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A free respec is mandatory!
Morticielle
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Dear Zenimaxis,
you changed a lot in the last weeks, somethings for the better, mostly the opposite, but aside from the quality of your work: There has to be a free respec, because of the lot of changes, there are quite a lot of abilities or passives players would not spend points on again and would like to have their points back.
So I am demanding that you give us a free respec.
you changed a lot in the last weeks, somethings for the better, mostly the opposite, but aside from the quality of your work: There has to be a free respec, because of the lot of changes, there are quite a lot of abilities or passives players would not spend points on again and would like to have their points back.
So I am demanding that you give us a free respec.
Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand
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niocwy✭✭✭Why would you "demand" something ? It's their decision after all.
But I agree that a free respec wouldn't hut.Look at my profile picture. Visualize that muffin...smelling it...taking a bite...
Are you hungry now ?
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The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭I demand people stop demanding things! Because that logic will work.
A respec is a given if an entire class is changed, or a whole skill line is adjusted. Individual spell resets would be ideal and are typically utilised in most games.. But it's a foreign concept in ESO apparently."Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
Casually stalking the forums4 -
OrangeTheCat✭✭✭✭✭
✭You? You are demanding? DEMANDING? LOL! Who the heck are YOU?
But a free respec would be nice but by no means is it mandatory. Furthermore, I do think it should be a lot cheaper, like 50% cheaper.2 -
hamon✭✭✭✭✭
✭The_Sadist wrote: »I demand people stop demanding things! Because that logic will work.
A respec is a given if an entire class is changed, or a whole skill line is adjusted. Individual spell resets would be ideal and are typically utilised in most games.. But it's a foreign concept in ESO apparently.
untrue, they gave us respecs last time for passives they changed etc.... this time nothing. if we want to change or remove the passive they changed its 24k .. thats terrible imo
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niocwy✭✭✭Respec cost have been an issue since Day 1 anyway. There have been no talk by ZOS officials about a change.
Look at my profile picture. Visualize that muffin...smelling it...taking a bite...
Are you hungry now ?
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only one respec? lol in the last week, for all these problems I have respec 4 times. now I must do another one for this patch.
I don't want controversy, but Zenimax , for me, should in addition to this, also give us a few days of subscription.2 -
Asava✭✭✭OrangeTheCat wrote: »You? You are demanding? DEMANDING? LOL! Who the heck are YOU?
But a free respec would be nice but by no means is it mandatory. Furthermore, I do think it should be a lot cheaper, like 50% cheaper.
He is/was a paying customer. When a company changes multiple abilities 2-3 months AFTER release its normal for them to reset everyone's skills that it affects. Usually it's done by class but this game is different so it should be everyone since it's not just class skills that got adjusted. If they don't then more people will just say F this game and quit. Frustration is running really high as it is. This could be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back for some who have been considering hitting the cancel account button.2 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about they give everybody 24k gold, those of us who don't care can pocket the gold.[DC/NA]3 -
vanillexhope✭✭✭No one is saying a respec wouldn't be nice. However, this thread reeks of entitlement. Why not ask politely? Isn't it just human decency and politeness to ask instead of demand?6 -
Natjur✭✭✭✭✭
✭Respect is mandatory, a free respec....would be nice.
I don't think they have code in place to do so, last one was a database search and update and causes issues. People not getting the correct number of skill points back, which they then fixed a hot patch later.
How would you feel if ever player got a full skill reset. All points back and had to re-pick your skills again. Would suck if you camped out someone near a mob, as you would be unable to attack (no skills) when you first got back in.Edited by Natjur on June 27, 2014 12:09AM0 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭untrue, they gave us respecs last time for passives they changed etc.... this time nothing. if we want to change or remove the passive they changed its 24k .. thats terrible imo
Do people not read?
I mentioned individual skill resets would be ideal. However, a whole respec purely because a few spells were changed won't happen and isn't logical. Lastly, we didn't get respecs last time, we got refunds in specific skills, there's a difference.Edited by The_Sadist on June 27, 2014 12:12AM"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
Casually stalking the forums1 -
This game is NOT a free to play. WE ARE PAYING TO PLAY. we are paying a bugged product. many of us have stopped playing, I and my friends are VERY close to do. It's NO correct at present continue to pay for a game that doesn't work. I'm not saying that it should become a free to play, for goodness sake, but for all of these issues who has paid and is paying must to be refunded!Edited by Borak_Bloodaxe on June 27, 2014 12:17AM1
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necrolineage✭✭✭Borak_Bloodaxe wrote: »only one respec? lol in the last week, for all these problems I have respec 4 times. now I must do another one for this patch.
I don't want controversy, but Zenimax , for me, should in addition to this, also give us a few days of subscription.
+1 My subscription end in a few days i will no more subscribe for this broken game !Edited by necrolineage on June 27, 2014 12:19AM3 -
ozgod22_eso✭✭✭I do think that they need to revisit the way respecs are done in this game. It's the process that is leading to the high costs - the fact that to change a couple of skills or morphs you have to pay to change everything. That's where the feeling of injustice comes in - players want to tweak their build, not completely redo it, but they have to pay an all-or-nothing fee to do so.
It's probably a coding issue as someone mentioned - 4 years ago you had to do the same thing in WoW if you wanted to change one of your talents, but the way it was done was that the cost for doing so increased as you kept respeccing. Same as in SWTOR. These days in WoW you can respec by talent/skill, and for a pretty low cost. Because the trend is moving towards giving players more flexibility to try and experiment with different builds depending on different situations. Some talents/skills may be better for levelling, others may be better for PvP, some hybrid specs may choose to play a tank role one week and a dps role another week. It's all part of helping players enjoy the game the way they wish to play.
