Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

Arkath

Rylana wrote: »

You had poplock for almost that entire span, whereas neither AD nor EP had even half the numbers.

That's an absolute lie. Much of prime time, all factions were at two (yes, two) bars. Then DC pop locked. Then all three pop locked. At one point, DC was back down to two, and red and yellow were locked.

Rylana wrote: »

I am going to lay it out to you exactly like this. DC took the server when no one was on. Then everyone in DC guested to DB and sat at the gates and keeps for about six hours last night, to block any retake.

DC painting the map blue yesterday had nothing to do with the guesters last night. The map went blue initially because we logged in to a yellow map, and then WRX decided to send abusive tells to players on DC.

Funny how yellow and red can pop lock for weeks prior, and no big deal. But when DC's population finally matches orange, "o lawd u blue r cheats and hax and exploits and this is no fair whaaaaaaa."

QQ more.

GRxKnight

The thing is, I don't even recognize half of these DC names when I'm fighting, so my first thought leads to guesters. And with what I read on the previous page, I was right. I know AD and EP bring guesters on here occasionally, but to do what blue did yesterday is just down right unhealthy for what was a fun campaign. Nobody wants to play on a campaign where one factions controls every single keep, resource, and scroll. It takes all the fun out of it IMO.

Agrippa_Invisus

GRxKnight wrote: »

The thing is, I don't even recognize half of these DC names when I'm fighting, so my first thought leads to guesters. And with what I read on the previous page, I was right. I know AD and EP bring guesters on here occasionally, but to do what blue did yesterday is just down right unhealthy for what was a fun campaign. Nobody wants to play on a campaign where one factions controls every single keep, resource, and scroll. It takes all the fun out of it IMO.

Pretty much this, speaking as someone who used to home on Bloodthorn.

Blue was sweeping up the three Red inner keeps this morning when I checked the map and was clearing mails this morning before going to work.

Good job, Blue.

Arkath

GRxKnight wrote: »

The thing is, I don't even recognize half of these DC names when I'm fighting, so my first thought leads to guesters. And with what I read on the previous page, I was right. I know AD and EP bring guesters on here occasionally, but to do what blue did yesterday is just down right unhealthy for what was a fun campaign. Nobody wants to play on a campaign where one factions controls every single keep, resource, and scroll. It takes all the fun out of it IMO.

You're entirely right.

Warz

Its because theDC did the same thing they did when I threatened Auriels bow with about 40 ep. I took half the keeps and the emperor got help from DC in other servers. Not saying its a bad thing any alliance would do the same if they had the ability. I personally had fun fighting wave after wave of DC yest off our defenses and I felt it helped my crew get a little better. But it does make me wish EP leaders ect would drop their epeens, thinking they and their guild are already the greatest, when stuff like this can happen and actually really work together for once.

aksyong

Warz wrote: »

Its because theDC did the same thing they did when I threatened Auriels bow with about 40 ep. I took half the keeps and the emperor got help from DC in other servers. Not saying its a bad thing any alliance would do the same if they had the ability. I personally had fun fighting wave after wave of DC yest off our defenses and I felt it helped my crew get a little better. But it does make me wish EP leaders ect would drop their epeens, thinking they and their guild are already the greatest, when stuff like this can happen and actually really work together for once.

This.

dcincali

IKilled007 wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

OK blue you made you're point. If you want to you can turn the map completely blue and there's no chance we can catch you when you consistantly do this. Now can we go back to the enjoyable campaign instead of turning this into another BT please?

That depends. We will accept a public apology from the member of Decibel who insulted our guild "No Mercy" and our guild member "Hova", and that will be sufficient payment for us to leave. Otherwise, we will annihilate this server like we do all the others. 4 of our guild members are current emperors. We cannot be stopped.

