Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

murtugo

bitaken wrote: »

As if any of the fun that occurred on a balanced server matters. Log in at 7 AM and the map is completely red. Is EP trying to come back into the campaign?

Won't happen. Your people are bad players. Whatever you take at night you can't hold during the day - and during prime time you're all just meat to be feasted on.

Another EP emp - grats to achieving nothing. EP using a balanced campaign to PvDoor emperors while everyone asleep is just a joke.

You're just complaining because EP exposed the mighty DC's weakness. Your Oceania/SEA players cannot defend your keeps. If you want to blame someone then blame your own Oceania/SEA team. Its not EPs fault that they are incompetent in defending your keeps. Don't blame EP for your weakness.

Advice from the Pact:

You should go to zone/QQ/world chat or whatever chat you find appropriate in DC zone and simply type this words:

"LF Oceanea/SEA players to help us defend our keeps from EP. Seriously guys they are laughing at us right now and we really need your help... please QQ"

Problem solved!

Happy to Help.

Agrippa_Invisus

And to point out, for blue's benefits, the two lost home keeps (Warden and Glademist), were both attributed to my team, not the Oceanic crew. We held Warden starting at about 9pm and held it against multiple retake attempts (Ask Yonkit, Jay'bo, Lord Sinsear UDL and others), each time trying to bring down Glade between said attempts.

Finally got Glademist at about 11pm PST/1am Central. The entire time there were Blues farming inside of Roebeck, refusing to come out. They remained in Roebeck until we undocked Ni-Mohk and put it it in transit. There were a good 15-20 (mostly V12, including Naw Sunrest) blues that chased us after we got Ni-Mohk out of the gate and if a single one of them had showed up at the temple, it would have doubled the number of defenders I saw when grabbing the scroll.

But nope, they couldn't give up that sweet, sweet AP farm in Roebeck to suicide out and come defend the moment Glademist flagged.

After capturing the scroll, we wiped blue one last time on Glademist and then flipped Aleswell. When there were no more defenders showing up, as Ales remained empty, we then went to bed.

bitaken

And...DC has a new Emperor - Grats Cent!!

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

And...DC has a new Emperor - Grats Cent!!

*chuckles*

I've always been a big fan of irony.

bitaken

Me too Grippa We speed flipped the map on the EP defenders this morning. We are getting quite good at it!!

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

Me too Grippa We speed flipped the map on the EP defenders this morning. We are getting quite good at it!!

The only accomplishment worth congratulating is Cent bypassing Draq. That man knows how to gain AP and it took a lot of effort to get to the #1 slot. Congrats to Cent for that.

As you yourself have noted, the defenders in the morning EP side don't defend well against you. I've watched it in person a couple times when I am (rarely) on at that time -- they fall for some very classic traps and tactics. Largely I find that's due to the lack of any guild leadership online for EP that time of day.

Essentially, it's the same level of PVP that is ascribed to EP in the late, late night.

So... not really much worthy of note.

You've seen me fight, I'm sure. I much prefer to pull my enemies into a meat grinder and pound them into the dirt.

Rylana

I do find it particularly stupid that you guys dont make emp pushes when AD is actually online though. Its always after we leave. Why is this? Y U NO FIGHT US WHEN WE HERE?

I know its the same guys capping overnight that we see before we go to bed, just turtling a keep. What gives? Are you afraid to fight us?



Sidenote - AD still has the most prime time emp caps on this campaign. 2 bar pop in every faction for the last one.

Agrippa_Invisus

Rylana wrote: »

I do find it particularly stupid that you guys dont make emp pushes when AD is actually online though. Its always after we leave. Why is this? Y U NO FIGHT US WHEN WE HERE?

I know its the same guys capping overnight that we see before we go to bed, just turtling a keep. What gives? Are you afraid to fight us?



Sidenote - AD still has the most prime time emp caps on this campaign. 2 bar pop in every faction for the last one.

I was asleep at the time.

Columba

I seem to recall the DC "shunning" anyone who worked with EG when EG visited and tried to help you yesterday, so lol. Payback! Lose all your keeps for all I care.

Rylana

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

Agrippa_Invisus

Rylana wrote: »

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

I'm sorry, I was too busy attempting (and occasionally succeeding) at stealing scrolls yesterday during high population hours to farm.

