Due to Poor Design, my chracter is Stuck.

KariTR · June 2014

Mablung wrote: »

KariTR wrote: »

Get your wife to play your character for you?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

How are posts like this even remotely helpful?

You know, as much as some people hate to admit it, there are skills involved to this gaming hobby of ours and it is a fact that some gamers pick up some skills easier that others. I don't feel belittled that in one of the Tomb Raider games I had to ask my flatmate to jump Lara over some pillars because I simply couldn't get from one end of the dungeon to the other (he did it first time).

The OP says his wife is having no problem, so to suggest she plays the OP's character to get him over this bump was not being unhelpful at all. It was good advice!

ETA re: wife having no problem. It is my experience that women handle 'death' in MMOs far better than men generally and are less likely to pull our hair out in frustration over same. Jumping on the other hand...

Kulrig · June 2014

KariTR wrote: »

The OP says his wife is having no problem, so to suggest she plays the OP's character to get him over this bump was not being unhelpful at all. It was good advice!

Still hilarious, though.

poodlemasterb16_ESO · June 2014

My son is a VR1 NB and this is the first non shooter he has ever played. He is amazing at the game. I may know more and understand quite a bit more about how things work but he can play the sucker just fine. It helps that shooters give you 'circle strafe' and he is always moving.

I feed him a few things from my crafters and he kicks back higher end goodies. I'm leveling an army. Today is level and get skill points for crafters and that will take all day. He is a vampire NB and I have to get him some fire resist. I just started making 'Song of Lamae' 5 piece sets and that should help quite a bit as well.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2014

Your failure to complete the content you are given is not a problem with the class or the design of the game..

kaosodin · June 2014

I have a nb dual weild... I got stuck at 49, I grinded the last level.

Phinix1 · June 2014

Fleymark wrote: »

A lot of people have taken the whole "play your way" thing too literally.

This.

I am sorry you are not having fun with your build OP. However you yourself have stated you aren't really using your class skills, so as others have said, it isn't really the class that is the problem. If I tried to play my sorcerer using only staff abilities I would have serious problems.

"Play what you want how you want" has a hidden IMPLIED clause to it, which is "within reason." I am sorry but I do not believe that ignoring a class' abilities altogether and then claiming to do otherwise is a "cookie cutter" build is being very reasonable. That is why there are three separate class skill trees to choose from.

I like to play my character the way I want as well, and do. Yet if I decided to equip a fishing trophy as a weapon, put all my skill points into provisioning, and /dance while wearing a pink dress, I can't reasonably expect to be the greatest tank in the land just because of one overly abused press statement, can I?

No. Not in this game, and not in any other.

Good news is there are plenty of helpful people out there on this site and others that will be more than happy to help you with your build. But you have to be willing to compromise a bit as well. That is part of the game too: Adaptation, improvisation...

Mablung · June 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

KariTR wrote: »

Get your wife to play your character for you?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

How are posts like this even remotely helpful? The OP is frustrated with his class. It is not working with the 'play as you want' idea that was used in selling the game. Attacking him and insulting him is the most detrimental thing you can do for this game. Drive him away. Keep making posts of this nature and you two will be the only ones left playing this game.

How about you offer some insight as to how you successfully made it through the part he is talking about? How about you offer build suggestions? Anything other than what you initially posted.

you are correct.

and by the way, the reason he canot offer suggestions and help is because he is not nor ever was a nightblade, infact, from the comments he has made, i am quite sure he has never even played elderscrolls online.

Holy Dibella! I just realized that my VR11 Nightblade is actually a DK! The wool has been lifted from my eyes!
/sarcasm

I'm happy to post my build and hotbar loadout (as I have many times before) for you to examine. I'm also happy to explain how I solo every quest in VR. Except every time I do that, all the "Dual wield NB is broken!" posters mysteriously go silent...

Provide links to your build or other posts where you have done this as opposed to simply insulting and essentially stating its a L2P issue.

So what if you are a better player than the OP or anyone else chiming in about how its his fault. So what if it is. Extend the helping hand or pipe down and say nothing,especially if you have nothing nice to say.

I have a VR9 Nightblade, DW/Bow but you do not see me attacking him or attempting to discredit his experience.

Fleymark wrote: »

Well, I love my archer nightblade and am always happy to offer advice or, at least, share what has worked for me and I think we can be nice about it, but I tend to agree.