As AD and active defender of The Queen on Dawnbreaker, we will not force this player whom you claim "Insulted your guild and member" to apologize for anything that was said in tells and whispers. If you have personal issues you take it up with that person. All you have done now is ruffle the feathers of MANY AD and EP guilds on what it looks like not only 1 but 4 campaigns. If you choose to stay and harass on Dawnbreaker, we will rally the Orange army and dethrone your 4 emperors as you can not be in 4 places at once. You can be stopped. 1 faction vs 2. Do the math.

Warz

dcincali wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

OK blue you made you're point. If you want to you can turn the map completely blue and there's no chance we can catch you when you consistantly do this. Now can we go back to the enjoyable campaign instead of turning this into another BT please?

That depends. We will accept a public apology from the member of Decibel who insulted our guild "No Mercy" and our guild member "Hova", and that will be sufficient payment for us to leave. Otherwise, we will annihilate this server like we do all the others. 4 of our guild members are current emperors. We cannot be stopped.

As AD and active defender of The Queen on Dawnbreaker, we will not force this player whom you claim "Insulted your guild and member" to apologize for anything that was said in tells and whispers. If you have personal issues you take it up with that person. All you have done now is ruffle the feathers of MANY AD and EP guilds on what it looks like not only 1 but 4 campaigns. If you choose to stay and harass on Dawnbreaker, we will rally the Orange army and dethrone your 4 emperors as you can not be in 4 places at once. You can be stopped. 1 faction vs 2. Do the math.

yeah don't apologize hova you damn easy mode DK playing person you 1v1 again lets go

Agrippa_Invisus

If anyone feels that someone was abusing or insulting in private tells or communications, or even on the forums, the appropriate response is to report them to CSRs or Forum Mods.

Warz

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

If anyone feels that someone was abusing or insulting in private tells or communications, or even on the forums, the appropriate response is to report them to CSRs or Forum Mods.

no no the only course of action that should reallyyy be taken is all of DC 1v1 me just stand in a big line in numbered order.

Agrippa_Invisus

Warz wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

If anyone feels that someone was abusing or insulting in private tells or communications, or even on the forums, the appropriate response is to report them to CSRs or Forum Mods.

no no the only course of action that should reallyyy be taken is all of DC 1v1 me just stand in a big line in numbered order.

I thought you only 1vZergballed, Warz?

Warz

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Warz wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

If anyone feels that someone was abusing or insulting in private tells or communications, or even on the forums, the appropriate response is to report them to CSRs or Forum Mods.

no no the only course of action that should reallyyy be taken is all of DC 1v1 me just stand in a big line in numbered order.

I thought you only 1vZergballed, Warz?

well I do that too but I am also a member of Legends 1v1 guild and do plenty of dueling in off hours.

Braidas

dcincali wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

OK blue you made you're point. If you want to you can turn the map completely blue and there's no chance we can catch you when you consistantly do this. Now can we go back to the enjoyable campaign instead of turning this into another BT please?

That depends. We will accept a public apology from the member of Decibel who insulted our guild "No Mercy" and our guild member "Hova", and that will be sufficient payment for us to leave. Otherwise, we will annihilate this server like we do all the others. 4 of our guild members are current emperors. We cannot be stopped.

As AD and active defender of The Queen on Dawnbreaker, we will not force this player whom you claim "Insulted your guild and member" to apologize for anything that was said in tells and whispers. If you have personal issues you take it up with that person. All you have done now is ruffle the feathers of MANY AD and EP guilds on what it looks like not only 1 but 4 campaigns. If you choose to stay and harass on Dawnbreaker, we will rally the Orange army and dethrone your 4 emperors as you can not be in 4 places at once. You can be stopped. 1 faction vs 2. Do the math.

pls do, id love to see this leet leet dc guild lose BT and w/e other campaigns they sit on. gtfo of db...and asking for an apology to not destroy a campaign? srsly? get the *** over yourselves

Armitas

IKilled007 wrote: »

That depends. We will accept a public apology from the member of Decibel who insulted our guild "No Mercy" and our guild member "Hova", and that will be sufficient payment for us to leave. Otherwise, we will annihilate this server like we do all the others. 4 of our guild members are current emperors. We cannot be stopped.