Between that and flipping keeps to keep the EP score up during prime time (we were at BRK, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, Warden, Glademist, and Bloodmayne), I'm not really sure how that qualifies for your statement.

I think you're unaware of everything we do, because a) it doesn't always affect AD, and b) because I'm not keen to appraise you of my day to day activities.

GRxKnight

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

I'm sorry, I was too busy attempting (and occasionally succeeding) at stealing scrolls yesterday during high population hours to farm.

Between that and flipping keeps to keep the EP score up during prime time (we were at BRK, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, Warden, Glademist, and Bloodmayne), I'm not really sure how that qualifies for your statement.

I think you're unaware of everything we do, because a) it doesn't always affect AD, and b) because I'm not keen to appraise you of my day to day activities.

Actually Rylana is correct. During prime time, I only see red doing something on the map maybe once an hour, and that excludes flipping outposts. We all have kill counter; we know when resources, outposts, and keeps flip. And more often than not, it's either reading Daggerfall, or Aldmeri on my screen.

EP tried last night to get the scroll back and failed (at 11 EST). I logged off to go play league with my friends, then logged back on for my hirling mats and found that we still had all the scrolls we started the day with (this was around 1 AM EST). It wasn't until I logged on this morning that I see EP with the majority of the scrolls. So points for trying I guess.

And for those of the EP that say "well you guys flip the map when it's not our prime time" well, what's the pop like when it's you guys' prime time. Cause when it's the entire server's prime time, there's 2-3 bar pop (sometimes even locked pop) for all 3 factions (and red is still turtling for whatever reason). I'm going to wager that the pop bars are sitting at 1 for blue and yellow while red has 2+. That's not really a fair fight. It;s not that our oceanic players are bad, it's that they don't have the numbers so it essentially does become a PvKeep in a sense. You're not fighting blue and yellow players. You're fighting blue and yellow NPC's.

I know that this isn't going to stop it from happening, but please realize that you literally have 0 competition due to numbers during this time. So stop trying to pretend that you're good because, like I said and like we've all seen, the only thing red is good for during the day is feeding the other two alliances AP.

Agrippa_Invisus

GRxKnight wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

I'm sorry, I was too busy attempting (and occasionally succeeding) at stealing scrolls yesterday during high population hours to farm.

Between that and flipping keeps to keep the EP score up during prime time (we were at BRK, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, Warden, Glademist, and Bloodmayne), I'm not really sure how that qualifies for your statement.

I think you're unaware of everything we do, because a) it doesn't always affect AD, and b) because I'm not keen to appraise you of my day to day activities.

Actually Rylana is correct. During prime time, I only see red doing something on the map maybe once an hour, and that excludes flipping outposts. We all have kill counter; we know when resources, outposts, and keeps flip. And more often than not, it's either reading Daggerfall, or Aldmeri on my screen.

EP tried last night to get the scroll back and failed (at 11 EST). I logged off to go play league with my friends, then logged back on for my hirling mats and found that we still had all the scrolls we started the day with (this was around 1 AM EST). It wasn't until I logged on this morning that I see EP with the majority of the scrolls. So points for trying I guess.

And for those of the EP that say "well you guys flip the map when it's not our prime time" well, what's the pop like when it's you guys' prime time. Cause when it's the entire server's prime time, there's 2-3 bar pop (sometimes even locked pop) for all 3 factions (and red is still turtling for whatever reason). I'm going to wager that the pop bars are sitting at 1 for blue and yellow while red has 2+. That's not really a fair fight. It;s not that our oceanic players are bad, it's that they don't have the numbers so it essentially does become a PvKeep in a sense. You're not fighting blue and yellow players. You're fighting blue and yellow NPC's.

I know that this isn't going to stop it from happening, but please realize that you literally have 0 competition due to numbers during this time. So stop trying to pretend that you're good because, like I said and like we've all seen, the only thing red is good for during the day is feeding the other two alliances AP.

I know I've asked this question before -- who are you again?

mjspnrb18_ESO

GRxKnight wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

I'm sorry, I was too busy attempting (and occasionally succeeding) at stealing scrolls yesterday during high population hours to farm.

