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Why not roll back to 1.2.2?

Pmarsico9
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At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............
  • Pyranoid
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    I absolutely agree. Please give us back 1.2.2 and just take more time to fix all those issues which occured with 1.2.3 -1.2.x
    The game is unplayable...
  • Pmarsico9
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    It really is unplayable beyond just grinding quests. Cyrodiil PVP lag is stupid. I've tried doing 3 Veteran dungeons as a tank and in every single one of them, the framerates would drop to 3 FPS after about 10 minutes.

    So I stopped even attempting to do that.

    The worst part is, I called ZOS and said "I just want a credit for the past week" and they told me I can't get it because the issue is "isolated."

    Meanwhile, the guy is on the phone with me telling me he's a gamer and loves ESO, too, however, he hasn't been able to play since 1.2.4.........

    I mean really?????
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............
    As long as they rollback all characters too.
  • Pyranoid
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............
    As long as they rollback all characters too.

    would be hard for me, cause my main would be deletet then... but I would sacrifice that for a playable ESO... really!
  • Anastasia
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............


    But, but, but that would be absolutely unacceptable - then all those fluffy sweet lil trouble-making mobbies in V+ 1- 10 would be over powered again. Unacceptable Pmarsico9. Even though it might actually take care of many of the lag issues temporarily while the dev team works on whats wrong in the interim with lag - primarily in Cyr. but also elsewhere...it just wouldn't be fair for Vet + 1- 10 were not viably solo-able. . :|

    Edited by Anastasia on July 7, 2014 5:31PM
  • Pyranoid
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    Anastasia wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............


    But, but, but that would be absolutely unacceptable - then all those fluffy sweet lil trouble-making mobbies in V+ 1- 10 would be over powered again. Unacceptable Pmarsico9. Even though it might actually take care of many of the lag issues temporarily while the dev team works on whats wrong in the interim with lag - primarily in Cyl but also elsewhere...it just wouldn't be fair for Vet + 1- 10 were not viably solo-able. . :|
    so... what do i have of a fair game i can't play? I can tell myself: if the game was playable, at least it would be fair... lvl 20 mobs are overpowered when your character freezes and you can't move
    Edited by Pyranoid on July 7, 2014 5:31PM
  • Anastasia
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    Pyranoid wrote: »
    Anastasia wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............


    But, but, but that would be absolutely unacceptable - then all those fluffy sweet lil trouble-making mobbies in V+ 1- 10 would be over powered again. Unacceptable Pmarsico9. Even though it might actually take care of many of the lag issues temporarily while the dev team works on whats wrong in the interim with lag - primarily in Cyl but also elsewhere...it just wouldn't be fair for Vet + 1- 10 were not viably solo-able. . :|
    so... what do i have of a fair game i can't play? I can tell myself: if the game was playable, at least it would be fair... lvl 20 mobs are overpowered when your character freezes and you can't move


    Completely understand how frustrating it is - I was being sarcastic. Support you 100%.

  • liquid_wolf
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    This just made me realize that the worst part about the game is the forums.

    I've spent three days playing and enjoying every bit of that time.
    I come back to the forums, and can feel how much everyone's whining, anger, and vitriol completely ruins the experience.

    Like a pit of tar... once you step into it you'll have a tough time getting it to let go.
  • Pyranoid
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    Anastasia wrote: »
    Pyranoid wrote: »
    Anastasia wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............


    But, but, but that would be absolutely unacceptable - then all those fluffy sweet lil trouble-making mobbies in V+ 1- 10 would be over powered again. Unacceptable Pmarsico9. Even though it might actually take care of many of the lag issues temporarily while the dev team works on whats wrong in the interim with lag - primarily in Cyl but also elsewhere...it just wouldn't be fair for Vet + 1- 10 were not viably solo-able. . :|
    so... what do i have of a fair game i can't play? I can tell myself: if the game was playable, at least it would be fair... lvl 20 mobs are overpowered when your character freezes and you can't move


    Completely understand how frustrating it is - I was being sarcastic. Support you 100%.
    sorry, didn't get your Sarcasm... my fault
  • Pmarsico9
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    This just made me realize that the worst part about the game is the forums.