Welcome to the internet. You may want to expend that energy into developing your self esteem rather than chasing after everyone who insults you. You will find that knowing who you are is far better than letting others define you.

Agrippa_Invisus

Armitas wrote: »

IKilled007 wrote: »

That depends. We will accept a public apology from the member of Decibel who insulted our guild "No Mercy" and our guild member "Hova", and that will be sufficient payment for us to leave. Otherwise, we will annihilate this server like we do all the others. 4 of our guild members are current emperors. We cannot be stopped.

Welcome to the internet. You may want to expend that energy into developing your self esteem rather than chasing after everyone who insults you. You will find that knowing who you are is far better than letting others define you.

Chasing people around over insults on the internet has its own special way of defining your character for you to others.

bitaken

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

BTW, Bitaken, GF @ Rayles yesterday.

Kinda glad it was DC regulars who showed up instead of the Guest Parade. Felt more at home that way.

EDIT:

And to draq for never giving up on getting into that damn cubby with the oil pot.

dcincali

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

Agrippa_Invisus

dcincali wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

Yeah, well, people also need to stop with the s**t talking and use a bit more sportsmanship. More GF, GG, and less QQ.

Now there's a giant mess in my back yard and it's annoying as hell, because everyone's overreacting.

Warz

dcincali wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

Careful kittenbitten might go on another temper tantrum and wipe the unpopulated map.... ohh wait nvm. and kittenbitten you have so much epeen for a group that consistently has to switch keep to keep to finally try back capping before you finally outnumber people with your zergball tactic. Please don't try saying you don't do it because,
1: you are the definition of zergballing, running around in a ball from one location to the other clumped together spamming 1 button which for you guys is usually impulse or your ridiculous amount of healers spam healing and purifying. So possibility of 2 buttons.
2: every time you hit resistance of a significant force you can never take the keep you always run off to try back capping another one, hence why I spent a morning chasing you with 6 people pushing you out of 5 attempts on keeps before we decided to go eat breakfast.

Warz

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

BTW, Bitaken, GF @ Rayles yesterday.

Kinda glad it was DC regulars who showed up instead of the Guest Parade. Felt more at home that way.

EDIT:

And to draq for never giving up on getting into that damn cubby with the oil pot.

gtfo of my cubbies draq they are mine >:O

Arkath

dcincali wrote: »

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

DB blues did not call in other guilds. That was an entirely separate issue. Seems you like to insinuate that people are garbage. Perhaps that fits your level of reading comprehension as well.

Arkath

Warz wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

BTW, Bitaken, GF @ Rayles yesterday.

Kinda glad it was DC regulars who showed up instead of the Guest Parade. Felt more at home that way.

EDIT:

And to draq for never giving up on getting into that damn cubby with the oil pot.

gtfo of my cubbies draq they are mine >:O

Come one now Warz, you can't lay claim to both cubbies and boxes. Sharing is caring, sweetheart.

bitaken

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

BTW, Bitaken, GF @ Rayles yesterday.

Kinda glad it was DC regulars who showed up instead of the Guest Parade. Felt more at home that way.

EDIT:

And to draq for never giving up on getting into that damn cubby with the oil pot.

Yeah we got you guys wiped upstairs - and then on second level - when we pushed flags - people stopped paying attention and we failed to hold. It was a good fight - but Mighterknot...man he made my ignore list. I like to fight your group Grippa - we always have fun when we go up against you guys.

dcincali

Inimicus wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

DB blues did not call in other guilds. That was an entirely separate issue. Seems you like to insinuate that people are garbage. Perhaps that fits your level of reading comprehension as well.

There is no insinuation based on current game play tactics just facts. Sorry.

