Zenimax as an MMO Maker

WebBull

I have finally hit my point of max frustration with this game. From a heavy supporter to finally coming to the realization that they have absolutely no clue about running an MMO. The game is unplayable, especially in PvP.

It hit me today when I saw the "Patch v.1.2.3 Known Issues" thread. The know issues list is longer than the original patch notes. They broke more than they fixed. You hear that expression all the time but it is almost always an exaggeration. In this case they really did break more than fixed.

This list doesn't even cover everything. I appreciate them putting this list together so what we know what is going on. What I don't understand is why it is tucked away under Developer Discussions.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Below is a list of known issues for patch v1.2.3. Many of these are directly from your feedback and reports in-game and here on the official forums. Others are things we were working on before patch v1.2.3 and will roll out a fix for soon.

Thank you for helping us to identify these issues so quickly. You will see a status below each issue. We’ll update this thread as we have more info on each.


ALLIANCE WAR

• Forward Camps: We are tracking several separate issues with Forward Camps. These include disappearing range indicators, Forward Camps being removed from the map prematurely, or not visible on the map at all.
  • STATUS: Currently testing fixes for all issues to be released in a future patch
• PvP Scrolls: We are tracking some issues with PvP scrolls. They are periodically disappearing from Scroll Keeps, and are occasionally not interactable by anyone in any alliance. There are also times when the scroll bonuses are not working.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• FPS Drop Issue: There are reports of FPS drops in larger battles in select campaigns including Wabbajack.
  • STATUS: To be fixed on Monday, 6/30
• One-Shots in Cyrodiil: We’ve seen reports that some of you believe you are being one-shotted, but cannot determine how or why.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating and testing a fix
• Issues with Cyrodiil Terrain: Some player characters are able to climb rocks and walls to get into enemy starter areas.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Teleports to Safe Areas: You are not teleported back to your alliance’s starting area when entering the Northern Morrowind Gate and the Southern High Rock Gate.
  • STATUS: To be fixed on Monday, 6/30

COMBAT & GAMEPLAY

• Undocumented Racial Passive & Item Set Changes: Some racial passives and item sets were recently changed in Update 2 with no documentation.
  • STATUS: Patch notes posted on 6/26
• Player Character Getting Stuck In Place: We’ve seen reports that you can occasionally get stuck, unable to move or attack, though hitting ESC twice seems to fix this as a temporary workaround.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Rapid Maneuver: There are reports that this ability is no longer working while mounted on your horse. This is a bug, not an intended change.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Fiery Grip: Using this ability in Cyrodiil can pull enemies off keep walls.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating and testing a fix
• Magicka Flood: This ability is reportedly not fixed as noted.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Fire Clench: The knockback for this ability can be triggered repeatedly, and the ability can also trigger falling damage.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating and testing a fix
• Haste: Using this ability with ranged weapons is not fixed.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Honor the Dead: This ability is reportedly still broken.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Werewolf Devour: This ability reportedly still has a cooldown.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Werewolf Transformation Fix: There are reports that werewolves are still reverted back into human form and unable to use light or heavy attacks, or switch weapons.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Silver Shards: This ability is doing more damage than it should be.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Weapon Swapping Breaking Stealth: Swapping weapons while you are stealthed breaks your stealth for a few seconds, notably with item sets with weapons.
  • STATUS: Testing a fix to be rolled out in a future patch

CRAFTING & ECONOMY

• Racial Motifs & Provisioning Recipes: These now have a value of zero gold. However, this was an unintended change and will be reverted back so they can be sold at a vendor for gold.
  • STATUS: Hotfix applied on 6/25
• Jerkins Requiring Breeches To Be Made: There is currently no toggle feature to change between robes and jerkins, and breeches must be made to replace a robe.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating

DUNGEONS & TRIALS

• Aetherian Archive Teleport Pads: The teleport pads on the first island in Aetherian Archive do not remain active after their first use.
  • STATUS: Currently testing a fix to be released for a future patch
• Razak’s Wheel, The Mystery of Razak: This quest can occasionally fail to award the quest reward Razak’s Toy Spider.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Volenfell, Blood and Sand: Levers can become unresponsive if someone in your group is left behind.
  • STATUS: Working on a fix to be released for a future patch

MISCELLANEOUS

• No XP Gains: Some of you are reporting that you’re not seeing any XP, VP, or AP gains, though rebooting occasionally seems to fix this and the XP “catches up.” This seems to be a UI issue and may be caused by out-of-date addons.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Razor Naga and Logitech Wireless Mouse: The middle mouse button is no longer working for these select mice.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Groupmates Not In Same Instance: Player characters are not ending up in the same instance as the rest of their group if the leader starts the instance before a group is created, and other player characters enter after the group is created.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating and testing a potential fix
• Game Does Not Launch: This appears to be related to some antivirus programs. Turning the antivirus program off is a confirmed workaround.

QUESTS

• Coldharbour, The Final Assault: Porting out of the Molag Bal fight will make the portal not interactable.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Deshaan, School Daze: You occasionally cannot interact with the spheres associated with this quest.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Fighters Guild: Sees-All-Colors will sometimes not walk into the portal to advance the quest step “Wait for Sees-All-Colors.”
  • STATUS: Currently testing a fix to be released for a future patch
• Fighters Guild, Will of the Council: This quest is not updating after you kill Aelif.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Cadwell’s Almanac: You cannot progress some quests in the Almanac if they are abandoned.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Halls of Torment: Taking the portal to the Halls of Torment before Lyris uses the portal will sometimes block you from progressing the quest.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Reaper’s March, Hadran’s Fall: Tand can occasionally become stuck in the slave cage on the quest step “Rescue Tand.”
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Shadowfen, And Throw Away the Key: Jurni will sometimes not appear for the quest step “Take Medical Supplies to the Tower.”
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Stonefalls, Shattering Mirror: You cannot interact with the Altar.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Stormhaven, Azura’s Relics: Vaermina’s Weaver will sometimes disappear, blocking your quest progress.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• The Rift, Stomping Sinmur: Sinmur heals to full when around half health, and ally NPCs can freeze and don’t progress through the quest.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.

UI

• On-Screen Notifications Not Working: We’ve seen reports that you may no longer be getting on-screen notifications for things such as picking up a new Skyshard, getting a dungeon boss achievement, etc.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating
• Names Dropping From UI: Loading into new zones and logging out sometimes causes group member names to drop out of the group UI.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.
• Addon Settings: The add-on settings currently are not working as intended.
  • STATUS: Currently investigating.

Anlaemar

Actualy no, the patch notes is longer. And I quote from your quote "Others are things we were working on before patch v1.2.3". That list isn't filled with things that got broke just because of the update. Some were known issues before the update. As for the breaking things with patches, give them time to wear things in. Game is still very young.

zgrssd

That is better then waht happened back with 1.1
Or that half day "nobody can login after patch" problem.
This is just normal post content update problems. And not nearly as bad as Eve's boot.ini fiasko.

So they are defintely getting better at this and fast too.

drogon1

Hyperbole is the stepmother of credibility.

SirAndy

drogon1 wrote: »

Hyperbole is the stepmother of credibility.

@drogon1
That is hands down the most insightful post i have ever seen on these forums!

Blackwidow

drogon1 wrote: »

Hyperbole is the stepmother of credibility.

ROFLMAO! QFT.

However, he does have a point.

These patches need to be tested better before released.