Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

Rylana

Redfer wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

Are you really mocking BDG because we play as a group and wait for the stragglers to show up before plunging in so they can have some fun too?

No hes mocking BDG for being incompetent and hiding behind the other groups who are getting stuff done, then taking "credit".
All I see from them is them coming in after the main defense or offense is already over with.

And if I remember correctly BDG was the group that was throwing themselves into the meat grinder at chalman while the rest of AD defended every other emperor keep.

LOL?????

Other groups do stuff on Dawnbreaker? LOL WHAT???

I have yet to see a keep taken while I am on without BDG literally doing all of it, the siege, the clear, the cap. About the only contribution others do is claiming it for their guilds.

Agrippa_Invisus

Today had the derpiest scroll running I think I've ever seen on EP's side.

I can't apologize enough for people having to be put through that.

Ugh.

Ended it with a fun Rayles defense, though.

And, as always -- REMEMBER THE CHALAMO!

Rylana

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

Its not meant to insult my own faction, but honestly I never see anything happen til our guys are on.

Example: Last week when we took three imperial ring keeps in about an hour, while the entire rest of the faction (about double our numbers) got repeatedly wiped at Fare. DC was putting up very heavy resistance, but for whatever reason we could get through them, but the reds at Fare were making the rest of yellow look soft.

I dunno, its not like the same 20 people can be on all day long and night too.

Rylana wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

i heard you were talking *** and you didnt think that i would hear it

uwot? if i had something to say to you personally, rest assured i would have.

not exactly one known to be subtle or two faced. trust me on that one.

nah mate. if you wanna say that BDG is the only AD on dawnbreaker doing anything and every other one of the numerous guilds are just following you around, then that's your prerogative, but every blue and red in this thread knows you're talking *** and so do the other AD.

Oh I meant exactly what I said, and I do not apologize for it.

While we are doing speed caps on keeps we see groups of AD bang their heads on the walls of Alessia and Chalman all the time.

Take tonight for example. Red was turtled like crazy in Chalman, but zone insisted on zerging the hell out of it, their most heavily defended keep with their entire alliance inside. The place they defend the best.

Not to mention that BDG was stopping blues zerg trying to pass through the Bleaker/Chalman stairs that would have wiped your entire force out if not for us.

Being real, if BDG ever stopped carrying AD on DB, AD on DB wouldnt be able to do anything.

Now if someone steps up and starts coordinating better and actually can do something without 60 people and spamming camps to just speedzerg into an oilfarm, let me know.

FENGRUSH

BDG caps objectives where players are *not* at, then pick kills while sneaking on defense. The only time Ive seen BDG on front line battles of keeps is during prime time when the zergs come to life.

As a stand alone force, BDG is a pretty much just an oversized sneak attack gank group. Youll never see them on the offense out of sneak by themselves at a keep, because thats not their style.

Once they meet a force of similar size or just a group of competant players they get wiped out. Id imagine theyre telling themselves theyve been zerged. Truth is they spend 90% of their time killing NPCs/sneak attacking people so they never really learned how to play outside of opening on defenseless players.

I tried to PM their members similar thoughts but they took it as offensive and trash talk. Im just trying to give advice.

aksyong

BDG is the joke group that got wiped by me and my brother when they tried to ninja Glade and all died at flag from one negate and one banner roflmao.

FENGRUSH

Rylana wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

Its not meant to insult my own faction, but honestly I never see anything happen til our guys are on.

Example: Last week when we took three imperial ring keeps in about an hour, while the entire rest of the faction (about double our numbers) got repeatedly wiped at Fare. DC was putting up very heavy resistance, but for whatever reason we could get through them, but the reds at Fare were making the rest of yellow look soft.

I dunno, its not like the same 20 people can be on all day long and night too.

Rylana wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

i heard you were talking *** and you didnt think that i would hear it

uwot? if i had something to say to you personally, rest assured i would have.

not exactly one known to be subtle or two faced. trust me on that one.

nah mate. if you wanna say that BDG is the only AD on dawnbreaker doing anything and every other one of the numerous guilds are just following you around, then that's your prerogative, but every blue and red in this thread knows you're talking *** and so do the other AD.

Not to mention that BDG was stopping blues zerg trying to pass through the Bleaker/Chalman stairs that would have wiped your entire force out if not for us.
.

LOL. I cant resist. BDG sneaking at a choke point looking for people.

I came through here on my horse while randoms were fighting you guys, you were cleaned out very fast. I put up the camps behind yellow that led to waves of pubs pouring in on yellows back. Ultimately, they were smashed out of Chalman.

