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30 people in my guild QUIT

Suel
Suel
Soul Shriven
30 people in my guild QUIT. Been gaming since 1997, have played every major MMO since Ultima Online. Everyone quit but me. Why because Terrible game management. Nerf Bats, Sand Box Rules, to much Control and Narrow minded Developers. Cow towing to Elitist gamers. People today have jobs, families, lives. They want easy access, development, Easy play. IF you want a hard core game expect a narrow player base. Give the players the right to develop their on story lines driven by killing one another, stealing, taking loot from them, controlling resources. Build your own keeps fight for them, build your own houses fight for them, Naval combat fight for you boats, Thieving, Faction fighting in town.LOOT DROP, IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE EVERYTHING. Every body can be looted at a price of making you a criminal. Make the Game Where the players are free to act like their true self's. In other words Make it like Ultima Online before the days of Trammel or Shadow Bane.
This is the Darkest most Evil Candy ASS game I have ever played. DARK CONTENT FOR ([snip])CATS.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 30, 2014 4:45PM
  • yodased
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    lolwut? Acting like their true selves? Meaning non-confrontational keyboard warriors?

    We play these games to be exactly UNLIKE ourselves, to be a version of ourselves that couldn't possibly be in real life since you would go to jail for killing people.

    I don't think you want a game where people represent their real life counterparts. A whole lot of accountants, mechanics, doctors running around fixing things and balancing P&L reports to level up.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Wifeaggro13
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    ??????????? But i agree alot of people are quitting . Primarily due to melee and armor balance .and a poorly implemented end game
  • The_Sadist
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    Um, what?

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out, or do, I really don't care.
    Edited by The_Sadist on June 30, 2014 5:34PM
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  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Bovine hauling sounds interesting.
  • Vuron
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    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

    Your post is all over the map. You complain about the game being hard core and then you go on to suggest loot drop. I don't get it.

    So, because you've aged and now have a job, a family, and a life, that everyone has?

    And what part of this game is hard core? Everything from 1-VR12 can be solo'd.

    Cow towing to Elitist gamers? If anything, they've given in more to the single player TES players than anyone.

    *snip*
    Edited by RobinP on June 30, 2014 7:16PM
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Vuron wrote: »
    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

    Your post is all over the map. You complain about the game being hard core and then you go on to suggest loot drop. I don't get it.

    So, because you've aged and now have a job, a family, and a life, that everyone has?

    And what part of this game is hard core? Everything from 1-VR12 can be solo'd.

    Cow towing to Elitist gamers? If anything, they've given in more to the single player TES players than anyone.

    *snip*

    Lol i agree. Its a single player game over a mmo. And it never occured to me he was trolling
    Edited by RobinP on June 30, 2014 7:17PM
  • mattgbrowneub17_ESO
    Quitters quitting quittingly
  • RazielSR
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    Sadlm, that's nothing.

    In one of the guilds I'm in, this past two weeks there were just 2-5 people connected. The guild rooster has been decreasing and just 70 showing, of course not connected. The guild was in the first month more than 300 users. I entered yesterday and just me was connected. Today me and just another user.

    It is INCREDIBLE the amount of people leaving. Of course in this forum some people will tell you troll and that you are lying.

    Sad.
    Edited by RazielSR on June 30, 2014 4:41PM
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    Naval ... combat?? o.O
    Valar Morghulis.

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  • ThePonzzz
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    I mean... You can't blame people quitting something they aren't enjoying. It seems like everyone is waiting for them to fix a certain aspect of the game, and we generally know that the big changes are with Updates 3 and 4. So if you want to save $15 or $30 and put your account on hold, might as well. I don't get the rage.
  • arena25
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    How about I vote for "Immediate Closure of this Thread Requested" rather than a "Yes, he's a troll" or "No, he's not a troll". (And yes, I'm talking to ZeniMax)
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  • RazielSR
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    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    I mean... You can't blame people quitting something they aren't enjoying. It seems like everyone is waiting for them to fix a certain aspect of the game, and we generally know that the big changes are with Updates 3 and 4. So if you want to save $15 or $30 and put your account on hold, might as well. I don't get the rage.

    And what fixes in veteran ranks are we gonna have in update 3 and 4? Poeple is leaving because of veteran ranks mainly. Of course there are more things like the class imbalance, the lack of pure warrior or stamina class, etc, etc
  • Fuzzylumpkins
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    "I am the broadband Batman!"

    There are plenty of them "keyboard warriors" as a previous poster called them. But internet bullies and elitest is most likely not the reason that many players stopped playing. the game is anything but "hardcore" or for competitive players. You can title swap in pvp, the raids don't drop any sought after gear by the masses and breaks are as common as the latency issues. Look into thos reasons for player exodus instead of blaming other players. Gamers are notoriously thick skinned when it comes to a few mouthy /zone trolls.
  • ThePonzzz
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    RazielSR wrote: »
    ThePonzzz wrote: »
    I mean... You can't blame people quitting something they aren't enjoying. It seems like everyone is waiting for them to fix a certain aspect of the game, and we generally know that the big changes are with Updates 3 and 4. So if you want to save $15 or $30 and put your account on hold, might as well. I don't get the rage.