Passive aggressiveness does not hide the intent of insult. We should be nice but I agree that you are a noob or not as 1337 as me. That is what you basically are saying to the OP

Fleymark wrote: »

A lot of people have taken the whole "play your way" thing too literally. You still need to deal with realities of the game like self healing and dealing with multiple mobs regardless of how you spec and once you decide what your basic build vision is you need to throw the kitchen sink at it in terms of passives and supporting class and guild abilities because this game is designed around incremental building.

Another cop out statement by an apologist as well as a subtle L2P comment.

Fleymark wrote: »

And it's not fair to those of us who are successful with a particular build to have our build get a bad rap by people who either refuse to alter the way they play for their own benefit or who are so rigid about their vision of their build that they just refuse to address things like healing and cc/aoe. It makes it harder for us to get groups when we need them when there is nothing wrong with our class or build.

Critiquing his play style when you obviously have very little information to go on. He states its a few quests and that he has been just fine with everything else. Why would he think its his build when he has had so much success? I would assume the complete opposite from what you assume. I mean your use of the word 'people' really means 'you, the OP' when taken in context of the post correct? Or are you ranting?

Fleymark wrote: »

I learned the hard way in my mid 20s...If the main story quest is not letting you pass then that's the game's way of letting you know that it's time to reevaluate your build and tactics.

I am sure someone walked 20 miles up a mountain through the snow, descending into a hot sandy plateau to get to school as well. Thank goodness they don't post here.

Mablung · June 2014

KariTR wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

KariTR wrote: »

Get your wife to play your character for you?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

How are posts like this even remotely helpful?

You know, as much as some people hate to admit it, there are skills involved to this gaming hobby of ours and it is a fact that some gamers pick up some skills easier that others. I don't feel belittled that in one of the Tomb Raider games I had to ask my flatmate to jump Lara over some pillars because I simply couldn't get from one end of the dungeon to the other (he did it first time).

The OP says his wife is having no problem, so to suggest she plays the OP's character to get him over this bump was not being unhelpful at all. It was good advice!

ETA re: wife having no problem. It is my experience that women handle 'death' in MMOs far better than men generally and are less likely to pull our hair out in frustration over same. Jumping on the other hand...

And it would have been hard to use your example in the initial post as opposed to something shortened making it appear condescending at best?

When you supply the context, it makes a huge difference.

brandon · June 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Could you be more specific about your build?

I'm a dual wield/bow NB, and I leveled up that way. I use many of the same skills you do, and I primarily play as a stealth-based character. Feel free to link an ESOHead build to show me what your bars look like.

And again, I simply don't believe you've completed all the quests. You absolutely can't have done so. By the time I got halfway through Coldharbour, I hit VR1, and I skipped a bunch of early dolmens and world bosses. What you're describing is simply not possible.

Edited for above post and miscellaneous:
You're "ignoring class skills mostly"? That's your problem. And it's why it's hilarious that you're complaining that Nightblades are broken. If you aren't using the class skills, how can the class be at fault? And you don't invest in one particular skill line. By VR5, I'd hit 50 in every class skill line and been able to invest a point in most of the Nightblade skills and their morphs. I obviously can't use all of them all the time, but I have them available for when I need to change my bar loadout for a fight. Which is what you seem to not be doing.

Also, you do not need to respec in order to have a build that will survive solo. If you've spent as few skill points as you're indicating you have, you should have a massive bank of points available for other skills. And if you've spent them all, then you definitely have some skills you aren't using which could come in handy in all solo instances.

Thank you

poodlemasterb16_ESO · June 2014

Mablung wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

KariTR wrote: »

Get your wife to play your character for you?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

How are posts like this even remotely helpful? The OP is frustrated with his class. It is not working with the 'play as you want' idea that was used in selling the game. Attacking him and insulting him is the most detrimental thing you can do for this game. Drive him away. Keep making posts of this nature and you two will be the only ones left playing this game.

How about you offer some insight as to how you successfully made it through the part he is talking about? How about you offer build suggestions? Anything other than what you initially posted.

you are correct.

and by the way, the reason he canot offer suggestions and help is because he is not nor ever was a nightblade, infact, from the comments he has made, i am quite sure he has never even played elderscrolls online.

Holy Dibella! I just realized that my VR11 Nightblade is actually a DK! The wool has been lifted from my eyes!
/sarcasm

I'm happy to post my build and hotbar loadout (as I have many times before) for you to examine. I'm also happy to explain how I solo every quest in VR. Except every time I do that, all the "Dual wield NB is broken!" posters mysteriously go silent...