Between that and flipping keeps to keep the EP score up during prime time (we were at BRK, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, Warden, Glademist, and Bloodmayne), I'm not really sure how that qualifies for your statement.

I think you're unaware of everything we do, because a) it doesn't always affect AD, and b) because I'm not keen to appraise you of my day to day activities.

Actually Rylana is correct. During prime time, I only see red doing something on the map maybe once an hour, and that excludes flipping outposts. We all have kill counter; we know when resources, outposts, and keeps flip. And more often than not, it's either reading Daggerfall, or Aldmeri on my screen.

EP tried last night to get the scroll back and failed (at 11 EST). I logged off to go play league with my friends, then logged back on for my hirling mats and found that we still had all the scrolls we started the day with (this was around 1 AM EST). It wasn't until I logged on this morning that I see EP with the majority of the scrolls. So points for trying I guess.

And for those of the EP that say "well you guys flip the map when it's not our prime time" well, what's the pop like when it's you guys' prime time. Cause when it's the entire server's prime time, there's 2-3 bar pop (sometimes even locked pop) for all 3 factions (and red is still turtling for whatever reason). I'm going to wager that the pop bars are sitting at 1 for blue and yellow while red has 2+. That's not really a fair fight. It;s not that our oceanic players are bad, it's that they don't have the numbers so it essentially does become a PvKeep in a sense. You're not fighting blue and yellow players. You're fighting blue and yellow NPC's.

I know that this isn't going to stop it from happening, but please realize that you literally have 0 competition due to numbers during this time. So stop trying to pretend that you're good because, like I said and like we've all seen, the only thing red is good for during the day is feeding the other two alliances AP.

Man you guys keep talking about our "Amazingly overwhelming 2 bar pop" during night when we cap the map, here's a fact, its a group of 12 people max, who are very bored and don't PVE and would rather not stop playing just because you all went beddy byes, stop crying holy crap grow a pair and deal with it without so many tears

GRxKnight

But who's defending. No one. You're essentially PvE'ing in a PvP zone when you do that though. Dress it up however you want. "It's in Cyrodiil, the PvP zone. We're capping a keep. We're sieging. We're taking scrolls." Point is, if there's no resistance, or no one defending the objective, it's not much of an accomplishment now is it. Yeah we would all like to be able to ninja keeps and scrolls without having to worry about any resistance because that's the easy way and everyone loves taking the easy route in this game. But what's more satisfying is capping one of these objectives with resistance because not only does it show skill, the offense tick you get is that much higher. And as a side note we do deal with it by slamming it down red's throats the next day because, well, red is trash in the day. Please tell me exactly what red accomplishes during the day, because whenever I look at the map, it's yellow and blue with red sitting in a corner wondering which alliance is going to hit them next.

And Agrippa you think I care that one person doesn't know who I am? I'd rather be unknown on the map than known. At least then when I get in a dual with someone they don't know my strategy, my abilities, my movements. Whereas if I go against you, Warz, Bitaken, Draq, Fengrush, or any other known player on this server, I can have a counter strategy ready because they're known players with trademark fighting strategies and habits. But if you must know I'm a member of TKO so more than likely you've seen me on the battlefield taking keeps and farming reds.

FENGRUSH

Grats Centech! Its about time DC manned up and crowned an emp.

I havent been playing much the past week so draqs AP gain probably is taking a bit of a dive.

Rylana

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

On any given night Agrippa, EP is poplocked or at 3 bars around 11pm Central time, so is AD.

The difference is you guys will all sit in Chalman or whatever other keep youve designated as your farm of the day, and we would actually attempt to run the ring.

You guys never come out, its always a defensive fight.

Thats why I lose respect every time, your faction always avoids offensives or open field until we are logging out for the night, then steamroll the leftovers.

Its been about five weeks for this campaign, I have seen EP push for territory or emp exactly ONE TIME in primetime. Otherwise they are always backing up and concentrating into one spot.

There is nothing more annoying than a mega lag fest of 60 on 60 at one keep with capped siege and all. Weve even caused server rollbacks with this.

I'm sorry, I was too busy attempting (and occasionally succeeding) at stealing scrolls yesterday during high population hours to farm.

