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Horse Stamina
PlagueMonk
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I would like to discuss a recent and definitive answer a question posed in the recent Variety pack #15:
Is it normal that a horse can continue to sprint even if it runs out of stamina? I think players don’t appreciate that trait, since it seems to do nothing. – Chris J.
Yes, horses can sprint indefinitely without consuming stamina. That said, stamina is still valuable for two other reasons: It protects you from being dismounted when attacked, and if you rapidly press the sprint key you will get big boosts of speed on your mount (but at a much higher stamina cost). Of note, only horse mounts have the endless sprint trait. Other upcoming mount types will have different special traits.
To this I say complete BS. When I personally run out of stamina I drop to a slow jog, why the HELL can a mount run endlessly? This is counter intuitive and utter nonsense. It should work the same way for both mount and horse.
Having the stamina bar be only for a bit of extra speed (which is also a pain to keep tapping) and getting knocked off is not NEARLY as valuable as speed and renders the stat nearly worthless.
To that I would say, give horses invested in stamina permanent armor, making it VERY difficult to unhorse a high stamina horse. Say every 4 pts invested will give you 1 permanent armor which will equal being able to shrug off 1 attack. That alone would make stamina investment (especially in PvP) worth investing in.
For visuals you would get full leather barding at 20 feeds and plate barding at 40 feeds (this would also give those aesthetic people another incentive)
Is it normal that a horse can continue to sprint even if it runs out of stamina? I think players don’t appreciate that trait, since it seems to do nothing. – Chris J.
Yes, horses can sprint indefinitely without consuming stamina. That said, stamina is still valuable for two other reasons: It protects you from being dismounted when attacked, and if you rapidly press the sprint key you will get big boosts of speed on your mount (but at a much higher stamina cost). Of note, only horse mounts have the endless sprint trait. Other upcoming mount types will have different special traits.
To this I say complete BS. When I personally run out of stamina I drop to a slow jog, why the HELL can a mount run endlessly? This is counter intuitive and utter nonsense. It should work the same way for both mount and horse.
Having the stamina bar be only for a bit of extra speed (which is also a pain to keep tapping) and getting knocked off is not NEARLY as valuable as speed and renders the stat nearly worthless.
To that I would say, give horses invested in stamina permanent armor, making it VERY difficult to unhorse a high stamina horse. Say every 4 pts invested will give you 1 permanent armor which will equal being able to shrug off 1 attack. That alone would make stamina investment (especially in PvP) worth investing in.
For visuals you would get full leather barding at 20 feeds and plate barding at 40 feeds (this would also give those aesthetic people another incentive)
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Ser Lobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Obviously, this little extra bonus for horses will make more sense when other types of mounts are released.
Can't say I disagree with. Glad they are claiming it, whether it was an intentional thing or not.Ruze Aulus. Mayor of Dhalmora. Archer, hunter, assassin. Nightblade.
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someuser✭✭✭✭I didn't realize horse stamina was worthless....Though it does say it keeps you from getting knocked off and you can spam sprint to go faster... I can see why a lot of guys do pure speed horses.
Wish I knew that back in April
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✭If you run around without holding down shift. (So your horse stamina bar is full) and you get nuked in PVP, the first attack will drop your stamina but not knock you off your horse until the horse is out of stamina, so its 'like' armor. (You have to have a min of 20 stamina for this to work, or the first attack will take ALL stamina and kick you off anyway)
But NO ONE runs around on their horse without holding down shift, so normally everyone gets knocked off on the first attack.
I would be nice to know exactly how much stamina per attack is required, so you know how many 'hits' you can take before dismounted. It appears to be about 21, but hard to test and in PVP I am too busy fighting backEdited by Natjur on June 18, 2014 4:27AM0 -
PlagueMonk✭✭✭✭✭Doh! I completely forgot about this thread!I didn't realize horse stamina was worthless....Though it does say it keeps you from getting knocked off and you can spam sprint to go faster... I can see why a lot of guys do pure speed horses.
Wish I knew that back in April
Well it's not completely worthless, just nearly. I mean it only keeps you from being knocked off if you have enough stamina (but each hit takes stamina) and rapidly tapping does NOT give you a "big" speed boost as they claim, it gives you a moderate speed increase. In fact I have a hard time telling when I have lost that speed boost.If you run around without holding down shift. (So your horse stamina bar is full) and you get nuked in PVP, the first attack will drop your stamina but not knock you off your horse until the horse is out of stamina, so its 'like' armor. (You have to have a min of 20 stamina for this to work, or the first attack will take ALL stamina and kick you off anyway)
But NO ONE runs around on their horse without holding down shift, so normally everyone gets knocked off on the first attack.
I would be nice to know exactly how much stamina per attack is required, so you know how many 'hits' you can take before dismounted. It appears to be about 21, but hard to test and in PVP I am too busy fighting back
Yes, like armor but if they they want to continue with supporting the decision, stamina needs to be made more worthwhile which is why I proposed actual armor.
I don't regret taking the black horse and was willing to trade that 10% for the color but I WOULD like to be able to invest more into stamina and feel my points were being spent wisely which I can't do under the current game mechanics.2