Unfortunately the 256MB graphics card is the real problem and less than the system requirements. So, it 'may' work but with everything Lowest I suspect. Also it is limited by the installed RAM. Upgrading that might help a bit but it's hard to know for sure how much. Also, the CPU may be struggling depending on what activity.Hi all, my wife is playing on her Mac mini and I was wondering if there are any options to improving her performance. On a normal night of playing her fps are normally in the red with her settings turned to nearly the lowest, playable level. These are her specs:
Mac mini 2011
2.5 Ghz Intel core I5
AMD Radeon HD 6630M (256 MB)
Mac OSX Lion 10.7.5
I know that her Mac is not the greatest gaming machine on the planet, but we have always been on a fairly even playing field in other games. Now my PC is blowing her Mac away. All I'm asking is if there is a way to improve her gaming experience. We are able to quest and do things, but her lag slows her down some. If it's just a "deal with it" type of situation I would not be upset or surprised, but maybe there is something we can do to tweak her performance level and get her back in the green
Not the GPU as it's integrated as are most Mac which use mobile graphics cards generally for energy efficiency and heat reduction.Is a mini something that can be upgraded at all? It would seem not but once again, I'm a PC guy and know very little about Mac. Thanks though for insight!
Have you reset your PRAM? Do you have the discrete graphics card? If so ensure that it is being used not the integrated Intel one rather than the better one.lol don't bother, except you buy the new mac pro. Theres no hope for playing this game, I play with a top of the range retina MBP. I can barely play on my thunderbolt screen with no lag and epicly bad FPS unless I drop the resolution and play in a tiny window. And even when I do play on my rMBP directly, I lag and have to suffer through the blurry 1400*900 conversion. Ridiculous!
Zenimax screwed us, cancelled my 180 day sub today because I couldn't "take it no more". If they fix it before the sub officially runs out, ill be back. If not well, "it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all".
Nothing is worse than wasted potential.
Cheers. Hope this helps any potential players.
Rubbish. Plenty of players report that the Mac client runs and plays fine. A lot better than Cider ports certainly. The memory crash is an annoying bug that does cause crashes and needs to be fixed. But performance wise, it is on par with the PC client.I can certainly feel for those with poor performance. The kicker is that this game was meant to be a native mac game, but certainly performance is on par with other ciderised games (eg GW2), only with a lot more crashing. As per usual, mac gamers are sadly second class citizens, but i'm sure ZOS are acutely aware they can get away with that.
If it works for you that's great. But making wide sweeping statements which are patently wrong doesn't help get your point across.I've now sadly given up on the mac client. I finally relented and am running this on bootcamp with Win 7, with the game actually installed on an external firewire drive. Even so, I'm enjoying higher resolution, higher frame rates, with practically no crashing. The whole point was to avoid the hassle of rebooting into bootcamp, but as i'm crashing every 45-60 mins, requiring a reboot as it doesn't have the decency to drop me to the desktop, i might as well just reboot the once and play the game as intended. Not to mention not having to drop the graphics settings ridiculously to get a decent frame rate.
Which is wrong , pure and simple. You may find it on your specific Mac for some reason we don't understand from previous posts here but it is just not the case.certainly performance is on par with other ciderised games
Again you talk about a crash that very few others have experienced with the Mac client on low as well as high end Macs. Check the forums if you want. If your Mac is hard crashing and can't be correctly quit even using the recommended method from Apple i.e.I'm talking about the app trying to allocate memory and it crashing with an unhandled exception, and doing it so badly it takes down my entire machine. This only happens on the mac client on my setup (and before you mention it, i regularly check memory, filesystem, and scan the drive for defective blocks with TechTool 7).
Press Command-Option-Esc to Force Quit an application. it that does not work then try this which usually works even in Fulscreen mode.
If you cannot switch from the unresponsive app, press Command-Option-Shift-Esc for three seconds to force it to quit. This key combination tells OS X to force quit the frontmost app.
source: Apple Support kb
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3411Command-Option-Shift-Esc for three seconds
Which is patently incorrect and why others have pulled you up on it.The kicker is that this game was meant to be a native mac game, but certainly performance is on par with other ciderised games (eg GW2), only with a lot more crashing. As per usual, mac gamers are sadly second class citizens, but i'm sure ZOS are acutely aware they can get away with that.
While it would be nice if ZOS could provide PC-Mac parity for us on low end machines, i don't see that being a priority for them. My post was to highlight that you don't have to stop playing if you're on a low end mac (within the advertised minimum specs) and you can get a decent gaming experience in bootcamp. Is that an 'exaggerated statement'?
The difference in performance on either of the Macs is marginal in testing. Yes.Whatever dude. I'm simply saying if it don't work well enough on your low end mac, try bootcamp because chances are it will work well. Or are you saying that you're getting exactly the same performance on both mac/win on your 6 year old machine?
Now that you express your actual point without the hyperbole in your original post, I agree with what you say here.Actually what spoils it for me isn't "performance", it's crashes. It runs decently when it runs. And FWIW, i prefer the look of it on my mac - i find the windows graphics too sharp and shiny, but maybe that's just the resolution. But it crashes oh so predictably. And the crashes, for me at least, force me to not regard it as a well crafted mac app, in spite how much i want to love it. But that's that's just me.
So if I may poke my head back into my thread, I have read up on most of the discussions and all I really need to ask is if it would, in fact, benefit us if I upgraded my wife's memory even with the "crappy integrated graphics card". Her normal performance is about 25-30 fps (mostly in the red) and has NO more crashing issues so that isn't an issue.
I'll try to poke back in here now and then to see what you guys think and then you can get back to your discussion.
Oh well, not the news I wanted to hear but sometimes the truth hurts.