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Strategy for Defeating Storm Atronachs (Templar, Magicka-Based)

mistermacintosh
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Hi, does anyone have a good strategy for defeating Storm Atronachs as a magicka-strong Templar (Restoration Staff, Light Armor, Vet PVE, slightly above average player)? I'm not sure if this is the right place for this or if the answer has already been posted...

I ran a search for "Storm Atronachs" and mostly found threads loaded with gripes about them being overpowered (and immune to EVERYTHING) and counter-gripes from people who like the challenge and group up for everything, with no response from ZOS...

That's not helpful. I'd much rather have a strategy or at least a response from ZOS explaining why they made them so hard to kill.

I'm talking about a technique &/or build that makes it easier to take storm atronachs down with MY character (Solo). Telling me it's easier to accomplish with the other classes will not help me.

And yes, I know that grouping up, using your ultimate and not standing in AOE helps. Just forgo anything obvious like that.

I'm healing and dodging attacks as best as I can with a character that has very little stamina, yet just about every time a storm atronach spawns anywhere, I die. Stendarr help me if I have additional enemies to deal with.

I have similar trouble with Gargoyles, but they're far less common. Feel free to share constructive advise on those as well (for Templar).
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Magicka Templar Ra the Everlasting (Level 50 - Main Character)
Stamina Sorcerer Khazaka-ri (Level 50 - Crafter)
Dragonknight Tank Skalda Flamewreath (Level 50)
Pet Sorcerer Hellias Ocume (Level 50)
Magicka Necromancer Socelon (Level 4)

Templar Healer Mends-Through-Panic (Level 50)
Stamina Nightblade Adanna-daro (Level 50)
Stamina Warden Marely Sprigs (Level 50)
Stamina Dragonknight Ursula Trollcalmer (Level 50)
Stamina Necromancer Daengeval (Level 4)

Stamina Templar Cornellus Graves (Level 50)
Warden Healer Pays-For-Luxury (Level 50)
Magicka Sorcerer Sophia Flash (Level 50)
Magicka Dragonknight Cinvalo Aloavel (Level 50)
Magicka Nightblade Esmerelda the Cruel (Level 50)
  • crislevin
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    Did you try puncturing sweep plus some self heal, plus blazing shield?

    The morph was changed in recent patch, it may work better now.
    Edited by crislevin on July 6, 2014 3:24PM
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    They hit hard. the most important thing is to interupt the boom! AOE cast (which is a very fast cast).

    You can bash interupt it. There is also a Destro skill (first one?) that you can use to interrupt at range.

    I'd think that temp flashing lights morphs might help. Temps have a lot of utility skills.

    I tank solo them with a heavy armor temp build.

    Sorry, can't help too much with light armor.
  • mistermacintosh
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    I have not tried that combo. I suppose I could try it with Biting Jabs & Blazing Shield and see how it works out.

    I haven't been too impressed with Blazing shield thus far... maybe I'm not using it right.
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    Mac User, NA Server (CP810+, PVE focused):
    Magicka Templar Ra the Everlasting (Level 50 - Main Character)
    Stamina Sorcerer Khazaka-ri (Level 50 - Crafter)
    Dragonknight Tank Skalda Flamewreath (Level 50)
    Pet Sorcerer Hellias Ocume (Level 50)
    Magicka Necromancer Socelon (Level 4)

    Templar Healer Mends-Through-Panic (Level 50)
    Stamina Nightblade Adanna-daro (Level 50)
    Stamina Warden Marely Sprigs (Level 50)
    Stamina Dragonknight Ursula Trollcalmer (Level 50)
    Stamina Necromancer Daengeval (Level 4)

    Stamina Templar Cornellus Graves (Level 50)
    Warden Healer Pays-For-Luxury (Level 50)
    Magicka Sorcerer Sophia Flash (Level 50)
    Magicka Dragonknight Cinvalo Aloavel (Level 50)
    Magicka Nightblade Esmerelda the Cruel (Level 50)
  • crislevin
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    Puncturing sweep heals for 40% damage inflicted, biting jabs won't do.
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    Blazing shield works better with a lot of baddies. Not so good for only 1.