Provide links to your build or other posts where you have done this as opposed to simply insulting and essentially stating its a L2P issue.

So what if you are a better player than the OP or anyone else chiming in about how its his fault. So what if it is. Extend the helping hand or pipe down and say nothing,especially if you have nothing nice to say.

I have a VR9 Nightblade, DW/Bow but you do not see me attacking him or attempting to discredit his experience.

Fleymark wrote: »

Well, I love my archer nightblade and am always happy to offer advice or, at least, share what has worked for me and I think we can be nice about it, but I tend to agree.

Passive aggressiveness does not hide the intent of insult. We should be nice but I agree that you are a noob or not as 1337 as me. That is what you basically are saying to the OP

Fleymark wrote: »

A lot of people have taken the whole "play your way" thing too literally. You still need to deal with realities of the game like self healing and dealing with multiple mobs regardless of how you spec and once you decide what your basic build vision is you need to throw the kitchen sink at it in terms of passives and supporting class and guild abilities because this game is designed around incremental building.

Another cop out statement by an apologist as well as a subtle L2P comment.

Fleymark wrote: »

And it's not fair to those of us who are successful with a particular build to have our build get a bad rap by people who either refuse to alter the way they play for their own benefit or who are so rigid about their vision of their build that they just refuse to address things like healing and cc/aoe. It makes it harder for us to get groups when we need them when there is nothing wrong with our class or build.

Critiquing his play style when you obviously have very little information to go on. He states its a few quests and that he has been just fine with everything else. Why would he think its his build when he has had so much success? I would assume the complete opposite from what you assume. I mean your use of the word 'people' really means 'you, the OP' when taken in context of the post correct? Or are you ranting?

Fleymark wrote: »

I learned the hard way in my mid 20s...If the main story quest is not letting you pass then that's the game's way of letting you know that it's time to reevaluate your build and tactics.

I am sure someone walked 20 miles up a mountain through the snow, descending into a hot sandy plateau to get to school as well. Thank goodness they don't post here.

Well I did just come back from about 5 miles of mountain, that was fun, but took some energy.

The OP is not playing an NB as far as I can tell. I'm not sure what he's playing but it does not resemble the low level ones I am playing or my son's VR1 NB.

I'm sure, on the other hand, that you will be able to explain it all at great length ....

ipong926 · June 2014

Simple. You are not sneaky type & unqualified to join dark brotherhood and thieves guild.
You should change your class (joking)

Mablung · June 2014

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Well I did just come back from about 5 miles of mountain, that was fun, but took some energy.

The OP is not playing an NB as far as I can tell. I'm not sure what he's playing but it does not resemble the low level ones I am playing or my son's VR1 NB.

I'm sure, on the other hand, that you will be able to explain it all at great length ....

Ummm....you obviously did not read his post. He is playing a NB. Thanks for playing though.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2014

Mablung wrote: »

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Well I did just come back from about 5 miles of mountain, that was fun, but took some energy.

The OP is not playing an NB as far as I can tell. I'm not sure what he's playing but it does not resemble the low level ones I am playing or my son's VR1 NB.

I'm sure, on the other hand, that you will be able to explain it all at great length ....

Ummm....you obviously did not read his post. He is playing a NB. Thanks for playing though.

Well to be fair, he could be any class. He said he doesn't use any class skills. Strictly bow and dw. So while his character sheet says NB, he could be any class and have the same problem.

Mablung · June 2014

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Well I did just come back from about 5 miles of mountain, that was fun, but took some energy.

The OP is not playing an NB as far as I can tell. I'm not sure what he's playing but it does not resemble the low level ones I am playing or my son's VR1 NB.

I'm sure, on the other hand, that you will be able to explain it all at great length ....

Ummm....you obviously did not read his post. He is playing a NB. Thanks for playing though.

Well to be fair, he could be any class. He said he doesn't use any class skills. Strictly bow and dw. So while his character sheet says NB, he could be any class and have the same problem.

Fleymark · June 2014

Mablung wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

KariTR wrote: »

Get your wife to play your character for you?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

How are posts like this even remotely helpful? The OP is frustrated with his class. It is not working with the 'play as you want' idea that was used in selling the game. Attacking him and insulting him is the most detrimental thing you can do for this game. Drive him away. Keep making posts of this nature and you two will be the only ones left playing this game.

How about you offer some insight as to how you successfully made it through the part he is talking about? How about you offer build suggestions? Anything other than what you initially posted.

you are correct.

and by the way, the reason he canot offer suggestions and help is because he is not nor ever was a nightblade, infact, from the comments he has made, i am quite sure he has never even played elderscrolls online.

