Help me not to loathe this game's controls so much. [rage!!111]

isengrimb16_ESO

Bhakura wrote: »

i would break several fingers trying to get em out of the knot they ended up in using some of these key mappings

Critique mine, please, if you don't mind?

Dayv

I've got a gaming mouse, and assigned skills and weapon swaps to extra buttons on that. It's a lot easier than trying to move and press 1 or 6.

daneyulebub17_ESO

How do you you guys, by the way, handle dealing with potions? We have the currently active one (I still use Q to activate it) but--if you want to switch between say, a health potion and a stamina (edit) in the heat of battle? Hold q down for a long press, switch to the one you want, release, then hit Q again to activate? Or open your bags and double-click it there? Or--something I'm missing? You can't map to individual slots, right?

Gisgo

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

How do you you guys, by the way, handle dealing with potions? We have the currently active one (I still use Q to activate it) but--if you want to switch between say, a health potion and a stealth in the heat of battle? Hold q down for a long press, switch to the one you want, release, then hit Q again to activate? Or open your bags and double-click it there? Or--something I'm missing? You can't map to individual slots, right?

There is an add-on (possibly more than one) that lets you assign your potions to the F# keys.

Sorpaijen_ESO

Not sure it's the same add-On I looked at, but the add-On I tried only changed what potion was in your Quickslot, it did not activate it. So I'd press, say, the "7" key and it would change my Quickslot potion from a health potion to a magicka potion, but I'd still need to hit Q to actually ~consume~ it. Or maybe I could press "7" AGAIN to consume (I don't think that's the case, though --- I think the add on just changed what was IN the quickslot, but still required you to USE the quickslot button).

I use the numpad with my left hand while right hand is on the mouse for Left-mouse attack (charge for power attacks) and right mouse for block (while holding right mouse, left mouse press will interrupt).

Numpad 4, 6, 2 and 5 are cardinal direction movement, Numpad 1, 3, 7, 8, and 9 are the five skills, decimal is Ultimate, Enter is jump, Plus is crouch, Multiply is Quickslot, Subtract is the "alt" UI-window functionality and since I use it rarely Delete is Synergy. I have the numpad Divide set up to pull up inventory, which I use more than other UI windows.

All the commonly used functions all fit in the little square Numpad area. Oh, sheathing is on Backspace and Horse on H and Walk toggle on W since those are things I don't use often enough to warrant quick access.

Chuggernaut

I cannot stand keyboard + mouse anymore either. I mapped the controls to my 360 controller with glovePIE (its free), with the following keymap:

// Back Start (Crouch and AutoRun)
Key.NumLock = Xinput.Back
Key.CapsLock = Xinput.Start

// A B X Y Buttons (Accept, Decline, Synergy, and Drink Potion)
Key.E = Xinput.A
Key.Alt = Xinput.B
Key.X= Xinput.X
Key.Q = Xinput.Q

// D-Pad (Skils 1-4)
Key.1 = Xinput.Up
Key.3 = Xinput.Down
Key.2 = Xinput.Left
key.4 = Xinput.Right

// Left Toggle (Movement, Push to Run)
Key.W = Xinput.Joy1Y > .5
Key.S = Xinput.Joy1Y < -.5
Key.A = Xinput.Joy1X < -.5
Key.D = Xinput.Joy1X > .5
Key.Shift = Xinput.LeftThumb

// Right Toggle (Mouse Move/Look around, Push to Jump)
Key.Space = Xinput.RightThumb
Mouse.DirectInputX += (XInput1.Joy2X)^3 *20
Mouse.DirectInputY -= (XInput1.Joy2Y)^3 *20

// Left Buttons (Ability 5 and Block)
Key.5 = Xinput.LeftShoulder
Mouse.RightButton= Xinput.LeftTrigger

// Right Buttons (Ultimate Ability and Attack)
Key.R = Xinput.RightShoulder
Mouse.LeftButton = Xinput.RightTrigger

Arora

just usb in a controller.

Haxer

Ironically, the controls (wasd/mouselook/LMB/RMB) is actually my favorite mechanic in ESO. If I could, I would use it for every MMO ever.

But I understand, to each their own. And to you, it probably feels as terrible as the non-mouse look traditional mmo schemes do to me.

daneyulebub17_ESO

So, without an add-on, people really just use one potion, or have to go through all that "long press Q, move the highlight, let go, press Q again" stuff? Or only ever use one type of potion in a battle?

Really kind of a pain, and makes a lot of 2nd tier potions go unused.

Falmer

Part of the issue is likely equipment related.. Get a gaming mouse and a gaming keyboard. Gaming keyboards believe it or not generally allow multiple key presses simultaneously without locking up. This is called anti-ghosting.

I use a Razor BlackWidow Ultimate. Trust me, with the right equipment, you will find it will work like no other control setup.

aldeera_terab16_ESO

Update:

Just bought a cheapo PS3/PC controller and configured XPadder. It's already feeling MUCH less of a hassle, and I haven't even properly configured everything yet. I never realized character movement could be so ... easy. ;P No more cramped fingers!

@ everyone suggesting gaming keyboard + mouse

I agree wholeheartedly, yet simply don't consider ESO worth buying expensive gaming equipment. I don't nearly play enough games to justify such a purchase. I once had a nifty G15 when I still played WoW a couple of years ago, but the thing broke at some point. Maybe I'll make myself a gaming keyboard/Naga christmas present if I still play ESO by then ;P

SK1TZ0FR3N1K

For years I have used a game pad(Belkin N15 before it became the Razer Orbweaver), and a gaming mouse(some type of Naga since they came out) and I find I actually have buttons left over to use for quality of life keybinds. I have used the same buttons on each to do the same basic motions, and the equivalent spells/abilities for every game I play. There are some really good keybinds on here if you just don't want to purchase the gaming mouse/ keypad though. I found switching to that combo in every PC game I play, made it worth that initial investment years ago.

Tabbycat

Since my mouse has a couple extra buttons, I mapped one of them to auto run. I can auto run and use the mouse to steer my character. Of course, I use the wasd keys some while in battle, but most of the time I don't worry so much because my pets are pretty good at keeping most things off of me. Perks of being a sorcerer I guess.

aldeera_terab16_ESO

Haxer wrote: »

Ironically, the controls (wasd/mouselook/LMB/RMB) is actually my favorite mechanic in ESO. If I could, I would use it for every MMO ever.

But I understand, to each their own. And to you, it probably feels as terrible as the non-mouse look traditional mmo schemes do to me.

Well, but that doesn't even remotely cover the abilities/key presses you're gonna need in a fight. The WASD thing was just something I mentioned since a WASD user can easily press Q, E, F, Y(Z on a non-qwertzu keyboard, heh), X, etc. which might be a slight advantage over someone using the arrow keys for movement. But that's really only a matter of personal preference, I guess, since there will always be plenty of keys one can reach with the left hand while steering.

However, the mouselook is an interesting point. I only noticed today that ESO doesn't have any camera settings (well, duh) other than zoom, which is also kinda weird for a game.

So what does your key mapping look like?