How the hell do you level up Enchanting?

Hoamaii

Okay, I'm pretty good at finding all the hidden spots and treasures and books and skyshards in that game - I usually end up finding all skyshards and all books in my level area without any addon or cheat of any kind - but I NEVER, EVER seem to be able to find potency runes (well ok, I found 3 miserable ones in a week).

Buying glyphs and uncrafting them NEVER gives me any potency runes either with any of my characters - plus it makes the skill crawl miserably whether you're crafting or deconstructing - whereas crafting 3 potions is enough to earn you alchemy skill points in a flash!

I even created a character who's sole purpose is to stay at lowest levels and roam around for the damn potency stones I'm missing to help my other characters. Even that doesn't work - once you level up, the glyphs I may find and decraft are way above my Enchanting level... It just seems hopeless, a waste of time, skill points and inventory.

Has any of you guys managed to level up Enchanting significantly, and how did you do it? Damn, I miss Skyrim's crafting system!..

(Ahem, sorry for the strange English, not my native language).

SirAndy

Hoamaii wrote: »

How the hell do you level up Enchanting?

Painfully slow?

Nazon_Katts

Deconstruct player made glyphs. Either trade or buy them. Additionally, you'll have to do a few rune runs, if your pockets aren't deep enough. Farming mobs that drop glyphs is another way, usually magical beings (wizards, daedra, etc) seem to have a higher drop rate. Treasure chest can yield a few, too.

Cutekhaos

I'm at lvl 28 enchanting, I have a crafting guild that helps a lot, making weapons and jewelry glyph give you the most exp, use the jejota or denata aspects for quicker leveling, get a d/e buddy to craft and trade with. Beyond that it is brutally slow.

MasterSpatula

Painfully.

tordr86b16_ESO

Construct and then trade em in equal amounts to another player or, buy normal gyphs from another player. Personally, I would wait with enchanting all together until VR10 and then proceed with AOE grind in the open dungeons. A few runs will amount you to about 100 runes to disenchant.

Crisscross

Level up? Enchanting?

Guffaw.

Woogawoman

I finally reached the point where I can make level 35-45 runes yesterday. Unfortunately, I'm level 48. That means I have not been able to make runes for myself since I was level 34 - and won't be able to any time soon.

raudfsfolley

I have two high level characters that send my poor enchanter their cast off enchants and she breaks them down.. that sped things up a bit. Also, breaking down another player created enchant can sped it up too.

Hamfast

Friends... you help friends, they help you... I traded Glyphs with one friend, he sent me what he could make, I sent him mine... I have had 2 Guild Mates send me the stones they had been collecting for weeks to make into glyphs to break down... After 25 breaking down white glyphs is not worth the effort, but it can get you the Potency Runes you need.

My enchanting is 43 now, I have spent the skill points, I can make any glyph and folks in my guild have asked me to do just that...

Also, bookcases, I went from 27 to 31 in 2 days just looking at book cases...

Cogo

Best way, unless you are like me and do hours of journeys around the zones to explore. I always find enchants and runes here and there.

Best way is to have friends/guild where you are set as the guild enchanter, and you all help out.

I really like that system. We have 2 enchanters in our guild now, with almost top level.

Svann

As far as finding runes goes - it seems to me that they are more plentiful in cyrodiil.

Shadow27

Theres a bug with XP needed at 28-29 and 29-30. You need there like 240k XP. On higher levels its just 75k+ so dont give up. I hope, someone from devs will look at this and it´ll be repaired...

Cogo

adamrussell52_ESO wrote: »

As far as finding runes goes - it seems to me that they are more plentiful in cyrodiil.

I keep finding em in most zones. But I am the type of player who roams around, looking behind every rock/tree whatever. Mostly cause of my skyshard hunting, but also curious.

This has killed me quite a few times also, running into the wrong creature.

I do tend to find quite a lot of chests this way. Cause they are hidden where most people dont go I guess.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

Hamfast wrote: »

Also, bookcases, I went from 27 to 31 in 2 days just looking at book cases...

