Vampire, food to go.....

nawlinzbilly

How about make a bottled blood that can be taken with the vampire. Every 30 minute feed is crazy, especially if no humanoids are around. To level it out, make it sort of expensive, a convenience will cost. Maybe limit the amount a player can have. Just an idea, please feel free to add to the idea, I am sure the flames will come, so let 'er rip!

Liquid_Time

I have never fed even once since I became vamp. Is there truly even a benefit to keeping it at stage 1-3?

Also, to answer your question. Yes this would be interesting to have available. I mean feed when you can and pop this potion when you cannot.

Gilvoth

this would definately be something to add to the dark brotherhood skill line or atleast a "bag of blood" seller or a "bottled blood" seller within the dark brotherhood sanctuary.

RedMiniStapler

Time to add "true blood" in eso. "it taste like real blood!"

Hypertionb14_ESO

RedMiniStapler wrote: »

Time to add "true blood" in eso. "it taste like real blood!"

I cant believe its not blood!

xherics

A good idea!
I use stage 3 and 4 only, not the first two.

DeLindsay

Although I never revert back to any previous stages on my Vampires this is a good idea. It's not like it's lore breaking either since there are bottles, vials, bowls, etc of blood all over Vampire lairs in previous TES games.

Aureli

It's not too much trouble being at stage 4 most of the time, but there are the occasional tough fights with pyromancers. Otherwise I don't bother with feeding unless the opportunity presents itself to me.

DeLindsay

Aureli wrote: »

It's not too much trouble being at stage 4 most of the time, but there are the occasional tough fights with pyromancers. Otherwise I don't bother with feeding unless the opportunity presents itself to me.

1 Glyph (Epic or Legendary) of Flame resist on a single jewelry item, or being Dunmer with 3/3 Resist Flame (equivilent to an Epic Glyph) solves that problem. To be honest with that Glyph I take WAY more damage from Frost NPC's than Fire ones even at stage 4, and that's with running builds that are always resist overcharged.

fosley_ESO

I think the whole stage thing is a little weird. If you maintain stage 1 to look prettier, then decide to do something that would benefit from stage 4 cost reductions, you have to just sit around for a couple hours until you can do it.

I also never understood the whole concept of starving yourself to become stronger. Generally, when I haven't eaten for a while, I get weaker, and most vampire games put it this way. It also would make a lot more sense given the way this game works in general.

If you just run around farming mats or crafting, your character gets weaker, and you have to go feed before doing your dungeon. Ideally, feeding while at stage 1 would bottle the blood or something, with some kind of cap (2 or 3 I would think) to keep the mechanic interesting, while allowing time to get through a dungeon without making the group wait for you to go eat. With the correct perk, stage 2 would be the same strength as stage 1, so you would just need to drink right before hitting stage 3 every half hour or so.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

I always keep my stage at 1 or 2 to keep me health regen effective (and my good looks).

As a NB my main benefit of vampirism is the stealth bonus and the mist. I never rely on having to spend mana on vamp abilities so the higher stages only means a disadvantage for me.

That being said I don't like the blood potion idea and I didn't like it in skyrim. A fully trianed vamp keep max regen for 1.5 hours and that should be good enough.

Personally I would have preferred that stage 4 caused guard agro but opened up new powers. Would have made vampires more interesting.

Pele

I do not feed because I like the reduced cost to my vamp skills at stage 4, and I am lazy. But I think this is a good idea.

Edit because derp.

TehMagnus

True blood? Call the Japanese

fosley_ESO

DeLindsay wrote: »

To be honest with that Glyph I take WAY more damage from Frost NPC's than Fire ones even at stage 4, and that's with running builds that are always resist overcharged.

As a vampire, a soft-capped magic resistance will put frost resist higher than hard-capped fire resist, so if the fire npcs are doing less damage than frost, it's because they would be doing even less damage compared to frost on a non-vamp player. And your stage has nothing to do with your fire resistance.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

That being said I don't like the blood potion idea and I didn't like it in skyrim. A fully trianed vamp keep max regen for 1.5 hours and that should be good enough.

