Should ZOS Rollback to 1.2.2 and PTR-1.2.3 / 1.2.4 Until it is WORKING

Brizz

^this. If the next "fix" is going to be in the next few patch(s) - THAT'S PLURARL - Then I will be forced to quit. I could play just fine during 1.2.2 and enjoyed the game thoroughly, but not I can't play at all.

Brizz

Yes.

We bought the game to play it, not to be your paying Beta testers for the console version. Please test content and updates before you apply it to the game - This is expected and will reflect positively on you as a company.

taranto2mari2007peb18_ESO

Yes.

Brizz wrote: »

We bought the game to play it, not to be your paying Beta testers for the console version. Please test content and updates before you apply it to the game - This is expected and will reflect positively on you as a company.

I agree.
Now just do as Beta testers for console

Spiritreaver_ESO

No.

I voted no.

ZOS should seriously roll back to the first stable-ish build after launch and then pull a straight-up rip-off of Square-Enix and what they have done with ARR. I am not joking in the slightest.

The benefits would be threefold

1)They admit the game wasn't ready for live

2)They get time to rebuild the brand

3)They have a huge pool of willing beta-testers(if they listen this time....) for as long as it takes to get the game ready.

And for those that have no clue what i'm talking about, here is the quick rundown. SE released Final Fantasy 14 v1.0 and it flopped horribly. Then they point blank said it sucked and it was totally on them. Gave all the then current subscribers free subs until the game was ready for re-release. Also they restructured the whole dev team, from the top down and didn't just say they were listening to feedback-they acted on it.

Did wonders for ARR. Could work for TESO too imo.

Darwa

No.

I voted no because I've not been affected by the issues reported by others (FPS, lag, crashes etc).

My only problems have been with regards to balancing, and I can see that the devs are already working on that.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

Yes.

Not testing a major patch properly before it goes live is just stupid. When you can't find the cause of severe bugs in over a week, rolling back is the only wise thing to do.
I have not been hit all that bad myself, because I am not doing PvP at all, but I hear the complaints from my guild mates, none of which have been online much lately.

Ser Lobo

No.

malikwalker_ESO wrote: »

I voted no.

ZOS should seriously roll back to the first stable-ish build after launch and then pull a straight-up rip-off of Square-Enix and what they have done with ARR. I am not joking in the slightest.

The benefits would be threefold

1)They admit the game wasn't ready for live

2)They get time to rebuild the brand

3)They have a huge pool of willing beta-testers(if they listen this time....) for as long as it takes to get the game ready.

And for those that have no clue what i'm talking about, here is the quick rundown. SE released Final Fantasy 14 v1.0 and it flopped horribly. Then they point blank said it sucked and it was totally on them. Gave all the then current subscribers free subs until the game was ready for re-release. Also they restructured the whole dev team, from the top down and didn't just say they were listening to feedback-they acted on it.

Did wonders for ARR. Could work for TESO too imo.

Star Wars Galaxies flipped their game format completely after the launch of the game, too. And it is still considered one of the biggest screw ups in game development history.

Would be worse in ESO, I think. Unlike SWG, this format and game plan really does work and is a lot of fun, meaning that they'd be destroying a working (mechanic-wise) system to do lord knows what with it.

I say they just fix the bugs and we move on. I'd prefer not to have to reset characters and everything when the game is very enjoyable.

Hypertionb14_ESO

Yes.

its sad that 2x as many would like the rollback vs those who dont...

i as well... nothing added in 1.2.3 was worth the game suddenly becoming unplayable in a few situations... 1.2.4 made it to the point where it was unplayable in all situations.... not just PVP..

they dont to completly revamp the system.. just fix what is broken....

only thing that could use revamping is endgame..

rich_nicholsonb16_ESO

Yes.

Well ive decided enough is enough and unsubbed, got 8 days left so if they fix it within that time i'll re-sub, the game is unplayable for me and all i like to do is pvp.

I've seen better fixes in those free to download and play mmo's than what we have here, this game isn't worth a monthly fee as it stands now and i can't believe i'm saying this as in beta i thought it was a great game which deserved a monthly fee.

How can a game go from a smooth and very playable game to something that feels like your playing on a commador 64. Zos, you didn't need to improve performance or lighting or any of that guff, all was needed was endgame fluff to keep as going.

Catches_the_Sun

No.

I've also been completely unaffected by the issues that I read about here concerning stability since the Patch. Also, if you think rolling back a build would cause fewer issues than releasing a patch, you're delusional.

Sengra

Depends. When did 1.2.2 go live?

And what exactly does rollback mean? Would it include characters created, traits learned, gold made, quests finished .... or could they give us all/some of those things back?

Because, honestly, four more rounds of Wyrd sister / werewolf questing in Glenumbra and I'll probably start to have extremely well-dubbed nightmares.

crislevin

i want to say yes, but I am unsure its do-able with everybody download 9GB a week ago, now to ask them download god know how big a package?

kitsinni

No.

I voted no because it was a 9 GB patch and I can only imagine how bad it would be if they tried to roll that back.

Ashtaris

I'm still thinking about this one. Although I do think a rollback is in order, I would feel that it would cause a lot of problems. For one thing, I don't think they could do a rollback of the patch without doing the same for the database. So any quests or achievements you may have gained since 1.2.x was released would go out the window. Most of us could live with that, but would everyone? Some people have not been affected by the FPS or other gameplay issues, as hard as that is to believe So they wouldn't be happy, that's for sure.