    I've spent three days playing and enjoying every bit of that time.
    I come back to the forums, and can feel how much everyone's whining, anger, and vitriol completely ruins the experience.

    Like a pit of tar... once you step into it you'll have a tough time getting it to let go.

    I wouldn't be posting on these forums if I could log in and play the game. I have to log out once every 2 hours and delete my shader.cooked file just to not have 2 FPS doing solo Craglorn grinding.................

    Also,

    These are the customer support forums.........who comes into them and whines about "the cesspool" that is the forums?
    Edited by Pmarsico9 on July 7, 2014 5:52PM
  • SirAndy
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    These are the customer support forums.........who comes into them and whines about "the cesspool" that is the forums?
    Customers?
  • LrdRahvin
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............

    The reason they haven't done a client rollback...is...wait for it...

    stupidity
    Edited by LrdRahvin on July 7, 2014 7:40PM
  • Pmarsico9
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    Moderator Edit: Removed quote from moderated post.
    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............

    The reason they have done a client rollback...is...wait for it...

    stupidity

    OK well you obviously don't understand that the game is completely UNPLAYABLE for a portion of the playerbase right now.

    ZOS isn't offering any credit or recompense to people paying monthly for this game THAT THEY CANNOT PLAY.

    So since they can't find out what the cause is and fix it, this was a suggestion.

    Not having your FPS go single digits isn't a feature. It's what makes the game playable.

    Stupidity is rolling out "graphical improvements" while allowing a major bug to happen that was going to wipe out a portion of your playerbase's ability to play the game at all.................

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_SandraF on July 7, 2014 10:20PM
  • LrdRahvin
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    These are the customer support forums.........who comes into them and whines about "the cesspool" that is the forums?

    This isn't a customer support topic.
    At best it is a feature request, but more likely a general topic.
    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............

    The reason they have done a client rollback...is...wait for it...

    stupidity

    OK well you obviously don't understand that the game is completely UNPLAYABLE for a portion of the playerbase right now.

    ZOS isn't offering any credit or recompense to people paying monthly for this game THAT THEY CANNOT PLAY.

    So since they can't find out what the cause is and fix it, this was a suggestion.

    Not having your FPS go single digits isn't a feature. It's what makes the game playable.

    Stupidity is rolling out "graphical improvements" while allowing a major bug to happen that was going to wipe out a portion of your playerbase's ability to play the game at all.................

    Don't look now but my post said the reason they're not doing a client rollback is stupidity...not defending ZOS...

    Translation: calling ZOS stupid in a way that won't get a ban...not that I care anymore

    Moderator Edit: Edited quote from moderated post.
    Edited by ZOS_SandraF on July 7, 2014 10:21PM
  • SirAndy
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    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    my post said the reason they're not doing a client rollback is stupidity...
    That would only be true if you fixed your typo ...
  • LrdRahvin
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    my post said the reason they're not doing a client rollback is stupidity...
    That would only be true if you fixed your typo ...

    thanks and corrected
  • bluesodafizz
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    OMG lol, NO! Please don't roll back my character, I just finished my last alliance.
  • Grim13
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    OMG lol, NO! Please don't roll back my character, I just finished my last alliance.

    Rolling back a patch is NOT the same as rolling back your character.
  • bluesodafizz
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    OMG lol, NO! Please don't roll back my character, I just finished my last alliance.

    Rolling back a patch is NOT the same as rolling back your character.

    Correct, but that is not what I was referencing. @fromtesonlineb16_ESO was saying that if there is a rollback, it should include character roll backs. Should have quoted him/her, my bad.
  • ZOS_TristanK
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    Hi, folks. First, we wanted to let you know that we've moved this thread to the general discussion forum so that other players can discuss the ideas mentioned.