Could you tell us where? Because I only found 2-3 books early in game around Auridon. Since then any bookshelf I have looked, which are dozens per day, wield no points on any skill line. (I am VR4)

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As for the OP. If you play alone, you can level an alt along with your main. Not helpful since you need to burn twice as many stones, but it works the same as with another player.

And note, try to avoid burning Denata or better Aspect stones, until you get Aspect Extraction 2-3

At VR4 at the monent, and my skill just went 22. Trying since level 3. But I am patient., since I will not need gold glyphs until ~VR10-12

Also here is a chart of the returns.


and this is a very good article, which you might want to read.
http://dulfy.net/2014/05/11/eso-enchanting-glyphs-and-runes-guide/

Ragekniv

Root canals are less painful than leveling enchanting!

Seriously, this craft needs adjusting as to difficulty of leveling!

Hoamaii

Thanks for the replies, guys!

Honestly, I've tried almost everything you suggest, search every rock, every NPC killed, every chest, every bookcase, with each one of my characters providing stones for my only mage. But inevitably, my characters level up and move along (also get tired of running around the same zone 4 or 5 times!) and since my Enchanting level remains stuck under 16, no way to use the higher glyphs I happen to find!.. Also read quite a few Internet articles about it.

I'll try trading with other players - but truly, I believe something is totally imbalanced in this crafting system and quite discouraging - I've tried many ways but no matter what I do, crafting skills crawl up barely at half the speed of character leveling, and that's if you craft a LOT.

Another example: my warrior leveled up the forge pretty good for instance and I keep tracks of all the ArmorSets forges I found in the game - but every time I get to the Set Forge I'm interested in, I find the only stuff I can craft there are beneath my level!.. So all right, I could offer to craft for other players beneath my level but what's the fun of that?.. When you fight your way to level up, the main benefits should be for your own character, right?

I understand it may get more interesting for Veterans, and I may get there eventually, but Zenimax should know 90% of their players will never get that far, they'll play for 2 or 3 months at best, then move along to another game. Lower levels are really meant to be an incentive to hook you up, make you wanna stay, keep going (and paying the fee...) - from what I've seen so far, that doesn't work much. The whole routine of "fight-harvest-craft" only to run and spend all your hard money buying extra tiny inventory space can really get boring after 30 or 35 levels when the only real changes you've seen are new landscapes and new crafting motifs. Something is painfully missing there... Rewards maybe?

iaintoff

Since I'm nearly done with the place and almost dinking 40 at it, I don't mind sharing.

The best place I have found bar none to obtain glyphs is bone snap ruins in storm heaven.

You can farm between 15 to 20 glyphs every 30 mins in there and as an added consequence you will pick up around 4 to 5k in gold via drops and also pick up between 50-60 raw hide scraps which gives you chance to refine legendaries every session.

Make no mistake this is still a grind, but I have found it the best so far.

Top tip.

If you are high level e.g. Vr12 try and group up with vr1 or group of lowbie vets and then the glyph drops can be even higher per 30 mins session, with 110 bag space.

Also put the three points in aspect extraction and generally speaking when you have crunched the 15 to 20 glyphs you will be able to craft roughly 5 more and then you can crunch them for xp as we'll so nice little screw.

Tabbycat

Enchanting is definitely the worst to level up. I'd honestly recommend doing it on only one character if you play alts.

FrauPerchta

Leveling Enchanting since the node nerf or whatever it was has become even more painful. Till the node change I'd find at least 20 nodes a play session and now I feel lunch if I find one Enchant node.

seneferab16_ESO

It is painfully slow, and the proffession I had most trouble leveling up in any MMO I have ever played.

My suggestion is to join an enchanters guild as it completely saved my arse from the sometimes 3 hour/day grind I had to do in zones I had already completed just to find the friggin potency runes I needed.
There is one in EU called Enchanters Needs. Contact me @charna and I'll toss you an invite. Finding a crafting buddy to trade runes with help _a lot_

I am vet 3 and for the first time since lvl 10 I can make runes for my own level.