Your 'holding at the choke' never even held, and your alliance died to the very blues you said 'would have wiped your entire force'. (sorry, we did)

Rylana

FENGRUSH wrote: »

BDG caps objectives where players are *not* at, then pick kills while sneaking on defense. The only time Ive seen BDG on front line battles of keeps is during prime time when the zergs come to life.

As a stand alone force, BDG is a pretty much just an oversized sneak attack gank group. Youll never see them on the offense out of sneak by themselves at a keep, because thats not their style.

Once they meet a force of similar size or just a group of competant players they get wiped out. Id imagine theyre telling themselves theyve been zerged. Truth is they spend 90% of their time killing NPCs/sneak attacking people so they never really learned how to play outside of opening on defenseless players.

I tried to PM their members similar thoughts but they took it as offensive and trash talk. Im just trying to give advice.

You just pretty much summed up the entire DC playbook, any more advice?

Halrloprillalar

IF we happen to show up after the action is over, it simply means we were elsewhere finishing up something else and got late to the party. We do not 'hide' behind other groups.

If PuGs are sitting out and hitting things at will while we form up for a stealth push that's their prerogative. There is no point sitting out in a field eating oil and meatbags from the enemy if we can just demo their attack force. Many times we have actually rear ended an enemy force trying to wipe out a siege line this way.

Now I do believe there are other groups doing their own thing in whatever fashion or organized way they feel like but it just often seems that unless we are helping either directly or indirectly (by pulling forces elsewhere, breaking transit, etc.) things go a lot slower.

I don't want to see more AD in-fighting on this campaign as it is really detrimental to our goals. It's already bad enough when we have 2 other factions trying to pull the emp keeps from under us, we don't need our own people doing it.

We tried for a while to help Valnas get emp during several chalman sieges, either by being there (less often since this tends to happen past our bedtimes) or indirectly by holding off DC, or trying to scare EP into peeling off... unfortunately they have their turlezerg on chalman down pat and even let us walk a scroll out with no resistance. It's frustrating that the level of resistance to an AD emp is so high on DB but without a significant increase in organization of our ranks it will not happen.

So instead of forum pvp, go have your leaders get in touch, organize, discuss strats and get this *** *** done. AD4EMP

Quite frankly I'm disappointed this even needed to be said.

edit: feel free to trash talk other factions all you want

Rylana

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

Its not meant to insult my own faction, but honestly I never see anything happen til our guys are on.

Example: Last week when we took three imperial ring keeps in about an hour, while the entire rest of the faction (about double our numbers) got repeatedly wiped at Fare. DC was putting up very heavy resistance, but for whatever reason we could get through them, but the reds at Fare were making the rest of yellow look soft.

I dunno, its not like the same 20 people can be on all day long and night too.

Rylana wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, is this really the Dawnbreaker I've played on since the start? Used to be PVE for AD, now 24/7 action and AD is bringing up the rear in scoring, yet strong play all around. DB is Reloaded.

Well, AD keeps pushing emperor instead of doing things that score the bigger points like, I dunno, keeping control of their own scrolls.

AD is extremely disorganized to be fair. There are two main groups, one of them being BDG and for the most part we do everything while the other guys follow us around the map. Everyone else just seems to do random stuff and cant take a keep or hold it for the life of them.

i heard you were talking *** and you didnt think that i would hear it

uwot? if i had something to say to you personally, rest assured i would have.

not exactly one known to be subtle or two faced. trust me on that one.

nah mate. if you wanna say that BDG is the only AD on dawnbreaker doing anything and every other one of the numerous guilds are just following you around, then that's your prerogative, but every blue and red in this thread knows you're talking *** and so do the other AD.

Not to mention that BDG was stopping blues zerg trying to pass through the Bleaker/Chalman stairs that would have wiped your entire force out if not for us.
.

LOL. I cant resist. BDG sneaking at a choke point looking for people.

I came through here on my horse while randoms were fighting you guys, you were cleaned out very fast. I put up the camps behind yellow that led to waves of pubs pouring in on yellows back. Ultimately, they were smashed out of Chalman.

Your 'holding at the choke' never even held, and your alliance died to the very blues you said 'would have wiped your entire force'. (sorry, we did)

We held that force at bleakers for over a half hour. Youd think that would be enough time for the so-called "rest of AD" to get the job done at Chalman. It was a war of attrition, we only had 20. More DC showed up, then more, then more. We wiped DC about six times all told before we finally got broken.

Halrloprillalar

FENGRUSH wrote: »

BDG caps objectives where players are *not* at, then pick kills while sneaking on defense. The only time Ive seen BDG on front line battles of keeps is during prime time when the zergs come to life.

As a stand alone force, BDG is a pretty much just an oversized sneak attack gank group. Youll never see them on the offense out of sneak by themselves at a keep, because thats not their style.