But what about those people who say "but but but you need to have consequences to your actions, if you picked poorly you need to pay a penalty to change". Many times people didn't pick poorly, they picked a skill based on how they thought it would suit their playstyle but either it didn't, or it got changed, or another morph got changed after they picked the skill.
Or maybe the morph they picked (and it's really morphs that are the issue, not skills) was perfect when they were levelling as dps (because it's easier to level as dps) but when they got to max level and decided they wanted to heal instead of dps and wanted to pick a different morph. Or maybe their Trial group needed an extra healer to get through a progression fight. There are many valid reasons for tweaking your build. Even more so since this game positions itself as having the freedom to "play how you want", no set roles and all classes can perform all roles. Yes they can as long as you never change your role once you pick it. If you do it'll cost you 12-20k each time you change.
I think there are many many ways that you can put in money sinks in the game without having something as annoying as this. You can charge people to change their hairstyle, you can charge people to buy pets, there's tons of things you can do to part players from their money. This is just annoying and frustrating.3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭I make a little bit of gold, and instead of being able to spend it on more space or whatever, I have to dump it into resetting all my skills just so I can change a couple. Yea, that's totally legit.
Not to mention that every way to make gold is nerfed thanks to the cheaters.Edited by SFBryan18 on June 27, 2014 12:32AM4 -
kaosodin✭✭✭✭There not going to give a respec every patch. I bet they will in 30 days after a patch or 20 -
Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Morticielle wrote: »Dear Zenimaxis,
you changed a lot in the last weeks, somethings for the better, mostly the opposite, but aside from the quality of your work: There has to be a free respec, because of the lot of changes, there are quite a lot of abilities or passives players would not spend points on again and would like to have their points back.
So I am demanding that you give us a free respec.
What if they don't, huh? What are you gonna do about it? Terms of Service say you aren't allowed to make demands so you broke a rule.
Can I have all your stuff when you RQ?
Within; Without.2 -
hk11✭✭✭✭All respecs should be free in a game where you pay for a subscription.
Just my opinion. Respecs should not be a favor.Edited by hk11 on June 27, 2014 12:52AM5 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would appreciate a free respec very much. Although wouldn't demand one.Edited by Orchish on July 7, 2014 2:19PM1 -
TrevorOC✭If you ignore the ZeniMax Zealots, a free respec. for such significant changes seems just, and would be appreciated by probably most everyone.3
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ozgod22_eso✭✭✭If you ignore the ZeniMax Zealots, a free respec. for such significant changes seems just, and would be appreciated by probably most everyone.
What I don't understand about the Zenimax Zealots who argue against even constructive changes to the game is how would changing the respec process affect them? Why so strident against this change? I don't see how it affects other people if people could respec by morph or skill point or line.1 -
Fuzzylumpkins✭✭✭✭Offering a skill respec is beyond their ability. How something of this nature wasn't thought of previously with all of the constant bi monthly nerfs and changes to abilities /facepalm1
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Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Free respec or at least let us have a smaller fee for swapping single morphs. For my Sorc you just changed many morphs (usually the ones I was not using) and now to try them out I have to spend 25k and then probably another 25k to swap back again.
Previously the patch notes would say something about automatically resetting your morph for skills that were changed, but I guess they gave up on that.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points1 -
vanillexhope wrote: »No one is saying a respec wouldn't be nice. However, this thread reeks of entitlement. Why not ask politely? Isn't it just human decency and politeness to ask instead of demand?
It "reeks" of entitlement because we are entitled. We pay to play the game. They change (sometimes drastically) abilities we use, yet expect us to blow upwards of 20k+ just to changes our specs. That's pathetic. And it would be "polite" and "decent" to either give a free respec or at least respec whatever skills they modify and nerf.3 -
Mescalamba✭✭✭IMHO, respec in this game is really pain. That design is good only in one thing, thats preventing people from actually trying new things.
I think if it was some reasonable flat rate based on your level, it would be kinda "fair-ish".
Never had such issues with "locked" skills like in this game. Then I never had such issues as with inventory management as in this game.
I get that they want us to pay as long as possible, while slowing us down any way possible, but they should realize, that there is some breaking point, when you just unsub and go.
Those issues are cumulative. There will be one proverbial last drop.. and bye ESO.
Directly towards topic.. yea there should be free respec. I dont like "free" things, but they change a lot in patches and even change probably more in the future.Proud owner of personal vampire and werewolf army (4 werewolves/4 vampires)..
I'm also using large doses of irony and sarcasm.
Plus Im mean person, cause I really dont have reason to like you. Or anyone.2 -
vanillexhope✭✭✭Actually, you CHOOSE to continue paying. You can stop at anytime. The devs need feedback. They don't need whiny posts like this. All it does is prove just how immature and entitled some MMO players are. The devs are human. You would never speak like this to them in real life, so why is it acceptable online? There are so many ways to convey this message that are constructive but polite. If this is how some of you act in real life, I'm sorry for you and the people who put up with you.
On a positive note, it's been my experience that most games get better with time. When I'm not happy with a game, I take a break and maybe come back later.Edited by vanillexhope on June 27, 2014 2:33AM3 -
slackmare✭✭respec for sure....i totally gave up puncturing strikes as a templar early on for better hotbar real eastate. Now with healing added to a morph, i would actually toss that on my hotbar for a try, probably even keep it....not gonna waste 40k (20k to respec...20k if i hate it) just to see if the change THEY made is worth it.
SKILL LINE respec for drastic update changes SHOULD just be practical practice. Its almost like buying a car from a sleazy salesman, only to find you bought a lemon. Leaves the same bitter taste in my mouth.
3 card monte anyone?Edited by slackmare on June 27, 2014 3:02AM2
