Sorceres: Do you think the minions are usefull in your skillsbar?

dirk1897

Hi there ^_^
What do you think about to insert the 2 minions in your sorcerer skillbar?
Do you think they are usefull o that they are just 2 wasted slot in your skillsbar?
Now i'am using a breton 25lv sorcerer with the 2 minnions setted and the DStaff, and for now they seens usefull for levelling but i'am not sure ....

What do you think about it?

crislevin

you mean pets?

Audigy

The pets need some further adjustments.

In my opinion they should be a reliable source of help in combat, especially VR territories.
Our "bat" could be a healer with CC, the little "raptor" how I like to call her could be more tanky etc.

Right now they are an addition, but nothing more sadly.

crislevin

it will take some practice, volatile familiar may be a good ranged AoE (400 damage)+stun(2s) if used properly.

Now they can sneak, they may have a larger role in pvp as well.

mndfreeze

My Clanfear works pretty well as a tanky pet, so far up to vet 2 which is where I'm at. Obviously it is not an all powerful 'wow tank forever and never die' pet, but enough to keep initial group agro's off me so I can nuke the hizell out of whatever im going after and kill it before it hits me or kills my lil tanky dino.

The twilight however needs a massive buff to be useful. I dont use her anymore

dirk1897

crislevin wrote: »

you mean pets?

Yep ^_^

KarlosTheGrouch

they are pretty much useless..... sadly...

Die to quickly and no damage at all

kimboh

I was using them in lower levels but now in VR I don't, I'm built for single target crit DD and regen. Sometimes I will slot the winged twighlight as a backup heals for open dungs or soloing world bosses.

Spiritreaver_ESO

mndfreeze wrote: »

My Clanfear works pretty well as a tanky pet, so far up to vet 2 which is where I'm at. Obviously it is not an all powerful 'wow tank forever and never die' pet, but enough to keep initial group agro's off me so I can nuke the hizell out of whatever im going after and kill it before it hits me or kills my lil tanky dino.

The twilight however needs a massive buff to be useful. I dont use her anymore

Agree with this completely. I throw on Conjured Ward and its pretty much easy mode +1.

Though it is also kinda the reason my Sorc is languishing in VR atm and i'm alting it up.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

KarlosTheGrouch wrote: »

they are pretty much useless..... sadly...

Die to quickly and no damage at all

My Resto staff VR3 has only ever used the clannfear, and that makes a perfectly viable meat shield which is all I ask it to be, I don't consider it for its DPS.

kewl

I miss you Booberry!

Montanabum

Pets are where it is at! I played a Sorcerer/hunter with my bow for lvls 1-50 and nothing but stamina/magicka abilities in my quickslots.. Got to VR land and started to get pounded pretty bad. I totally revamped my play style and now run with 2 pets.. My bat heals me and attacks.. my clannifer tanks.. I shield both and boost their dmg output for 20 seconds at a time with conjured ward while rooting mobs with bombard and taking out the rest with critical hits.. I seriously love this setup with them for PvE mobs.. I am VR5 so far and haven't run into any trouble at all.

Tabbycat

I like my pets for solo questing. They are useful for that. With the new pet changes, they might be useful for other things as well. As my sorc is not at VR yet, I don't know how useful they will be for veteran leveling.

Woolenthreads

2 Summons are good until you finally obtain Daedric Armour after which you only have 2 slots on each skill bar available for other effects. I think that the Summoned Armour is quite good. The Clannfear lasts a reasonable amount of time but the Twilight is only good if you need additional range damage, it's rather weak otherwise.

I came to the conclusion that having the 3 summons on both the bars took away too many options and dropped it to Daedric Armour and the Clannfear. Keep in mind, that I didn't want to construct a Storm Mage, I wanted to play a Dark Magic Mage. Unfortunately the second best DM Spell (Well I think Crystal Shards is 2nd best anyway) is one of the costliest to cast if you are just spamming .

dirk1897

And what the 1" DM spell is?

kitsinni

I think now that you can tell them to attack they are a bit more usefull. You can send you clanfear in and let him get agro which at least lets you throw a couple attacks down before they run after you. At low levels having them both out makes soloing a breeze.

Falmer

At lower levels, they are a life saver. As you level up though, there are far better options. Their biggest drawback is that they take up 2 skill slots each. Skill slots is a valuable resource in this game.

They should change the pets to be a 20 min timer skill. That way we could put them on hotbar #2... cast them and then switch back to our combat hotbar, the way every other class does with their timed skills.

SFBryan18

I have the volatile familiar, and I really like that it distracts the AI in PvE, but I know it won't be very useful against real people. Still, I only need a few abilities to actually do well so I feel it is worth having the mini tank for now.

mndfreeze

I don't see how anyone can be just one "type" of sorc? The best builds and even just the best throw together yourself stuff always seems to be to mix skills from all the trees.