  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    The only way I found to beat those decently with a templar is to equip a restoration staff, use Vampire Bane for extra DPS, Rune Focus for the much needed mitigation and Breath of Life to recover health as fast as possible. If you manadge to interupt each AoEs done by the Atronauch and keep generating your magicka with heavy attacks you should be fine.

    Edit : Also you might consider Spiked Bone Shield if you are looking for even more physical mitigation and some damage reflect.
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on July 6, 2014 3:52PM
  • Lynx7386
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    I honestly think the devs made some massive mistake when applying stats to the atronachs. There's no reason that one form should be so much more powerful than the others.

    It's almost like they mixed up the stats or something for the npc storm atronach and the sorceror ultimate storm atronach.

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  • mistermacintosh
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    @traigusb14_ESO2‌, I have never tried to interrupt that AOE before. And yes, I have Toppling Charge, which I'll have to try (though, I'm sure they're immune to the stun...)

    And yes, I'd try flashing lights, but that's more of an up close and personal skill - not great for my current build, and I'd be spending magicka that could be better spent killing the damn thing.


    Thanks so much - this is exactly the kind of help I need, keep it coming.
    Legalize Nirnroot!

    Mac User, NA Server (CP810+, PVE focused):
    Magicka Templar Ra the Everlasting (Level 50 - Main Character)
    Stamina Sorcerer Khazaka-ri (Level 50 - Crafter)
    Dragonknight Tank Skalda Flamewreath (Level 50)
    Pet Sorcerer Hellias Ocume (Level 50)
    Magicka Necromancer Socelon (Level 4)

    Templar Healer Mends-Through-Panic (Level 50)
    Stamina Nightblade Adanna-daro (Level 50)
    Stamina Warden Marely Sprigs (Level 50)
    Stamina Dragonknight Ursula Trollcalmer (Level 50)
    Stamina Necromancer Daengeval (Level 4)

    Stamina Templar Cornellus Graves (Level 50)
    Warden Healer Pays-For-Luxury (Level 50)
    Magicka Sorcerer Sophia Flash (Level 50)
    Magicka Dragonknight Cinvalo Aloavel (Level 50)
    Magicka Nightblade Esmerelda the Cruel (Level 50)
  • mistermacintosh
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    @Lynx7386, I'm also curious as to what they were thinking when they decided stats for Storm Atronachs. The ones that spawn at Dolmens usually kill me pretty fast...
    Legalize Nirnroot!

    Mac User, NA Server (CP810+, PVE focused):
    Magicka Templar Ra the Everlasting (Level 50 - Main Character)
    Stamina Sorcerer Khazaka-ri (Level 50 - Crafter)
    Dragonknight Tank Skalda Flamewreath (Level 50)
    Pet Sorcerer Hellias Ocume (Level 50)
    Magicka Necromancer Socelon (Level 4)

    Templar Healer Mends-Through-Panic (Level 50)
    Stamina Nightblade Adanna-daro (Level 50)
    Stamina Warden Marely Sprigs (Level 50)
    Stamina Dragonknight Ursula Trollcalmer (Level 50)
    Stamina Necromancer Daengeval (Level 4)

    Stamina Templar Cornellus Graves (Level 50)
    Warden Healer Pays-For-Luxury (Level 50)
    Magicka Sorcerer Sophia Flash (Level 50)
    Magicka Dragonknight Cinvalo Aloavel (Level 50)
    Magicka Nightblade Esmerelda the Cruel (Level 50)
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    That AOE is the most dangerous thing they do. I use a normal up close 2 button stun on them, but I know the Destro interupt works on all "red line" interuptables (an my sorc has use it on these guys). So any skill that can interupt red lightning skills can stop it.

    The BOOM can 1 shot people at VR10 (i'm EP so our VR 10 zone is Reaper's March, where there is a field of Atros of various kinds.), especially if you aren't at full HP.

    If you need to practice timing / what does or doesn't bounce. Rubble Butte delve in bangakoiri (sp?) has lower level ones all over (VR 5 for me).
  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    dethbl00ms wrote: »
    @traigusb14_ESO2‌, I have never tried to interrupt that AOE before. And yes, I have Toppling Charge, which I'll have to try (though, I'm sure they're immune to the stun...)

    And yes, I'd try flashing lights, but that's more of an up close and personal skill - not great for my current build, and I'd be spending magicka that could be better spent killing the damn thing.


