900k for a purple recipe?

Enkil

Someone was spamming this in AD Auriel's Bow Cyrodiil spam.....

Really? How do people make this amount? I'm just wondering cause I could use the damn recipe!

Please share....

Insanyti

I read a post earlier saying that on EU the Vet 5 purple recipe went for 1 million.

mndfreeze

If you want to grind out money its actually not that hard really. I can come up with 40 to 50k in a day of playing if I sell everything instead of decon'ing for crafting, and sell any motif's and recipes I come across too. I only play casually though so normally it would take me about a week or so to make that much. But if I can do it without really trying @ 50k a day, imagine what some grind kiddie could do.

mndfreeze

That said, the prices for the purple receipes is INSANE.

Enkil

sucks I have real job where I need to make real money. Guess I'll have to make that level 40 purple food suffice for now.... LOL

Rylana

To be fair the rarity of the item only goes so far in justifying its price.

A level 45 purple food, for example is only about 15-20 in stats less, an absolute drop in the bucket.

Enkil

Rylana wrote: »

To be fair the rarity of the item only goes so far in justifying its price.

A level 45 purple food, for example is only about 15-20 in stats less, an absolute drop in the bucket.

That's my point.. I bought a lvl 35 purple recipe for maybe 5k earlier in the game.. how has it inflated this much????

Rylana

*shrug* milk the market for whatever you can get i guess

i remember the daedric motifs being 250k despite being common as hell, vampire bites being 30k despite being common as hell too.

its what people are willing to pay, thus drives the price.

i feel bad for people hoarding things trying to control the market though, it doesnt work in this game because chances are youre being undercut severely by a smart seller watching the trends and reaching out to WTB spammers with severely lower prices than youre trying to gouge for.

Good example being me. =D

Its also the exact reason i do not support an auction house and why so many scream for one, auction houses are price fixing tools and nothing more. its like buying every single roll of TP in a store and then selling it on the street for twice as much. Youre screwed into buying that TP for double because there is no source. And of course everyone needs TP.

Without an auction house (walmart) there is another store (me) willing to sell to you for closer to what its cost actually was. I get the sale, my profit margin, my competition gets the shaft, and you get your TP. Everyone is happy except for the ignoramous trying to make a quick buck on an inflated price he tried to create the supply vacuum for.

Simple market economics, the last thing this game needs is a walmart with players that set the prices.

For a direct in game example, I saw some moron trying to sell 8 trait resto staves in craglorn the night before last for 10k gold. I also can make 8 trait resto, and offered to sell mine for 5k (with mats) or 6k (my mats, add 500 for daedric/ancient/barb/prim) So 6500 if I supplied, 5000 if they did (for button push)

I got the biggest hate tell youve ever seen from that spammer, and four orders on the spot. (i only craft white unless someone is willing to pay for upgrade mats)

I made 20k in less than 10 minutes. Smiled all the way to the bank, too.

Pele

Insanyti wrote: »

I read a post earlier saying that on EU the Vet 5 purple recipe went for 1 million.

It sold for that much on the NA server too.

Enkil

it's also the drop rate that determines market prices... these items should not be limited to people that have no real life responsibilities and can play the game for hours every day.. For something like a motif which is purely cosmetic i don't get a ***, but for a recipe for food, which is important to your stats, I think the drops need to be more frequent. This is common sense.

AreoHotah

I could spam one for 5 mil, that doesn't mean it will sell...

Don't blame the one that ask for that price, blame the guy that pays for it... i wouldn't pay 100k for it, why?
1. because i already have so much gold that buying that to create food and sell it would be useless.
2. when i need food i just check in my 4 trading guilds with 400+ members and buy 10 or 20 for 200g each...
3. even if i am a guy that likes to collect everything, getting that would give me NOTHING. no achievement, no title, nothing.

Rylana

I make my own food (and most everything else except enchants and potions). Still using fortified sweet rolls. Takes me all of a half hour to farm up 25 honeycombs and red wheat, a quick jump to a veteran grocer for the imp flour, and blam 100 rolls for my three vet toons.

Ill get consummate v5 at some point, but definitely will never pay 900k for it, thats just hilarious.

Pele

Enkil wrote: »

it's also the drop rate that determines market prices... these items should not be limited to people that have no real life responsibilities and can play the game for hours every day.. For something like a motif which is purely cosmetic i don't get a ***, but for a recipe for food, which is important to your stats, I think the drops need to be more frequent. This is common sense.

Drops aren't limited to "people that have no real life responsibilities and can play the game for hours every day". A player can login and find a purple recipe within 5 minutes whilst another can play for hours and find nothing. It's all RNG. To state otherwise is misleading.

The drop rate is fine as is. I frequently see purple recipes for sale. I hope it is not changed

nudel

The reason motifs and recipes should be rare is because you only ever need one of each. Eventually their values will tank anyway. You already see it happening with motifs and blue recipes. That price drop had less to do with the drop rate and more to do with the fact that most people who wanted them had already landed a copy and didn't need another.

