How's the game's economy now? considering the duping before, bots and gold sellers.

TagaParti

How's the game's economy now in your own opinion? And what did Zenimax do to the dup items and golds before?

ShADoW0s

Well the did ban some people but not everyone. No gold was duped, people just vendored the duped items to get gold. IMO right now the economy is pretty stable, the duped stuff did not spread a whole lot since there is was no public AH.

Economy in the future is gonna be interesting tho, since the most effective way to get gold is quests and there are only a limited amount of them. Grinding mobs will be the only way to get alot of gold in the future, so prices will all be relatively the same though the levels.

I do believe alot of people are stocking up on Legendary mats right now because Vr15 is coming soonish and mat prices will go up about 1k when that happens as everyone will rush to get the best items in the game.

wrlifeboil

There seems to be a dropoff in what economy there was to begin with but that's just a gut feeling. There is no quantitative way to say how the overall economy is going because we are all landlocked on our guild store islands.

Raash

They gonna raise the ranks again? Thats one of the most horrible thing i ever heard! I really hope they reconsider that idea and shoot it, stab it and throw it in a pool of rocket fuel and nuke it. You han never be sure such evil stuff to be dead enough.

Xozah

Raash wrote: »

They gonna raise the ranks again? Thats one of the most horrible thing i ever heard! I really hope they reconsider that idea and shoot it, stab it and throw it in a pool of rocket fuel and nuke it. You han never be sure such evil stuff to be dead enough.

Read somewhere that they already have plans for up to v20. My Guess is they aint stopping at that either.

Skylandra

The Economy seems to be kinda dead... Perhaps I am in a minority, but I have every craft at 50 and I am self sufficient. Within the guild we don't charge for items ( but players do need to provide mats for items they want crafted). Even within the guild people don't want to make Epic stuff because none of us know what endgame/max level is and will be for say the next 3 months. The constant VR grind is beginning to really bite and hurt the economy - give us stability - give us end game that remains endgame!!

Pele

Four of my five guilds are trading guilds. I trade daily through them and zone chat; some days, all I do is trade. I play on the NA server and have an alt in each faction.

From what I've seen and experienced, the economy seems stable.

The market isn't flooded with epics and legendary items from the duping exploit. It can sometimes be a bit difficult to obtain epic and legendary mats.

Prices for items aren't outrageously overpriced ( usually ) nor are they dirt cheap.

Gisgo

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Vr15 is coming soonish

Doh?
Source?

Dovel

It is difficult to tell. There isn't really a server economy. Everyone is using their small Guild stores. I have so much gold now I don't bother selling much of anything. I usually just give resources away to friends or other Guild members.

I am not sure what there is to buy with gold after bag/bank space and mount upgrades.

Nephys

@Dovel I doubt that 'everyone' is using the useless guild stores. Many simply do not bother using them all - as you say, you have so much gold that you don't bother to sell and I think the same is true for many others.

ShADoW0s

Gisgo wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Vr15 is coming soonish

Doh?
Source?

Considering the current ghyphs go up to Vr14, its not much of a surprise. Its suppose to be Craglorn part 2 or something like that. Anyway here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYFFvZogN8

there you can see Vr13, also Vr15 when hes talking about the dungeons, where the group finder shows the dungeon rank of Vr1 - 15.

Take it how you will, but Vr will be increased soon.

ZiRM

The truth is this game has no economy.

tylarthb16_ESO

All four of my trading guilds are very sluggish in trade turnover. The listing have been trimmed to only what people will buy and even then only what is worth selling or from add-ons, what is being bought. It is however very slow as none of the guilds are very active even if all are 450+ from last month online.

McDoogs

What economy? The only things of value are purple/yellow upgrade mats and purple recipes. Everything else is ludicrously easy to acquire, making gold virtually worthless when you hit the bank/inventory space you want.

daneyulebub17_ESO

What I'm getting from the above responses is all the OMG GOLD SPAMMERS AND BOTS ARE PERMANENTLY RUINING THE ECONOMY THE GAME WILL NEVER RECOVER posts were,um, less than accurate.

Tandor

If you are not in a trading guild there is no economy, and if you are in a trading guild there is not much of an economy.

tylarthb16_ESO

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

What I'm getting from the above responses is all the OMG GOLD SPAMMERS AND BOTS ARE PERMANENTLY RUINING THE ECONOMY THE GAME WILL NEVER RECOVER posts were,um, less than accurate.