    We'd also like to remind everyone to please keep their conversations civil, constructive, and on-topic. We do require that all poster stay in line with our forum Code of Conduct. Thank you.
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  • Pmarsico9
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    Hi, folks. First, we wanted to let you know that we've moved this thread to the general discussion forum so that other players can discuss the ideas mentioned.

    We'd also like to remind everyone to please keep their conversations civil, constructive, and on-topic. We do require that all poster stay in line with our forum Code of Conduct. Thank you.

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How does this merit discussion? Take a break from forcing out buggy content and fix the game so that those of us who cannot right now can begin to enjoy this game again.
  • Soothy
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If there's a million subscriptions at a minimum, 1000 subscriptions (at a minimum) from that is quite a small number.
    However I mean no disrespect, I would be very disappointing if I couldn't play either.
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  • kaosodin
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    At least it worked. I'll sacrifice updated lighting and VCOH for the ability to do Cyrodiil and Veteran dungeons again............

    +1

  • GaldorP
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    I would also like to do PvP like in patch 1.2.2. again, but I think a rollback is almost impossible. First, it would probably require another 9 GB patch just to roll back the clients to 1.2.2. (patch 1.2.3. was about 9 GB I think). It would also take quite a bit of time to make that patch (I imagine). And then there would certainly be many compatibility issues. Think of new features like Jerkins that weren't in the game yet with patch 1.2.2. :O

    Also, I haven't met a single player participating in large scales battle in Auriel's Bow EU that didn't have the fps drop issue. Some have it worse than other, but everyone gets that problem when there are too many players nearby in Cyrodiil.
  • philip.ploegerb16_ESO
    Rolling back to a prior patch-state is definately necessary, and should have been done a lot earlier already, but better late, than too late.
    Edited by philip.ploegerb16_ESO on July 8, 2014 2:56AM
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  • thebigfist
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    My game became unplayable with that patch. I have been waiting for a rollback for 2 weeks now. Nope. =(
    Agreed. Customer Support is useless and act like it is all your fault.
  • Pmarsico9
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    Soothy wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If there's a million subscriptions at a minimum

    There's 250K at most. Probably down to 220K at this point. 250K was before the patch.

    1,000 affected accounts is also probably at the very minimum.

  • Fairydragon3
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    Soothy wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If there's a million subscriptions at a minimum

    There's 250K at most. Probably down to 220K at this point. 250K was before the patch.

    1,000 affected accounts is also probably at the very minimum.

    Source? I believe that number was thrown around on the forums as the minimum number of subs needed to keep a AAA MMO running
  • mutharex
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    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    Soothy wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If there's a million subscriptions at a minimum

    There's 250K at most. Probably down to 220K at this point. 250K was before the patch.

    1,000 affected accounts is also probably at the very minimum.

    Source? I believe that number was thrown around on the forums as the minimum number of subs needed to keep a AAA MMO running

    I could tell you where he gets his data from but there is a forum rule against talking about the nether regions publicly...

    Guys, you realize that parking this thread in troll land means it's now officially dead? Give it a break before you get even a warning...
  • Pmarsico9
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    mutharex wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »
    Soothy wrote: »
    Pmarsico9 wrote: »

    I don't really understand. Are you saying my issues are rare? There's at least 1,000 people with the FPS issues at a minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If there's a million subscriptions at a minimum

    There's 250K at most. Probably down to 220K at this point. 250K was before the patch.

    1,000 affected accounts is also probably at the very minimum.

    Source? I believe that number was thrown around on the forums as the minimum number of subs needed to keep a AAA MMO running

    I could tell you where he gets his data from but there is a forum rule against talking about the nether regions publicly...

    Guys, you realize that parking this thread in troll land means it's now officially dead? Give it a break before you get even a warning...

    Apparently there's a hotfix launched this morning...........Well I'll have to check it out tonight.
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