GRxKnight

So how about we reset the campaign where everyone has their scrolls, home keeps, and start fresh? Blue wins round one so lets go back to the way things were and enjoy the last few days we have left of this campaign instead of guesting elsewhere to have fun or, dare I say it, PvE.

chimneyswift_ESO

FENGRUSH wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Fengrush was greatly displeased by the celebratory behaviors occurring on the forums and set his generals upon the map.

AKA Calling in people from other campaigns. *golf clap* Wells played sir...

Fengrush doesnt call for help, especially from other campaigns. Fengrush directs the peons of Dawn and leads them to victory.

Fengrush talks in 3rd person? O.o

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

BTW, Bitaken, GF @ Rayles yesterday.

Kinda glad it was DC regulars who showed up instead of the Guest Parade. Felt more at home that way.

EDIT:

And to draq for never giving up on getting into that damn cubby with the oil pot.

Yeah we got you guys wiped upstairs - and then on second level - when we pushed flags - people stopped paying attention and we failed to hold. It was a good fight - but Mighterknot...man he made my ignore list. I like to fight your group Grippa - we always have fun when we go up against you guys.

I've warned Mighter on the crap talking a few times. He's a great guy, and I love him, but he lets himself get worked up. Apologies if he said anything untoward.

We thought you had us when you got in on the third floor, but someone failed to tag the inner and we locked you in, and just had to attrition you out of the inner keep.

bitaken

dcincali wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

We called in nobody. I am not a political person and do not have any contacts in any other DC guilds beyond DB or some old friends from Wabba last campaign. WRX specifically told me we would not be taking any more keeps. We proved him wrong and when the mini zerg of 20 AD stopped trying to come defend (I say mini zerg because I saw only one or two vet 12's and no higher AvA ranks) we just flipped the map like was done to us the previous evening.

You can believe what you like but we generally avoided the guest zerg. We left when they came to our farm at Arrius, and when they came to our farm at BRK and when they returned to Blackboot. So, whatever you want to believe is fine with me.

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Well, EHJ turned the map blue yesterday. This was because WRX decided to tell me we were not flipping one more keep - after we took Dragonclaw. He promised me we would not take one more keep - that he had 5 guys and they were going to wipe us out again and again. He also decided to tell me my guild and I were garbage, that Ember and Antwerp were bad players and that my guild is the running joke of the server. So, after his tirade - yeah we went to town on the map.

However, we stopped short of taking yellows scrolls. We could have had them - but we left them. Because, we want yellow to finish second on this campaign. However, it seems more of AD decided to run their mouths at another DC guild - and well this is what happens when people talk bigger than they are capable of backing it up. Somebody else came on finished AD off - and kept them down all night.

I also do not think it is healthy, but at the same time understand the reaction 100%.

I'm sorry but this is a BS excuse. If you have beef with WRX, this easily could have been settled with a gvg between Decibel and your guild. DC calling in other DC guilds to *** on the map due to broken egos because some guy said you were garbage, just proves the point that maybe you are garbage if you cant handle the beef on your own campaign with out calling in 4 emps for back up. Just saying.

We called in nobody. I am not a political person and do not have any contacts in any other DC guilds beyond DB or some old friends from Wabba last campaign. WRX specifically told me we would not be taking any more keeps. We proved him wrong and when the mini zerg of 20 AD stopped trying to come defend (I say mini zerg because I saw only one or two vet 12's and no higher AvA ranks) we just flipped the map like was done to us the previous evening.

You can believe what you like but we generally avoided the guest zerg. We left when they came to our farm at Arrius, and when they came to our farm at BRK and when they returned to Blackboot. So, whatever you want to believe is fine with me.

This I believe.

EG and No Mercy and Zergmother Mayweather do what they want and go where they want for their own reasons. I doubt anyone called for them when they show up on DB.

As normal, the server does not end up for the better due to it.