Well i think the goldfarmers may have realised the game is not nearly as popular as they'd hoped for, despite being easy to bot in, so shifted their resources to wildstar.

AlexDougherty

tylarthb16_ESO wrote: »

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

What I'm getting from the above responses is all the OMG GOLD SPAMMERS AND BOTS ARE PERMANENTLY RUINING THE ECONOMY THE GAME WILL NEVER RECOVER posts were,um, less than accurate.

Well i think the goldfarmers may have realised the game is not nearly as popular as they'd hoped for, despite being easy to bot in, so shifted their resources to wildstar.

Elite should be interesting, it appears to encourage farming, and piracy too come to think about it, people fed up with bots should be able to shoot them down,if they can find them.

Sil

NiRN wrote: »

The truth is this game has no economy.

That's sadly all the truth to say about enonomy.

For your questions about social community, deeper ingame things to do or grouping just replace the word <economy> in your question and stick to the given answer above...^^

But it's a nice singleplayer game to stick a bit around with quests and exchange gossips in your tradeguild....

waylander48

only see a couple of goldseller spam in zone chat nowadays reading wildstar forums seems they have a real problem with it over there.

Fairydragon3

Zone is usually my economy, I go to the guild stores when I can't sell something going form zone to zone. But that stuff always sells within a few days

martinhpb16_ESO

For me the economy is sluggish, I'm having trouble selling hardly anything and usually cant buy what I need.

I would buy crafted consumables but cant find the ones I want.

Wasting time trading in multiple zone chats is tiring.

At least if we had a global AH with proper search UI I could see what was available in the economy and also know what to sell.

The guild store system is not very good imo.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

Tandor wrote: »

If you are not in a trading guild there is no economy, and if you are in a trading guild there is not much of an economy.

Economics classes would teach you a lot. If there is a common price for something, that means there is an economy. So whether or not you are in a trade guild, there is still common prices for items that people sell.

Vuron

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

If you are not in a trading guild there is no economy, and if you are in a trading guild there is not much of an economy.

Economics classes would teach you a lot. If there is a common price for something, that means there is an economy. So whether or not you are in a trade guild, there is still common prices for items that people sell.

But, there isn't a common price for anything, even within the same guild store. The guild stores and zone chats are such small sample sizes that prices change minute to minute just on a whim. You can sit and watch zone chat and items such as daedric motifs will be advertised anywhere from 50k to 20k within a 5 minute period.

The only item that really seems stable are junk glyphs used for leveling that sell for about 100g each.

I don't know why so many people are against an AH, but I think the game is really suffering from not having one.

Swordguy

i probably blew at least a couple hundred thousand on spec resets since launch, because there really is nothing else to spend it on, besides a horse.

hk11

I have only seen people selling ore, bites, and racial books. Not really an economy imo.

Guild stores are varied so the competition is not what it would be with an auction house.

I guess this might be good for the seller, but as a consumer I don't care for it. My idea of a good economy is where I can buy items at a reasonable price.

Pele

I am curious.

For those of you who say there is no economy:

- How often do you trade?
- Do you buy or sell?
- How do you trade (stores, chat, other)?
- What are you trading?

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

TagaParti wrote: »

How's the game's economy now in your own opinion? And what did Zenimax do to the dup items and golds before?

There's no global AH so there's no "game's economy" just a whole bunch of little ones.

LonePirate

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Economy in the future is gonna be interesting tho, since the most effective way to get gold is quests and there are only a limited amount of them. Grinding mobs will be the only way to get alot of gold in the future, so prices will all be relatively the same though the levels.

The daily quests in Craglorn and Cyrodiil are a great way to accumulate several thousand gold each day and every day. It is also very easy to farm nodes in Craglorn, then you just need to visit your favorite bank or location that drops racial stones and you can make several hundred gold very easily. One does not need to farm mobs to obtain gold.

Mescalamba

There is about as much economy as in some third world countries with tribe system. Barter and such..

Most of the time I sell just some stupid things, like recipes, motifs.. Rest is too important for me to sell.

Also when it comes to buying I learned that there is no point in trying that, cause I almost never find what I need (except some enchantable jewellery, that was possible to find).

Guild store system is good idea, game implementation is poor, bad and stupid.

alphawolph

I make everything I need and vendor the rest. What economy?