Changes that didn't make it in the notes - for Bow Nightblades

reften

#1. Magnum shot: No longer can you hold block down, fire of a knockback-Magnum shot, to stop your NB from shooting himself back.

This was so handy in situations where you didn't want your NB push backwards. Either to avoid getting shot through a wall and stuck (you bow NBs know what I'm talking about) or in tight spots where you didn't want to get the attention of nearby MOBs. Oh well.

#2. Dark Cloak. I've decided that what I thought was a bug, was just a small change that had huge impacts on at least my play-style.

Here is the scenario. Dark cloak, load up a heavy bow shot...shoot, and go back to invisible with dark cloak.

Now anymore! There is a window between when you release the arrow...arrow flies, hits the target, plus about a second after it hits, that you can't fire dark cloak.

Anyway, always bugs me when these changes aren't included in patch notes. 2nd one, I can understand to be honest...but just tell the players so we're not scratching our heads trying to figure it out. Took me a while to figure #2 out...

Ser Lobo

I've noticed more damage output, and some funny issues now and again (not consistent enough to be reported), where knockback won't push them back, or poison arrow gets animation delayed until three or four other things go off.

Fight will be over, and all of a sudden I'll pop poison arrow, finishing off animations.

Combat roll doesn't always increase movement speed. Crippling Grasp isn't immobilizing targets anymore ... not even the first time.


No matter the bugs, I'm actually buzzing through content faster, with stamina left over after a fight (which was a huge issue beforehand).

Gilvoth

i noticed my damage was higher for just one skill and i looked at the skill itself and it said 101,101,101,101,101, 287
then after i relogged it said 91,91,91,91,91, 251
i have heard before that many nighblades were mentioning this happens. we get different damage output numbers every time we logg in, or relogg.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

i noticed my damage was higher for just one skill and i looked at the skill itself and it said 101,101,101,101,101, 287
then after i relogged it said 91,91,91,91,91, 251
i have heard before that many nighblades were mentioning this happens. we get different damage output numbers every time we logg in, or relogg.

The 10% bonus from master assasin is applied when you crouch.

Gilvoth

im going to go test that right now, brb

Gilvoth

your right,
when i crouched it went to 102, 102, 102, 102, 102, 284
awesome, but its still not enough damage. but is still awesome to see. thanx for info

ZoM_Head

My dual wield is dealing inconsistent damage, even with 30% crit chance i never saw a crit kick in on several enemies.

Feels like either enemies got a buff or weapons got a nerf to me. But again can not report it due to inconsistent results here and there.

Gilvoth

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

My dual wield is dealing inconsistent damage, even with 30% crit chance i never saw a crit kick in on several enemies.

Feels like either enemies got a buff or weapons got a nerf to me. But again can not report it due to inconsistent results here and there.

i agree which is what i was initially trying to say in the comment. i see different damage amounts every time i logg in and i almost never critical hit people even tho i have 39.9% critical. and by "never critical hit" what i mean is i never critical and since launch i have only seen my nightblade critical one time!
it was with a snipe on a dragonight, i 1 shot him from a distance. that is the only time i have ever seen myself critical hit any thing in pvp or pve. ever ...

monden1980b16_ESO

There is also an issue with Snipe and its morphs I recognized on my bow using templar.

Before patch 1.2.3 one could load snipe while in stealth, and as soon as the shot goes off, fire a light or even heavy attack and it would count as "out of stealth", as long as snipe did not land on the target yet.

Now, there seems to be a cooldown of almost 1 second after firing off snipe.

Maybe it's working as intended now, and maybe I was exploiting without knowing pre-patch... but actually I consider it as a nerf of bow DPS (one could fire 2 hard hitting attacks before, now one has to choose between snipe or a heavy attack out of stealth).

reften

monden1980b16_ESO wrote: »

There is also an issue with Snipe and its morphs I recognized on my bow using templar.

Before patch 1.2.3 one could load snipe while in stealth, and as soon as the shot goes off, fire a light or even heavy attack and it would count as "out of stealth", as long as snipe did not land on the target yet.

Now, there seems to be a cooldown of almost 1 second after firing off snipe.

Maybe it's working as intended now, and maybe I was exploiting without knowing pre-patch... but actually I consider it as a nerf of bow DPS (one could fire 2 hard hitting attacks before, now one has to choose between snipe or a heavy attack out of stealth).

Ahhh yes! Forgot this one. Nice add

D2player87

Noob question, how do you guys one shot someone with snipe. From stealth if i use snipe at most i will get a 1k hit.

Gilvoth

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

My dual wield is dealing inconsistent damage, even with 30% crit chance i never saw a crit kick in on several enemies.

Feels like either enemies got a buff or weapons got a nerf to me. But again can not report it due to inconsistent results here and there.

update:

i just relogged and went into crouch again and it now says

85, 85, 85, 85, 85, 237

where as in crouch earlier it said

it went to 102, 102, 102, 102, 102, 284


obviously there is a serious problem here that every time i relogg or go into or out of crouch it changes randomly to different numbers ....

Ser Lobo

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

My dual wield is dealing inconsistent damage, even with 30% crit chance i never saw a crit kick in on several enemies.

Feels like either enemies got a buff or weapons got a nerf to me. But again can not report it due to inconsistent results here and there.

update:

i just relogged and went into crouch again and it now says

85, 85, 85, 85, 85, 237

where as in crouch earlier it said

it went to 102, 102, 102, 102, 102, 284


obviously there is a serious problem here that every time i relogg or go into or out of crouch it changes randomly to different numbers ....

Have you taken into account any campaign buffs you may be receiving? Food buffs? Or any benefits from killing enemies prior to the target you are testing on?

Does the enemy have their back to you at all?

craeth

I've noticed that i miss several times during combat, even though the animation goes through. This happens not only with bow, but also spells.
This is rather frustrating as you end up using magicka/stamina but without actually dealing any damage. Fix this please.