Between that and flipping keeps to keep the EP score up during prime time (we were at BRK, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, Warden, Glademist, and Bloodmayne), I'm not really sure how that qualifies for your statement.

I think you're unaware of everything we do, because a) it doesn't always affect AD, and b) because I'm not keen to appraise you of my day to day activities.

Actually Rylana is correct. During prime time, I only see red doing something on the map maybe once an hour, and that excludes flipping outposts. We all have kill counter; we know when resources, outposts, and keeps flip. And more often than not, it's either reading Daggerfall, or Aldmeri on my screen.

EP tried last night to get the scroll back and failed (at 11 EST). I logged off to go play league with my friends, then logged back on for my hirling mats and found that we still had all the scrolls we started the day with (this was around 1 AM EST). It wasn't until I logged on this morning that I see EP with the majority of the scrolls. So points for trying I guess.

And for those of the EP that say "well you guys flip the map when it's not our prime time" well, what's the pop like when it's you guys' prime time. Cause when it's the entire server's prime time, there's 2-3 bar pop (sometimes even locked pop) for all 3 factions (and red is still turtling for whatever reason). I'm going to wager that the pop bars are sitting at 1 for blue and yellow while red has 2+. That's not really a fair fight. It;s not that our oceanic players are bad, it's that they don't have the numbers so it essentially does become a PvKeep in a sense. You're not fighting blue and yellow players. You're fighting blue and yellow NPC's.

I know that this isn't going to stop it from happening, but please realize that you literally have 0 competition due to numbers during this time. So stop trying to pretend that you're good because, like I said and like we've all seen, the only thing red is good for during the day is feeding the other two alliances AP.

Man you guys keep talking about our "Amazingly overwhelming 2 bar pop" during night when we cap the map, here's a fact, its a group of 12 people max, who are very bored and don't PVE and would rather not stop playing just because you all went beddy byes, stop crying holy crap grow a pair and deal with it without so many tears

I think the primary issue is you never do anything until we do log out.

We are right there, he we are, at 10pm US time, and where can all of EP be found? Sitting in a keep expecting people to try to bang their head against it.

its boring. We eventually get bored, tired, sick of the siege vs the red zergball inside of keep X, time for sleep, and then AND ONLY THEN, does red leave their precious safe zone and come out to do anything else.

By that point its easy pickings because all of those people are now gone, no more worry no more hassle, am I right?

BossTuggles

Fengrush Inc. did not even really log in this weekend. So this is what we missed. The same two people on yellow stating they are strong. This has been noted and you will be put back into the dumpsters where you belong during the week.

P.S. People are still bitching about *** happening when they are sleeping. People aren't all East Coasters working 9-5's. *** use your heads.

Agrippa_Invisus

GRxKnight wrote: »

But if you must know I'm a member of TKO so more than likely you've seen me on the battlefield taking keeps and farming reds.

Nope. Can't say I have in any manner that leaves an impression.

Oh well. Doesn't really matter.

I neither require nor desire your appreciation. I've stated what we've done to press the EP cause in the last 24 hours and that's been sufficient enough for our Alliance mates, so is sufficient for myself.

Agrippa_Invisus

BossTuggles wrote: »

Fengrush Inc. did not even really log in this weekend. So this is what we missed. The same two people on yellow stating they are strong. This has been noted and you will be put back into the dumpsters where you belong during the week.

P.S. People are still bitching about *** happening when they are sleeping. People aren't all East Coasters working 9-5's. *** use your heads.

Hee Hee.

Never stop bossing, Tuggles.

1Otega

murtugo wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

As if any of the fun that occurred on a balanced server matters. Log in at 7 AM and the map is completely red. Is EP trying to come back into the campaign?

Won't happen. Your people are bad players. Whatever you take at night you can't hold during the day - and during prime time you're all just meat to be feasted on.

Another EP emp - grats to achieving nothing. EP using a balanced campaign to PvDoor emperors while everyone asleep is just a joke.

You're just complaining because EP exposed the mighty DC's weakness. Your Oceania/SEA players cannot defend your keeps. If you want to blame someone then blame your own Oceania/SEA team. Its not EPs fault that they are incompetent in defending your keeps. Don't blame EP for your weakness.