In my 1-50 when I was more summoning I used both pets and a ward, then crystal shards and elemental fury for my primary bar, with resto staff stuff (and my 2 pets of course) on the second.

In VR when I ditched most of my summoning I kept the clanfear on both bars, but now use elemental fury, crystal shards, volcanic rune, and critical surge. With Resto staff heals and my vamp drain + a CC abilitiy (I switch around between encase and the rune CC)

Of course at vr level I have just about every passive and a ton more skills level'ed when I use on my bar, this is just my current bar. It gets switched around a lot depending on situation. Like a group dungeon or pvp.

Wifeaggro13

Very little control of pets . Its primarily the problem with them. that and the limited type. If we had the ability to summon Necromancy , flesh bone golems and Undead. it would add some better uses . Like most of the systems in ESO they are lacking and incomplete imagine that.

DenverRalphy

Early levels I ran with both until my Destro Staff skills were competent. Once I hit VR1, I re-spec'd and kept only the clannfear for soloing. In a group I drop the pet in favor of magelight.

SilverWF

"Do you think the minions are usefull in your skillsbar?"
At VR12 - not, absolutely not.

Hilgara

Never use pets. You have 5 buttons and every one of them needs to have something effective. I f I had 10 buttons pets still wouldn't make it on the list.

SystemiK

I have a lvl 29 Sorc but I absolutely refuse to run with a pet, not ever. And to all you *** who keep your flappy pet out in the bank....eat me.

phairdon

Use them all the time. Nice for distracting groups of enemy & with the targeting system the enemy focus on them more often than not, making my job of taking them down easier. The winged twilight can be a useful healing aid too.

midnight_tea

I'm a VR12 sorc and I still use my clannfear often to absorb damage and draw attention from me. With resto/rapid regen (+volcanic rune + endless fury + crystal fragments) on bar to keep it and myself alive I've beaten most of VR zones (I'm a completionist and completed probably 95% of PvE content).

Magdalina

Before vet content(or even before vet buff which happened when I was entering vet 2 zone), I always used both my pets - very useful. Clannie tanks, Twilight does some dps plus she was the OH *** heal for me. In vet now, unfortunately, Twilight dies from one missed heavy attack, so I find her pretty much useless. Altho I did see a sorc running around with both pets and my, did she kick ass with them.

There're different viable strategies there, see for yourself. Try stuff out. Me, at vet 9 I still have Clannfear on both bars. Free tank who has like twice my health, can easily be shielded and just as easily resummoned. His damage sucks and doesn't seem to scale with level(which it should IMO, his health does, for one), but as a tank I find him priceless in most fights. Plus, I just like him, he's cute:)

FrauPerchta

KarlosTheGrouch wrote: »

they are pretty much useless..... sadly...

Die to quickly and no damage at all

This! As such I don't use "pets", I prefer the Magic they eat so I can cause damage

phairdon

Magdalina wrote: »

Before vet content(or even before vet buff which happened when I was entering vet 2 zone), I always used both my pets - very useful. Clannie tanks, Twilight does some dps plus she was the OH *** heal for me. In vet now, unfortunately, Twilight dies from one missed heavy attack, so I find her pretty much useless. Altho I did see a sorc running around with both pets and my, did she kick ass with them.

There're different viable strategies there, see for yourself. Try stuff out. Me, at vet 9 I still have Clannfear on both bars. Free tank who has like twice my health, can easily be shielded and just as easily resummoned. His damage sucks and doesn't seem to scale with level(which it should IMO, his health does, for one), but as a tank I find him priceless in most fights. Plus, I just like him, he's cute:)

Could be a good thing the familiars do not scale with level as it really would give sorcerers a massive advantage over other classes in this game. We have enough groaning about how easy life is with a dress & a stick.

Katarina

I'd never slot two pets at once because it'd take out 20% of my max magicka, so that one slot is either for the clannfear/inner light/bound aegis. The winged twilight makes annoying sounds and has very low health (it also takes longer to summon) so I don't use that.

The clannfear could divert some attention against me, or "tank" an enemy while I burst them down or take care of another (although there are times where he'd just sit there). If your enemy uses one of those magic suppression force-fields, then it'll die the moment it walks in. Also it has a tendency of behaving like Leeroy Jenkins every now and then.

If I have to solo a public dungeon then I'll switch to bound armour or inner light, cause the familiar won't have that much of an impact then.

Gedalya

I love my minions; I'm disappointed only that there are so few choices. I am hoping that they add Necromancy as a class with the ability to summon Ghosts & Skeletons; and more!