Daragon

Agree with most comments here, enchanting is incredibly painful to level. As peeps have said trade with a friend/ guildie is the best way, yet still incredibly slow. Even with the xp bug at skill level 28-29-30 after that its better but not by that much. And then once you get to lvl 40+ and can make all glyphs you'll find that:
1) many jewelry items cannot be enchanted
2) Weapon enchants from dungeon drops etc are far far better than anything you can make (Arsonists staff - enchant does 43 Flame Damage +43 Irresistible damage) try make that as a glyph or the +80 Irresistible damage from the covenant bow or dozens of other weapon enchants that are far better.
3) The difference between white-green-blue-purple-yellow is fairly small at max level there is 3 points of stamina/ magika difference between the glyph types. So if you have all purple glyphs for magika you get a total +63 extra magika on compared to purchased white glyphs or +84 extra magika for all yellows. Not really here nor there when it comes to total stat gains.
IMO, the only yellows that are really worthwhile making are health ones for your tanks.
Considering the amount of time and effort you put into enchanting (compared to provisioning, alchemy or hell any other crafting skill) is it really worth while to level enchanting?
Sure you may spend months upon months doing research for the 7th-8th trait on the three main crafting skills but the set bonus you get when you do and the difference in stats from white to yellow for weapons and armour actually make those worthwhile.
I would suggest that this craft skill is for a Guild Alt, one maybe two person (people) in the guild who everyone sends their runes/ glyphs to and then can focus on other more worthwhile skills with their mains.

For example I'm now lvl 48 in enchanting. 50 in Clothier, 50 in Blacksmithing, 45ish in Alchemy - only started that 3-4 days ago.
I've researched 6 traits in all heavy armour, swords and greatswords and 7 traits in a fair few of them.
I've researched 6 traits in most medium armour and a few pieces of light armour and working that up to 6 in all before starting the 7th.
In alchemy I can currently make rank 1 pots.
Blacksmith and enchanting were my two chosen craft skills at start of the game. Clothier I started when I hit vet rank 3 about 2-3 weeks ago (I did some research prior to that without any points put into it) Alchemy I just started a few days ago.
I've been swapping glyphs with a few guildies since week 1 and been breaking down glyphs I've found/ farmed since day 1 and still not got to level 50 on enchanting. Sure I can make all Glyphs but they really really aren't that special. You cant even compare the glyphs you can make with the ones from named drops from dungeons or the pvp weapons - so much for player crafting skills being some of the best in the game - at least where enchanting is concerned.

Seroczynski

Once you get to level 40 with enchanting you are done, as from that point onward there are no more skillpoints to invest and you are able to craft up to VR14 glyphs with all available runes.

MrBeatDown

The easiest way to level enchanting is to join a enchanters guild. I have my own guild and the only things allowed to be listed and sold in the store is runes and glyphs. The only real purpose the store serves is a free 30 spot inventory with a sell option. So if I go offline and you need to buy something, its probably in the store. I currently farm and craft Green and Blue p7-p8 Glyphs I sell the green p7 glyphs for 150 and blue p7 glyphs for 225. I sell the Green p-8 Glyphs at 150 and the blue p8 glyphs at 225. Why so cheap? Because Its just an inventory dump for me and free easy gold. I farm for P9 runes and Rekuta and Kuta for my self. I sell those glyphs really expensive to others not in my guild. I make a nice profit so I can basically give away Hi level crafted glyphs because I don't get xp from them anymore. I don't cruise around in the lower maps to make those glyphs for lower level players. I deal exclusively in v10-14 glyphs for my profit. So I could care less about the loss of making glyphs that were free for me anyway. I have rune routes that I run and average 40-50 Runes a hour. I might get 2-3 p9 Pot runes. And mabey 1-3 Rekuta, after craglorn patch Kuta is very hard to find so I might not get any.

