, unlimited dodging, 200% speed increase, glitching other players, highlighting all players in huge radius around you stealth or not, and teleporting to predetermined locations in every zone.. like keeps... plus alot more. Maybe you should have read up on the posts before you commented..

Katkon

I've not experienced a single hack - at least none that I've been able to spot. I have been killed by massive hits - like 2k hp hits - but have just assumed other players have built better chars. For me PvP is great.

JackDaniell

wraithguknub18_ESO wrote: »

Yes the hacks have ruined the pvp game for me.
So lets see. Unlimited Magicaka, Unlimited Stamina, being able to spam 4 crystal frags in 1 second, Saw a sorc non-stop teleporting around the map for 20 min straight. Now the latest a nightblade spamming talons.

Well enough is enough for me. You guys enjoy the game.

Well, not to call you a liar. But if this particular individual was teleporting for 20 mins straight.. how did you keep up?

The only feasible forum answer is... YOU WERE HACKING TO!!!
OMG ROFL HAXORS!@# (a joke )