At least by making the drops somewhat rare you can delay their eventual exodus from the economy. It also creates demand for master crafters who have learned the recipes or motifs. Without the recipes being rare no one would ever need a Provisioner. That is literally the only limitation to the skill since anyone can max it in a few hours.

Rylana

nudel wrote: »

The reason motifs and recipes should be rare is because you only ever need one of each. Eventually their values will tank anyway. You already see it happening with motifs and blue recipes. That price drop had less to do with the drop rate and more to do with the fact that most people who wanted them had already landed a copy and didn't need another.

At least by making the drops somewhat rare you can delay their eventual exodus from the economy. It also creates demand for master crafters who have learned the recipes or motifs. Without the recipes being rare no one would ever need a Provisioner. That is literally the only limitation to the skill since anyone can max it in a few hours.

And yet trading guilds stand completely empty of vet 5 foods most of the time.

Speaking of which, I should start supplying that market, its just a lot of box diving for mats.

Pele

Rylana wrote: »

nudel wrote: »

The reason motifs and recipes should be rare is because you only ever need one of each. Eventually their values will tank anyway. You already see it happening with motifs and blue recipes. That price drop had less to do with the drop rate and more to do with the fact that most people who wanted them had already landed a copy and didn't need another.

At least by making the drops somewhat rare you can delay their eventual exodus from the economy. It also creates demand for master crafters who have learned the recipes or motifs. Without the recipes being rare no one would ever need a Provisioner. That is literally the only limitation to the skill since anyone can max it in a few hours.

And yet trading guilds stand completely empty of vet 5 foods most of the time.

Speaking of which, I should start supplying that market, its just a lot of box diving for mats.

Odd. I find purple food in my trading guilds more often than not, and one call out in chat for purple food will get you tells. Not to mention the purple food always up for sale in zone chat. One can make a lot of gold by simply selling high end provisioning mats and not the actual food.

vmoped

900k is cheap if it was a vet 5 purple. I see peeps in my veteran guilds buy/sell them for a million plus. One day I may find or afford one. I really wish they would just up the drop rate on them. It makes provisioning lackluster (for me)when I cannot even afford the recipes that I am capable of cooking. So I keep stockpiling mats in the bank hoping I get a lucky drop one day since I have to keep respeccing on my character (25k+) every time ZOS decides to try and 'fix' my nightblade.

I understand I can make money selling the mats I store up, but the point is I have been a lvl 50 provisioner since head start and still cannot make any purple food over lvl 35 due to the cost/drop rate barrier. I want to make my own food. The ingredients should be the barrier, not the recipe. I doubt Gordon Ramsey had to spend millions to learn to make a beef wellington...

Cheers!

Ninnghizhidda

Roughly 10 Euros for around 100k gold from all those (in)famous gold sellers. Lots and lots sites of that kind advertised around. People who cba to farm like "Chinese slaves" 24/7/365 (pardon the reference) and have a bit of dosh to spare, could spend those Euros and become insta-rich.

Just like many other MMOs where gold selling is profitable and the "economy" (?) either doesn't exist or is totally messed up.

AngryWolf

Purples like that can be rare, so the higher price. The price seems high to me, but people can ask whatever they want. People don't have to pay it. I would report him for spamming in chat though.

Nala_

sell drugs.

jockjammerb16_ESO

WTS a pack of top ramen, 500 billion dollars and the state of California,no negotiations.

ThePonzzz

What purple is going for that much. Curious. Unless I missed it somewhere.

I have no idea how people make that much gold. As a casual player that picks up everything, and sells over guild stores and /zone chats, I've barely made over 150,000g since I started. Most of it going to bag space, feeding my horse, and equipment repairs.

If people want to pay that much, more power to them. Take advantage of that all that you can.

Fleymark

Enkil wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To be fair the rarity of the item only goes so far in justifying its price.

A level 45 purple food, for example is only about 15-20 in stats less, an absolute drop in the bucket.

That's my point.. I bought a lvl 35 purple recipe for maybe 5k earlier in the game.. how has it inflated this much????

Because you are talking about the best food recipe in the game. These purples are super duper rare. And some use more easily obtainable materials than others. And since lower level ones aren't significantly worse, they aren't really "must haves" but more icing on the cake so to speak.

Don't get me wrong the amounts are insane but given what they are and that there are alternatives, and given their rarity, I think high sale prices are appropriate.

Bear in mind, these prices only get this high when people are willing to pay them. I play a lot and make a point of looting or trading for all my recipes and motifs, but apparently there are a lot of people who feel these recipes are worth this amount to have them.

Soloeus

vmoped wrote: »

900k is cheap if it was a vet 5 purple. I see peeps in my veteran guilds buy/sell them for a million plus. One day I may find or afford one. I really wish they would just up the drop rate on them. It makes provisioning lackluster (for me)when I cannot even afford the recipes that I am capable of cooking. So I keep stockpiling mats in the bank hoping I get a lucky drop one day since I have to keep respeccing on my character (25k+) every time ZOS decides to try and 'fix' my nightblade.