Anyways, the point of joining a enchanters guild is to have access to hi level enchanters that can craft your p-7 to p8 runes for you FOR FREE so that you can deconstruct for maximum xp. Sometimes its hard finding someone to trade glyphs with..... So why make a bunch a glyphs you cannot trade???????? Now your stuck with glyphs filling up your inventory. If you run runes on a route, then you know that space can become an issue when you start filling up your inventory with glyphs. So just let someone else craft those glyphs for you so you can immediately deconstruct them, Freeing up inventory space, and getting Max xp on decon. I hit Level 50 doing this for my guild so that's the only reason why I dump off higher level glyphs for cheap.I don't need them, Most new commers to enchanting cant craft them, and now you can get higher level glyphs cheap, made by someone else so you can deconstruct them.

The absolute best way to Farm runes once you join one of these type guilds is to farm the highest level maps you can for runes, For example, Farm the Easiest V-6 to Craglorn map you can find, That way you are always farming p-7 to p-9 runes. It doesn't matter if your enchant level is Level 7. Now when you get enough to make about 20-30 GLyphs out of your stash, Contact someone in your guild to make them for you. Its not hard really, and there is always someone willing to help you make your glyphs, Mostly because even at Level 40 you can still get xp from making those glyphs. And a lot of people like to go the extra mile to get to level 50 enchanting which does absolutely nothing for them. Its just a Bragging right for them. They bigger the enchanter guild the better, That means more people to trade with or help each other out.

I decided to become an enchanter when I was V10. My enchanter skill was already level 21 from tearing down the glyphs I had found. I always saved my runes because I never knew if I wanted to level enchanting. I found that It was necessary for End game and very cost efficient to be able to craft my own glyphs. So I went from 21 to 40 In less than 3 days, I did this by making a guild and inviting as many people as I could while I was leveling, I recruited people for about a week and had about 74 people at its max, then after craglorn patch, Some people quit, and some people in my guild haven't logged on since the patch. I still have 59 people in my guild, But only about 20 of them are active. And basically we are all max enchanters now. So these types of guilds are always looking to add more people to fill in space.

So I would say Leveling enchanting is Easy. Especially when your part of a rune and glyph exclusive guild. I even allow all my members to invite anyone that wants to become an enchanter to join the guild to keep the roster full enough for a store. There is always colored glyphs and runes for sale. Some folks charge too much, But they also pay to much to get the supplies. Farming is the number one way to cost effectively (cheaply) level your enchanting. If you get caught up in buying expensive glyphs for decon, it will cost you hundreds of thousands of gold to hit level 40.

Anyways, ya, Im in Ebonheart Pact and im one of those guys you can whisper to join the guild.

Hamfast

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

Hamfast wrote: »

Also, bookcases, I went from 27 to 31 in 2 days just looking at book cases...

Could you tell us where? Because I only found 2-3 books early in game around Auridon. Since then any bookshelf I have looked, which are dozens per day, wield no points on any skill line. (I am VR4)

I remember finding 2 in bookcases on either side of a door in Haven, I have looked at those same book cases with 2 other characters and got nothing.... I therefore must assume Bookcases are random...

snagallnub18_ESO

leveling enchanting is broken atm... DONT bother ...SELL your runes till they fix this....trust me eventually they will fix this...

Hoamaii

@ Iaintoff: thanks for the tip, man, I'll get back there and see if I get luckier than when I was in StormHaven. Cheers!

@ Seneferab16_ESO: will gladly accept the invitation in your guild .

SilverWF

Enchanting - slowest profession to exping.
Compare to Woodworking for example: deconstructing white staff gives you 5k exp, but white rune only 1k
Ridiculous!

Anvos

The answer is really slowly and its really the only craft that requires trading items with others to effectively level.

Currently all my other crafts are at or near 50 and enchant only just reached 30. (started all crafts at same time)