    And what fixes in veteran ranks are we gonna have in update 3 and 4? Poeple is leaving because of veteran ranks mainly. Of course there are more things like the class imbalance, the lack of pure warrior or stamina class, etc, etc

    Then save a few months subscription and come back in a few months, see if it got better. I don't get the rage though. No one gave me $60 back for Ryse on my Xbox One for 7 hours of gameplay.
  • KariTR
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    Bovine hauling sounds interesting.

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  • Caduryn
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    Suel wrote: »
    30 people in my guild QUIT. Been gaming since 1997, have played every major MMO since Ultima Online. Everyone quit but me. Why because Terrible game management. Nerf Bats, Sand Box Rules, to much Control and Narrow minded Developers. Cow towing to Elitist gamers. People today have jobs, families, lives. They want easy access, development, Easy play. IF you want a hard core game expect a narrow player base. Give the players the right to develop their on story lines driven by killing one another, stealing, taking loot from them, controlling resources. Build your own keeps fight for them, build your own houses fight for them, Naval combat fight for you boats, Thieving, Faction fighting in town.LOOT DROP, IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE EVERYTHING. Every body can be looted at a price of making you a criminal. Make the Game Where the players are free to act like their true self's. In other words Make it like Ultima Online before the days of Trammel or Shadow Bane.
    This is the Darkest most Evil Candy ASS game I have ever played. DARK CONTENT FOR ([snip])CATS.

    Sounds like he want to play Wurm Online.
  • arena25
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    Wait, what about Wurm Online?
    If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!
  • SystemiK
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    People are leaving in droves.

    Good riddance! The MMO hoppers are not the people who are going to support this game. If it can't survive without them, well then perhaps it was not meant to be. And if it somehow manages to survive in spite of them it will be a better game for it.
  • TheVindelator
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    Actually, patch 1.2.5 update reads "LOOT DROP, IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE EVERYTHING...for your true selfs"

    So that's getting fixed. What a relief, I was about to quit too.
  • timidobserver
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    ??????????? But i agree alot of people are quitting . Primarily due to melee and armor balance .and a poorly implemented end game

    A lot of people always quit MMOs. A lot of people quit GW2 and it is entirely free aside from the box price.
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  • Laura
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    Wow I can't figure out if you are joking, mad, happy, want it to be harder, think its hard enough, think its too hard, or trolling. This post literally made me feel dumb.


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  • Crisscross
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    10/10

    Watch the title-readers roll.
  • Vunter
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    You have some nice ideas dude, you should make your own game!
    Edited by Vunter on June 30, 2014 5:19PM
  • DanteVFenris
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    You left, and I joined. Guilds close, then new ones open up. Your point?
  • OrangeTheCat
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    I just hit VR. I'm not leaving but I put my newly VR main on hold and started leveling an alt.

    When people quit the guild rosters (err, "roosters") don't go down. Players are shown as not on line is all.
  • Fuzzylumpkins
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    ??????????? But i agree alot of people are quitting . Primarily due to melee and armor balance .and a poorly implemented end game

    A lot of people always quit MMOs. A lot of people quit GW2 and it is entirely free aside from the box price.

    Not even a comparable title. It was released to do. Title fee and nothing more. It was meant to only keep players interest for a few months tops. The less players on a server the less maintaining that server requires. Subscription based games never seek to lose subs. Even though it doesn't look like it for this game, more time , effort and money is put into sub based mmos. As where games like GW and GW2 do exactly enough to get the name out for a minute then fade away until part 3 or a subpar xpac with micro transactions.

  • psufan5
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    Was this a sarcastic thread? Please?

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  • jeradlub17_ESO
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    LOL What? I'm not sure what the op really wants here. First complains its too sand box then too controlled? People want easy due to busy lives then mentions all these hard core elements he wants including total loot loss on death? Complains about a hardcore game and to expect a narrow player base then mentions the 2 most sandbox niche games ever made as something he wants? lol Schizophrenic poster maybe?
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    ??????????? But i agree alot of people are quitting . Primarily due to melee and armor balance .and a poorly implemented end game

    A lot of people always quit MMOs. A lot of people quit GW2 and it is entirely free aside from the box price.

    Not even a comparable title. It was released to do. Title fee and nothing more. It was meant to only keep players interest for a few months tops. The less players on a server the less maintaining that server requires. Subscription based games never seek to lose subs. Even though it doesn't look like it for this game, more time , effort and money is put into sub based mmos. As where games like GW and GW2 do exactly enough to get the name out for a minute then fade away until part 3 or a subpar xpac with micro transactions.

    Not entirely true with GW2. They have been running updates consistently adding content and lore, in the hopes thAt you stick around and shell out for all the little crap they add every couple of weeks. They are pretty much doing the exact opposite of what you mention. They are running their game like it is subscription based only selling all the cosmetics instead of adding them for free with the updates.
  • drogon1
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    Check out Archeage. Sounds more like what you seem to describe.

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