    Thanks so much - this is exactly the kind of help I need, keep it coming.

    Storm Atronauch are immune indeed to all CCs, but like any ennemies immune to CCs you can interupt their action if a couple of red dots encircle the target when it casts a skill. Powers that include an interupt fonction are Focussed Charge (+morphs), Venom Arrow and Crushing Shock.

    Or if you are in melee range, you can just Bash.
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on July 6, 2014 4:05PM
  • crislevin
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    I think its essential to maintain full hp at all time when doing this. So your magicka should be reserved for that purpose.

    Use either breath of life or blazing shield may work, not sure you need both.

    Throw couple of puncturing sweep, or even three or four if your magicka pool is big enough. Interrupt the big attacks. Heals when take damage. Rinse and repeat.

    Now I haven't try it, my temp is only V1. So good luck!
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    I generally use Extended Ritual, It is a fairly long DOT type heal that is fairly cheap. As long as you don't eat a big one and stay in the light all is good.
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on July 6, 2014 5:45PM
  • Lunerdog
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    My Sorc Healer can burn em down, hell he can burn anything down eventually, just takes a while and some dancing about.

    But yes, atronachs are a bit over fruity.

    As for my Nightblade, kite with the bow and pray fervently.
  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    Lunerdog wrote: »
    My Sorc Healer can burn em down, hell he can burn anything down eventually, just takes a while and some dancing about.

    But yes, atronachs are a bit over fruity.

    As for my Nightblade, kite with the bow and pray fervently.

    Well with the Nightblade I actualy know a power wich helps a lot against Storm Atronauch, the Shadow Image (morph) has a low enough cost and give you high enough mobility to actualy kite those big guys. You are still going to need some heals or Dark Cloak to remove the Snare/DoT from the Atronauch, but that extra burst of mobility you get from your Shadow Image helps a lot! :smile:

    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on July 6, 2014 9:16PM
  • The_Sadist
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    I honestly think the devs made some massive mistake when applying stats to the atronachs. There's no reason that one form should be so much more powerful than the others.

    It's almost like they mixed up the stats or something for the npc storm atronach and the sorceror ultimate storm atronach.

    In all ES games Storm Atronachs have always been the strongest of the three originals, typically with fire being the weakest and frost being in the middle. Also the Atronachs are Daedric, so it makes sense there would be a hierarchy in terms of power. I honestly see no issue.

    Also to the OP, I'm not a Templar, I find my Sorcerer has to avoid the AoE and utilise some healing alongside dots or something, they're troublesome.
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  • Innocente
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    Wait until after the VR modifications, see if they help you solo this stuff.
  • Slyyt
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    Nope the VR change didn't help much with Storm Atronachs. Theyre still pretty lethal IMO. Allthough I will say they do seem to have a lighter hit then before but with all their HPs you cant win a war of attrition. Kiting with bow wasnt helpful as it would just run me down. Melee was brutal due to the AoEs. Havent tried using interrupts yet but will give it a go. I hope it helps.
  • Slyyt
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    Nope I was wrong. Looking at the death recap they seem to be about were they were pre-mod. Hitting for about 400-1000 points of DMG depending on the attack. Interrupts didn't help much as they don't really stun for long if at all. Maybe they forgot to adjust these.
  • AckerBobb16_ESO
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    I'm in the same boat and would love to learn a strategy to defeat the atronachs. Right now i'm stuck on one of the first malabal tor (VR9 - me being VR 8) quests where i have to take two storm cores from atronachs each having more than 12k morale from which i can take about 1.5 k before i die. My build recently changed from a sword and board to resto staff, mainly using class/guild skills for damage.

    I see no other way than to wait till someone(or two) else is on the same quest and can assist me.
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    Templar is the only class I have been able to solo an equal level Storm atronach. Couple of things. resto staff with grand healing. restoring aura and cleansing ritual to keep stamina up for dodging and removing the dot that slows you up. after the aoe do some ranged dps, get ready to close for jabs and a bash interrupt (only interrupt that has ever worked for me. Just keep this up until dead. It is not fast but it works
  • theyancey
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    From a logical standpoint they SHOULD have a weakness to ice and immunity to fire. Try using a frost damage staff and see what happens.
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