Personally I would have preferred that stage 4 caused guard agro but opened up new powers. Would have made vampires more interesting.

The problem is that stage 4 is where most people want to be (that I've seen). Health regen is meh compared to cheaper vampire powers for most builds.

So you have to wait up to 3 hours to hit dungeon mode, or run around looking ugly. In the older ES games, you could just hit "wait" until you were whatever stage you wanted, but since this is all real time, it makes it clunky.

Plus, it completely eliminates anything interesting about the feeding mechanic. You just do nothing and you're in the best stage for anything but looks.

Gilvoth

fosley_ESO wrote: »

I think the whole stage thing is a little weird. If you maintain stage 1 to look prettier, then decide to do something that would benefit from stage 4 cost reductions, you have to just sit around for a couple hours until you can do it.

I also never understood the whole concept of starving yourself to become stronger. Generally, when I haven't eaten for a while, I get weaker, and most vampire games put it this way. It also would make a lot more sense given the way this game works in general.

If you just run around farming mats or crafting, your character gets weaker, and you have to go feed before doing your dungeon. Ideally, feeding while at stage 1 would bottle the blood or something, with some kind of cap (2 or 3 I would think) to keep the mechanic interesting, while allowing time to get through a dungeon without making the group wait for you to go eat. With the correct perk, stage 2 would be the same strength as stage 1, so you would just need to drink right before hitting stage 3 every half hour or so.

im not so sure about this theory your refering to as being complete.
would you rather fight an army of starving men who havent eaten in 2 days or an army of men who just ate a full course meal? i would think those starving men would freak out and be a horrible group of realy ugly mean men to fight and probably kill you alot worse then the men who just ate.
i once played a vampire game that had a function of spazz built into the code that kicked in where at a certain point of Not feeding that you would loose control of your character for about 3 minutes as you would watch your vampire character race at extreme speeds and feed untill he was full! you would witness your character go to extremes including breaking into peoples homes, and basicly feed on anyone he could find untill he was fed to maximum, at which point you would again gain control of your character.

Tankqull

Liquid_Time wrote: »

I have never fed even once since I became vamp. Is there truly even a benefit to keeping it at stage 1-3?

yes in a fire intensive PvE dungeon beside that i´ve never come acros any reason to feed my vamp...

Aureli

fosley_ESO wrote: »

I think the whole stage thing is a little weird. If you maintain stage 1 to look prettier, then decide to do something that would benefit from stage 4 cost reductions, you have to just sit around for a couple hours until you can do it.

I also never understood the whole concept of starving yourself to become stronger. Generally, when I haven't eaten for a while, I get weaker, and most vampire games put it this way. It also would make a lot more sense given the way this game works in general.

This has long been a point of contention for TES fans. Logically (as much as logic can be used in regards to a fantasy, fictional setting), a vampire should become more powerful the older it gets, and gain in strength after feeding, permitting it to appear more human, and lose some of it's weakness to sunlight and other vampire banes. TES does the opposite from practically everything else involving vampires.

I suppose we can be grateful that TES vamps don't sparkle.

fosley_ESO

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

would you rather fight an army of starving men who havent eaten in 2 days or an army of men who just ate a full course meal?

The well-fed army will have far more strength than the starved army. I'm not talking about the self-restraint to not take food right in your face, I'm talking about the ability to do well in a fight. And really, the stage 4 vampirism would be more like men who haven't eaten for a couple weeks, making the problem much worse.

Liquid_Time wrote: »

I have never fed even once since I became vamp. Is there truly even a benefit to keeping it at stage 1-3?

Stage 2-4 (3-4 with the perk) have increasingly reduced health regeneration. Keeping at stage 1 (1-2 with the perk) allows full health regeneration. And you look less monstrous at lower stages, which could be good or bad depending on your preferences.

tankqullb16_ESO wrote: »

yes in a fire intensive PvE dungeon beside that i´ve never come acros any reason to feed my vamp...

Every vampire takes 50% extra fire damage, regardless of the current stage of vampirism.

nawlinzbilly

What say you guys?

AdamBourke

This thread made me hungry...