Holy Dibella! I just realized that my VR11 Nightblade is actually a DK! The wool has been lifted from my eyes!
/sarcasm

I'm happy to post my build and hotbar loadout (as I have many times before) for you to examine. I'm also happy to explain how I solo every quest in VR. Except every time I do that, all the "Dual wield NB is broken!" posters mysteriously go silent...

Provide links to your build or other posts where you have done this as opposed to simply insulting and essentially stating its a L2P issue.

So what if you are a better player than the OP or anyone else chiming in about how its his fault. So what if it is. Extend the helping hand or pipe down and say nothing,especially if you have nothing nice to say.

I have a VR9 Nightblade, DW/Bow but you do not see me attacking him or attempting to discredit his experience.

Fleymark wrote: »

Well, I love my archer nightblade and am always happy to offer advice or, at least, share what has worked for me and I think we can be nice about it, but I tend to agree.

Passive aggressiveness does not hide the intent of insult. We should be nice but I agree that you are a noob or not as 1337 as me. That is what you basically are saying to the OP

Fleymark wrote: »

A lot of people have taken the whole "play your way" thing too literally. You still need to deal with realities of the game like self healing and dealing with multiple mobs regardless of how you spec and once you decide what your basic build vision is you need to throw the kitchen sink at it in terms of passives and supporting class and guild abilities because this game is designed around incremental building.

Another cop out statement by an apologist as well as a subtle L2P comment.

Fleymark wrote: »

And it's not fair to those of us who are successful with a particular build to have our build get a bad rap by people who either refuse to alter the way they play for their own benefit or who are so rigid about their vision of their build that they just refuse to address things like healing and cc/aoe. It makes it harder for us to get groups when we need them when there is nothing wrong with our class or build.

Critiquing his play style when you obviously have very little information to go on. He states its a few quests and that he has been just fine with everything else. Why would he think its his build when he has had so much success? I would assume the complete opposite from what you assume. I mean your use of the word 'people' really means 'you, the OP' when taken in context of the post correct? Or are you ranting?

Fleymark wrote: »

I learned the hard way in my mid 20s...If the main story quest is not letting you pass then that's the game's way of letting you know that it's time to reevaluate your build and tactics.

I am sure someone walked 20 miles up a mountain through the snow, descending into a hot sandy plateau to get to school as well. Thank goodness they don't post here.

Huh?

I was offering constructive advice. The guy, obviously, has missed something in his build. That's what the game is telling you when you hit a wall with the main story quest...look at your build and tactics. It hits some of us earlier than others. He said himself that he built "his way" is being inflexible and is declaring bow nightblade broken. I'm saying they aren't, please don't give my class a bad rap when you've done it wrong, and offered suggestions on what he might have a look at.

Get the F over yourself.

As per usual, you're just being argumentative just to argue.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO · June 2014

I played a NB much similar to the OP until I ran into some of the later solo quests and realized this wont hold and it wont work in veteran content (guild were full of horror stories at the time about vr levels).

What I did was to make up two separate bars for 2 different kind of fights. A stun/dps/dw bar where shadow cloak were used to defend and a slow dps but kite/heal/bow against really tough enemies.

Initially I had some backup alternate skills I used like those silver darts from the fighter guild, but I haven't altered my bar now from lvl 49 to VR9.

vr6 nightblade This is how my build were at VR6, only added some siphon passives since.

Those tough quests are there for a reason, they teach you to play the game like it is meant to be played. We have had this discussion internally in our guild because about one in 10 of the members could not complete the solo part with the build they had and all had to adjust their build or play style to continue.

kozuka87 · June 2014

This thread title is misleading - It should read 'Due to a lack of game knowledge and player ability, my character is stuck'.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

The AOK quest is actually grey to me, but yet no matter how I try to do it, I just die. Instantly Die. Over and over and over. Its like Im wearing a Wal-Mart shopping bag as armor.

That's the level 40 one where you end up fighting waves of 1, 2 then 3 skeletons?

The key here is not to draw aggro off them all, when I do this quest I go back up the steps before the mobs spawn, this way the NPCs are between you and the mobs and should be able to pick up one at least if not two.

If I have two on me I ensure I don't do any damage and run down the steps through the NPCs are usually one of the two get picked up leaving me with just one.

It's not an easy fight, the skeletons do hit hard but a level 47 with full blue gear really it's hard to see how you're losing as badly as you say. My Templar was level 44 I think, my Sorcerer 45 both in quest greens.