I understand I can make money selling the mats I store up, but the point is I have been a lvl 50 provisioner since head start and still cannot make any purple food over lvl 35 due to the cost/drop rate barrier. I want to make my own food. The ingredients should be the barrier, not the recipe. I doubt Gordon Ramsey had to spend millions to learn to make a beef wellington...

Cheers!

Sums up my feelings.

Gwarok

Enkil wrote: »

Someone was spamming this in AD Auriel's Bow Cyrodiil spam.....

Really? How do people make this amount? I'm just wondering cause I could use the damn recipe!

Please share....

They gotta keep support the gold spammers business somehow.

PM me their name @Enkil so I can put that greedy fool on my iggy list and not have to see that **** in chat.

DeLindsay

Enkil wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To be fair the rarity of the item only goes so far in justifying its price.

A level 45 purple food, for example is only about 15-20 in stats less, an absolute drop in the bucket.

That's my point.. I bought a lvl 35 purple recipe for maybe 5k earlier in the game.. how has it inflated this much????

Because, Humans. People will exploit other people for as much as they can as long as they have the option to do so. Although the highest I've seen one advertised for is 300K but still that's stupid. Epic Food is inferior to Superior (blue) food anyway due to giving less stats. Sure it gives all 3 but quite a bit less and if you run 0/49/0 like most do Health is a non-issue, or if you're a Caster like many are, Stamina is a non-issue.

Fleymark

DeLindsay wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To be fair the rarity of the item only goes so far in justifying its price.

A level 45 purple food, for example is only about 15-20 in stats less, an absolute drop in the bucket.

That's my point.. I bought a lvl 35 purple recipe for maybe 5k earlier in the game.. how has it inflated this much????

Because, Humans. People will exploit other people for as much as they can as long as they have the option to do so. Although the highest I've seen one advertised for is 300K but still that's stupid. Epic Food is inferior to Superior (blue) food anyway due to giving less stats. Sure it gives all 3 but quite a bit less and if you run 0/49/0 like most do Health is a non-issue, or if you're a Caster like many are, Stamina is a non-issue.

Some builds heavily utilize all 3, like a lot of tanks.

Selling something for what the market bears isn't "exploiting" anyone. These high prices only exist because people are willing to pay them. Simple supply and demand. And the fact that they are consumed items, the price will always be propped up to some extent no matter what else happens.

The rarity on these things could really stand a good hard look by the devs, though.

ESO_Beta_Gamer

I agree and disagree a bit here... the epic recipes have been unreasonably difficult to farm up even for yourself. I haven't seen an epic recipe in almost three weeks and that hasn't been for lack of looking. I'm a guild leader so naturally I'm farming up mats for food like crazy and generally throwing some of the recipes I find to my fellow guild members (The rare vet ones that most of us who do any farming run across constantly).

I agree that the prices are insane (600K-1M)... I don't agree however that their asking price based on rarity/demand/supply is totally out of whack (300K). The problem might be in the fact so many people want these recipes because they feel they need to have all the top end crap... however like most things that get inflated to insane prices like motifs and other crap... Zenimax will likely make them more common and crash the market for it eventually.

thorntk421

I have no idea how rare purple recipes actually are. But, in my experience they seem to not exist. I have two lv 42's and a 25 and have never gotten a purple recipe. I search 90% of the bags,packs,crates I see..Maybe the RNG gods just hate me.

Fleymark

thorntk421 wrote: »

I have no idea how rare purple recipes actually are. But, in my experience they seem to not exist. I have two lv 42's and a 25 and have never gotten a purple recipe. I search 90% of the bags,packs,crates I see..Maybe the RNG gods just hate me.

I have a VR toon and a low level alt (with another on the way), have played way too much for two months straight looting everything I can get my hands on because I do all crafts and, for the last week, have been farming like mad and I just saw my first purple recipe drop yesterday. A v5 drink.

The prices are high but these things are indeed super duper rare.

philip.ploegerb16_ESO

Fleymark wrote: »

thorntk421 wrote: »

The prices are high but these things are indeed super duper rare.

Super duper rare is funny, because the prices of those recipes are probably also that high, because of the super-dupers that existed in the beginning of eso ^^ .

No, seriously: I have 2 chars. I farmed, quite a lot, I quested, I farmed Style Books, while they were still at something between 60 and 80k, and I PvPed.
Those 2 characters which I got, got 2 times full-legendary-equip including legendary runes, which costed me roughtly 650k. I got 150k on the Bank, and own Materials worth another 100k, so that's the 900k that are talked of:

Really: My highest respect, should you have bought this recipe with legitemately earned gold, you really got determination .

If you however found that recipe, wow, must you be lucky.