Advice from the Pact:

You should go to zone/QQ/world chat or whatever chat you find appropriate in DC zone and simply type this words:

"LF Oceanea/SEA players to help us defend our keeps from EP. Seriously guys they are laughing at us right now and we really need your help... please QQ"

Problem solved!

Happy to Help.

I'll pass the note along to the 5 Oceania members in EHJ to get their asses in gear.

Thanks for the heads up.

bitaken

Columba wrote: »

I seem to recall the DC "shunning" anyone who worked with EG when EG visited and tried to help you yesterday, so lol. Payback! Lose all your keeps for all I care.

Yeah no worries - got Emp - all 6 scrolls - All our keeps - and EP keeps - including Drakelowe. EG is not needed - or wanted on this server - tyvm.

Agrippa_Invisus

bitaken wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

I seem to recall the DC "shunning" anyone who worked with EG when EG visited and tried to help you yesterday, so lol. Payback! Lose all your keeps for all I care.

Yeah no worries - got Emp - all 6 scrolls - All our keeps - and EP keeps - including Drakelowe. EG is not needed - or wanted on this server - tyvm.

Oooh. Drama!

1Otega

On another note, can't we just agree to get everyone on the server who pvps in cyrodiil on at the same time come the weekend?

Just one, all out, Flint Michigan Mega Bowl style thunderdome brawl?

archon210

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

As if any of the fun that occurred on a balanced server matters. Log in at 7 AM and the map is completely red. Is EP trying to come back into the campaign?

Won't happen. Your people are bad players. Whatever you take at night you can't hold during the day - and during prime time you're all just meat to be feasted on.

Another EP emp - grats to achieving nothing. EP using a balanced campaign to PvDoor emperors while everyone asleep is just a joke.

bit stop the QQ it's beneath you

All he does is whine and moan about stupid ***. What do you guys think I've been dealing with for the past few weeks. Just a buncha crying when they don't get their way.

Kybotica

1Otega wrote: »

On another note, can't we just agree to get everyone on the server who pvps in cyrodiil on at the same time come the weekend?

Just one, all out, Flint Michigan Mega Bowl style thunderdome brawl?

If my work schedule allowed it, I'd be all over that. Only time that might work for me is after 9pm on Sunday this week. I think most of us would be all for it if we could find a time when it actually works.

On a side note, we had significant numbers of yellows assisting their defense last night, and about the same number of blues. Our group, at least was not larger than the ones we were fighting. Once the resistance died down to fewer than we had, most of us logged or went and played alts.

Ifthir_ESO

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

There were a good 15-20 (mostly V12, including Naw Sunrest) blues that chased us after we got Ni-Mohk out of the gate and if a single one of them had showed up at the temple, it would have doubled the number of defenders I saw when grabbing the scroll.

Naw Sunrest, you know, the Emperor of Bloodthorn that DC here on DB recruited to help them.

Bloodthorn, which has the highest Blue score of any server, if I am not mistaken. So his entire guild/guest crew has Emp/off/def scroll bonuses from guesting here.

Ifthir_ESO

archon210 wrote: »

All he does is whine and moan about stupid ***. What do you guys think I've been dealing with for the past few weeks. Just a buncha crying when they don't get their way.

That's why some of us like myself tend to back you on these forums over those loud idiots.

Agrippa_Invisus

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

There were a good 15-20 (mostly V12, including Naw Sunrest) blues that chased us after we got Ni-Mohk out of the gate and if a single one of them had showed up at the temple, it would have doubled the number of defenders I saw when grabbing the scroll.

Naw Sunrest, you know, the Emperor of Bloodthorn that DC here on DB recruited to help them.

Bloodthorn, which has the highest Blue score of any server, if I am not mistaken. So his entire guild/guest crew has Emp/off/def scroll bonuses from guesting here.

*motions to his own signature*

I'm quite aware.

He dies a lot faster now that he's only benefiting from the Former buffs over here, instead of full Emp.

Ifthir_ESO

GRxKnight wrote: »

lots of talking trash but saying nothing

Tell you what, pick your # of people, pick your team. Let EP/DC know. We'll have a field war of the best from each Alliance, and end this epeen waving for at least a little bit.