I don't have an NB above 9 ATM so certainly wouldn't try to provide ideas but I suspect your problem is opening up with an AOE using the bow that means the mobs make a bee-line fo you.

In all the fights where you have company .. apart from Lyris in the Rescue Sai quest .. the NPCs aren't totally worthless and can and do act as weak tanks if you let them and don't damage mobs they've pulled.

nerevarine1138 · June 2014

Mablung wrote: »

Provide links to your build or other posts where you have done this as opposed to simply insulting and essentially stating its a L2P issue.

So what if you are a better player than the OP or anyone else chiming in about how its his fault. So what if it is. Extend the helping hand or pipe down and say nothing,especially if you have nothing nice to say.

I have a VR9 Nightblade, DW/Bow but you do not see me attacking him or attempting to discredit his experience.

Here you go.

And again, if the OP had indicated once that he wanted any help, I would have provided specific advice for him. However, since he made it clear that he didn't want to actually explain what his build/tactics look like, due to his blind insistence that the game is broken, I didn't feel compelled to go into specifics. If he bothers to come back and actually explain how he's playing, I'll happily provide advice. Until then, I will simply respond to the points he raised: the class isn't broken.

Gilvoth · June 2014

haha very funny, thats not your character or anyones character, thats a skill set made for players to use that has nothing to do with one persons build but a build that can be made using thier list of choices.

nerevarine1138 · June 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

haha very funny, thats not your character or anyones character, thats a skill set made for players to use that has nothing to do with one persons build but a build that can be made using thier list of choices.

Well, feel free to find J'Fuzzybutt in-game. I'm currently finishing up VR10 Bangkorai before moving on to Craglorn/Cyrodiil quests. But since we don't have an armory, you're just going to have to be satisfied with the skill calculator build.

frwinters_ESO · June 2014

Im sorry dude but you just have to get better. When you have tons of nightblades, me included, who can do the content without problems and you can't do it, logically its just you. Not even trying to be mean, just being a vulcan here and using standard logic.

Nightblades are in fact broken, but those of us who have stuck it out have learned to adapt to the abilities that work over what doesn't.

As a NB going through the same content you are, I couldn't use melee on Mannimarco or Molag Bal. Bow and kiting did the trick. Use DoTs and never stop moving. Thats how I got passed them. Get some healing potions as well.

WyndStryke · June 2014

The bottom line is that players need to be flexible & be prepared to change things in their setup for specific battles. When approaching a difficult fight, watch a few battles on youtube or twitch to see if there are any good strategic ideas. Ask yourself - is it one big target or several, is it melee or range, are there any specific abilities which might be useful? Will it be short-duration (burst) or long-duration (sustain)? Would adding self-healing or AoE healing be useful?

For example, I'm on this very quest (L40 manimarco), I was killed off the first couple of attempts on it (that's fine, I know I don't have the strongest build), so now I'm going to fiddle with my skill bar to add some fighters guild abilities. I'll also go guild-store-hunting & find a suitable superlative regen drink. If that isn't enough, then I'll take another look and make more changes if necessary.

zgrssd · June 2014

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

Fast forward to now. I am 47, have all my bow skills line maxxed out, my medium armor line maxxed, and sport blue or better items.

Currently Stamian skills are not competitive to mana skills (class skills in particular). This is a know thing. Even I recently retooled my last Stam DPS too a tank because of this.
There is also the issues with the NB potentially being weaker then Dragonknight on the class skill area.

In any case, they first have to balance the Classes against one another.
Afterwards they can look at PvE and Stam/Magika balance. You cannot balance without a baseline (the class abilities) as you have nothing to test it against.

Talrenos · June 2014

Just an update...
I grinded my way on CH mobs to 48. re-orged my skills a bit, went back to try the 3 quests I could not complete before(now all very grey to me)
Yeah, I just got spanked hard again. One of them is a supposed L40 quest, which im now 8 levels over and I cannot do it.
Never mind, im shelving the NB character as apparently they still suck very badly. Im going to start a DK like everyone else and try to enjoy the game.

nerevarine1138 · June 2014

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

Just an update...
I grinded my way on CH mobs to 48. re-orged my skills a bit, went back to try the 3 quests I could not complete before(now all very grey to me)
Yeah, I just got spanked hard again. One of them is a supposed L40 quest, which im now 8 levels over and I cannot do it.
Never mind, im shelving the NB character as apparently they still suck very badly. Im going to start a DK like everyone else and try to enjoy the game.