WyndStryke

No.

Absolutely not. Can you imagine everybody's reaction?

Phantax

No.

Should ZOS Rollback to 1.2.2 and PTR-1.2.3 / 1.2.4 Until it is WORKING

WHY?.. they didn't roll back after the other patches and they borked those up just as efficiently....lol

samthedagger

Yes.

ROLLBACK!

Beesting

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

I've also been completely unaffected by the issues that I read about here concerning stability since the Patch. Also, if you think rolling back a build would cause fewer issues than releasing a patch, you're delusional.

@‌catches_the_sun can you please post your pc components here as i would love to buy the same setup and be able to play and see the mobs i am fighting.
Thank you

Side note, if there is a rolback just do a relaunch. At least the the zones will be full of people again,
I will take a week of work, lvl to vet10 and then they can release craglorn.
I will be waiting in the dungeon to reach V12 the same evening.

The way the game is now i might never get to V5, ever....

Hypertionb14_ESO

Yes.

Beesting wrote: »

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

I've also been completely unaffected by the issues that I read about here concerning stability since the Patch. Also, if you think rolling back a build would cause fewer issues than releasing a patch, you're delusional.

@‌catches_the_sun can you please post your pc components here as i would love to buy the same setup and be able to play and see the mobs i am fighting.
Thank you

Side note, if there is a rolback just do a relaunch. At least the the zones will be full of people again,
I will take a week of work, lvl to vet10 and then they can release craglorn.
I will be waiting in the dungeon to reach V12 the same evening.

The way the game is now i might never get to V5, ever....

even if you get a setup that works now, there is no guarentee it will work after another patch..

lots of people didnt have issues before 1.2.4 or even 1.2.3, then boom...

I hope the people who "have it good" right now get hit by nonsense that no one else gets later on...

Petty i know but its really begining to *** me off..

Sighlynce

No.

Heck no ! Please ... I can't imagine the mess of them trying to undo what they've done and then trying to undo the effects of their undoing ... And then repatching with a fixed redone patch... We'd be lucky to be able to interact with the launcher after all that fixin'.. Lets just let them fix whats been broke and not tempt fate.

Tandor

No.

I voted no because I haven't had any issues yet with the game. I realise I'm lucky in that respect and that others have had serious issues, mostly (but not wholly) server-side, but I don't see the issues as warranting such a massive roll-back at this time.

Vannor

No.

Game's fine for me. Don't see why my progress should made null and void because 72 people are unhappy.

Evergnar

Yes.

For this serious of a problem. Yes. If something like this can't be fixed in a week they need start reverting. If they keep taking 2+ weeks to fix major (game breaking) problems ESO will bleed like a siv.

NerfEverything

No.

Once again, another poll started by someone who has no clue how patches and development work.

Sigh...

ferzalrwb17_ESO

letohatcheeub17_ESO wrote: »

Heck no ! Please ... I can't imagine the mess of them trying to undo what they've done and then trying to undo the effects of their undoing ... And then repatching with a fixed redone patch... We'd be lucky to be able to interact with the launcher after all that fixin'.. Lets just let them fix whats been broke and not tempt fate.

Unfortunately this is the reality. They can't roll back now. The spaghetti is all tangled.

As for them fixing anything.. I have no faith. I've lost every last bit of it. Huge fan of the game here - very disappointed. I said I'd stick around to the end and I think I'm seeing it here. I can't imagine my favourite part of the game, PVP, will survive this.

I like the PvE also (I actually love the massive amount of content and the VR system too.. I really do) but that's also busted in so many ways that I can hardly be bothered logging on.

Nitratas

Yes.

Of course yes. in this state its unpayable

AleriSadasIndoril

No.

Darwa wrote: »

I voted no because I've not been affected by the issues reported by others (FPS, lag, crashes etc).

Same by me no problems!

kirnmalidus

Yes.

I know how patches and development are supposed to work. I wouldn't call whatever Zenimax is up to "how development works". Because it isn't working the way they are doing it now.

For me this continues to go back to QA. I really have no faith at this point that there is a competent QA team in place testing this stuff before it is pushed to production.

And PTS doesn't count as QA. QA means regression testing and analysis tools. With the proper tools analyzing the game as it runs these memory leaks and GPU/CPU utilization issues should have been easy to diagnose and solve before the patch was pushed.

Bars

Yes.

2 weeks left ,they can do what they want with it tbh

Saint_JiubB14_ESO

No.

I'm hoping for hotfixes almost daily and a patch Thursday and next Monday even though it is the 4th of Jly in the states.

I have considered unsubbing,for a month, but only in small part to the reported PvP issues (I have no issues outside pvp).

but given the massive mess ups in previous patches (computer damaging memory leaks, super lag in pvp, new non-functional skills, etc). this really isn't that unheard of. I was disappointed in how long the fixes MIGHT take. But I also look forward to the free game time players should receive if this continues a full week.

Glad somebody mentioned SWG. 3 months in weren't AT-ST still in the game? I think it took like 5 or 6 before they finally removed them.

Yakidafi

No.

I do not have the issues some 'players' have. I have not played pvp since patch though, but some say they have problems in pve. Which for me have become better.