Once they meet a force of similar size or just a group of competant players they get wiped out. Id imagine theyre telling themselves theyve been zerged. Truth is they spend 90% of their time killing NPCs/sneak attacking people so they never really learned how to play outside of opening on defenseless players.

I tried to PM their members similar thoughts but they took it as offensive and trash talk. Im just trying to give advice.

Advice to what? Former emp everyone and spam batswarm? Thanks bro.

mjspnrb18_ESO

Congratulations to Valnas who just got emperor 1 minute ago!

Kybotica

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Congratulations to Valnas who just got emperor 1 minute ago!

Just under the wire if maintenance times are normal! Congrats! One more work night and I'll be back for more fun. Love this campaign.

Glantris

thanks to the guilds decibel, elder blade, the elder trolls, and blades of vengeance the campaign leading up to valnas' hard-earned emperorship has finally culminated in a nexus of utter jiggle.

congrats valnas! too bad you couldn't get your emp title in the picture.

Agrippa_Invisus

Capped minutes before maintenance, eh?

*smirks*

Locking population didn't work, time to try off hours, right?

runagate

There were plenty of people around when AD got emp. There was a terrific battle between DC and EP which AD came in at the end of. That was one hell of a fun three-way.

Agrippa_Invisus

runagate wrote: »

There were plenty of people around when AD got emp. There was a terrific battle between DC and EP which AD came in at the end of. That was one hell of a fun three-way.

Of course there were.

Armitas

Congratz valnus and AD.

ChoochPooperton

we've fought for this over the last 3 days harder than everyone else. who wanted it more? my poopertons. i love you. jiggle away.

Glantris

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Capped minutes before maintenance, eh?

*smirks*

Locking population didn't work, time to try off hours, right?

mate, we've all been here for over 14-16 hours a day for the past week getting valnas emp because we're all rooting for him. we respect you as opponents, but we're also really drunk and don't sleep. come get some.

(after maintenance tho)

Warz

Hard earned my ass you guys fought 6 of us the whole time we had no one else on defense at all. pushing for emp while the whole server slept with almost a full raid squad. Like literally no dc population at all. Along with no one on defense but our measly squad of 6 who were already discouraged after a lvl 10 AD spy hand fed you guys our scroll. And yes he was caught logging onto not one but two AD toons after we all chased him off and reported him.But a night cap was bound to happen for you sooner or later so congrats on the easy emperorship.

ChoochPooperton

Warz, don't be mad bruh. You were there to the last minute, same as us. So, be cool, my pooperton. we fought a giant battle over the last 3 days, and we won. jiggle it son.

ChoochPooperton

From W'R'X:

"First off try not dying every chance you get.

2nd. Dont sit here and hate on us for absolutely dismantleing red (which was more than 6). We all understand a keep defended by 60 people probably wont be taken, we took advantage of our situation with 15 people. We were better tongiht and thats it. If you think you can do it in "prime time" then come do it."

Agrippa_Invisus

Shorter AD: Please let us think that this was a great accomplishment instead of just the ability to stay up longer than you guys.

Warz

And last time I checked fighting 3 dks one that will use impulse the others who believes spamming 1 skill is for noobs. A templar that isn't built for healing but mostly for tanking aka me, another templar built for pure dps also not built for healing so much since he was sword and board and bow and a nightblade built as a tank going up against 16 maybe more half of you spamming impulse talons and standards since you had several dks with dedicated healers like winnamine and sorcs for range shouldn't be calling us a hard fight. That was your resistance. And none of us even claiming to be amongst the best in EP at all.

ChoochPooperton

and grammar and commas and periods and semicolons are a good thing to use because they are good and i love them.

Glantris

dont be a party pooperton

aksyong

I can just say, ADs love gaining emp either by

1) moments before server down
2) through sheer numbers flooding and drowning you with it
3) night capping while the rest are asleep or at work

I've seen how bad you guys were, so stop claiming credit that you guys accomplished something here. Yesterday just two of my people and I were able to stop you from capping BRK and Chalman. So terribad.

Warz

And primetime people arent worrying about ad for the past week ad allowed itself to be farmed by 1 guild in faregyl for hours. 2nd most of my deaths result in 1-2 ad dropping sometimes full squads if there is enough backup fire. 3rd before trying to give tips learn something other than impulse spam on destro staff. There is only one real threat on the server and they are over10k above us all, so before your epeens get too high try defending against them after maint and watch all your stuff get taken like always.

Warz

Grammar is hard to use when it takes forever to type and fix everything when typing on my phone, without it wanting to replace every other word.

runagate

Warz gets my award for the only person less disheartened by dying while completely outnumbered but running straight back into the fray more times than me.