I guess I'll have to tell my Nightblade to stop being so effective, because clearly I'm breaking all kinds of game laws...

Knootewoot · June 2014

I did the final assault with my NB only using bow. Also the quests are easily done with bow. I was lvl 35 or something when i decided my 2nd weapon line (first one handed/shield, bnow dual wield). Currently i am V9 and still able to solo everything ment for solo except Storm Atronachs

I must admit that some bosses (like Vox) where to hard for me. She spawned 3 ghost and i died in 1-2 hits. So i had to drag her all the way to start and dps like a maniac and be very lucky. I had one ghost in the end.

In PvP i avoid DK's mostly unless i want a quick travel to another keep. I am not the best PvP'er, but i had my share of kills. And yes, i also like to gank lower levels because i have no honor, but at V5 i killed enough V12's.

The_Sadist · June 2014

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

Just an update...
I grinded my way on CH mobs to 48. re-orged my skills a bit, went back to try the 3 quests I could not complete before(now all very grey to me)
Yeah, I just got spanked hard again. One of them is a supposed L40 quest, which im now 8 levels over and I cannot do it.
Never mind, im shelving the NB character as apparently they still suck very badly. Im going to start a DK like everyone else and try to enjoy the game.

After reading through this thread I can only sigh and shake my head.

Blaming the game because you refuse to use specific skills and optimise your character isn't how things work. The fault is your own, the fact you can't complete these quests is an issue you caused all by yourself.

I can use a restoration staff on my Sorcerer and claim to be a 'healer', but when it comes to solo PvE content I have to adapt and utilise class skills alongside guild skills and world skills. Complaining that my healer can't actually kill things because I'm not using my own spells wisely is moronic.

Your character isn't stuck due to design, it's stuck because of you.

Pele · June 2014

Aeratus wrote: »

I played as bow NB to v7 (before switching to Magicka, but that's a different story). You can definitely solo through vet zones as bow NB, since I have done the same.

This is the build I suggest.

1. Arrow spray -> Bombard (bow). Don't even think of getting the other morph. Bombard lets you immobilize everything in front of you.

2. Siphoning strikes -> Siphoning attacks (very important against groups of mobs). Far superior to leeching attacks when used with bombard, because each hit on bombard procs the chance for 15%. Always have this on.

3. Scattering shot (bow) -> draining shot. I think draining shot is much more managable, becuase it doesn't reposition yourself.

4. Strife -> either morph, although swallow soul is a little better for soloing.

5. Assassin's Blade -> either morph.

Ultimate: Veil of Blades (very important). Do not get the other morph. This ultimate is far better than the ultimate from the siphoning skill tree that you're using.

Here's the strategy
- for single targets, alternate between normal bow attack, scattering shot, and strife
- for groups of mobs, use bombard, and when they're immobilized, use the normal bow light attack to recharge stamina using siphoning attacks.
- for groups of mobs with a spellcaster mob, do the same as above, but use scattering shot (draining shot) to keep the spellcaster disoriented.
- when in trouble, use veil of blades

+Insightful

Thank-you for posting this. I find detailed posts such as yours helpful with my own NB. Hopefully it will give the OP some ideas for his NB.

Good luck, OP!

Food4Thought · June 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Well, gosh. I guess all these Nightblades (including myself) I've seen at VR have just cheated their way through.

Sorry, but it is you. There are some balancing tweaks needed to all classes, but that's mainly for VR content. Also, no way you've done every quest/world boss/delve/anchor/public dungeon in your faction's areas and Coldharbour without hitting VR1. It's impossible for you to have gotten that much quest XP and only be level 47.

I actually agree with this poster. You have missed quests somewhere. Hell, I'm 42 and I have literally just gotten into Reapers March. I'm I am literally facing mobs that are level 37 - 38. But that is where I am level wise. The quests have to catch up with me instead of me catching up with the quests.

I don't PVP (yet). I don't farm mobs. In fact due to inventory limitations there are times I try to avoid fights. All I pretty much do to level is questing.

But with that said, I think I can say where the OP went wrong. He is basing his quest completion on the objectives in the achievement section. Frankly, I did too and what I discovered was that there was probably an average of 2 - 5 quests in each zone beyond the achievement requirement. And some are quite easy to overlook. Some are nothing more than items in the world you interact with. Some are in public dungeons and near elite bosses. To find every quest you almost have to turn the map into a grid and search it like you would for a dead body in the woods - one square at a time.