Reset Emperor points to 0 after they become Emperor/Empress

Valn

Same 10 people on the top 10 list, having millions and millions of points that no new player has a chance of ever reaching and becoming Emperor.

Most of these people have already been emperor, some of them more than 5 times.

Reset their points to 0 when they become Emperor.

Uviryth

agreed

rawne1980b16_ESO

Yep, always the same.

3 people on Ebonheart EU got it repeatedly.

Hilariously, one of them quit the game completely but had so many points he still got emperor twice without being around.

SantieClaws

Just like in real life. Power, once gained, rarely moves.

However this not being real life there should be some method of levelling the field just a little bit.

GrimCyclone

How much you wanna bet it's 50% hacks?

Arsenic_Touch

GrimCyclone wrote: »

How much you wanna bet it's 50% hacks?

Majority of the emperors gained their points through repeating the kill 20 player quest that used to be repeatable. The point difference between players that didn't abuse this quest and those that did is easy to see.

Emperor pretty much just promote farming instead of tactics.

I hope they rework the system so that it's actually fair for everyone. It should be something that everyone can reasonably work for if they're going to give it such tangible benefits.

gurluasb16_ESO

I agree, other players should be able to become Emperor too.

GrimCyclone

Personally, unless I'm Emperor, I'm going to complain. My ego is gigantic. I mean... look I'm a nice guy but... yeah... I want to be the best. So... I'll just delude myself and pretend I'm Emperor anyway. With the right meds I can even see what I want too. Screw all that tactical crap and effort. I might wanna play another game too and of course I'll be Emperor there as well.

htoncic

I dunno about resetting people's points. They did earn them after all. I think shorter campaigns would do the trick. I mean, what's up with those 3 months anyway? Reset campaigns weekly, methinks.

SantieClaws

We should be able to do what they do in the real world with Emperors who have become unpopular Exile them to Stros M'Kai or assasinate them.

tanthil

If they reset when they became emporer then everyone would get it and it would be trivial. no doubt its a terrible system as is but wouldnt be any better that way. Its just a system that wasnt given any thought when they put it in, like so much else

Valn

tanthil wrote: »

If they reset when they became emporer then everyone would get it and it would be trivial. no doubt its a terrible system as is but wouldnt be any better that way. Its just a system that wasnt given any thought when they put it in, like so much else

that would make the game more competitive. right now its just the same top people over and over, everyone else has given up effort to try catch up with them, and they wont because these top 10 play 24/7

tengri

Two changes:
* When you become emperor this instantly costs half of your points - however, you can decline the promotion once (e.g. RL reasons) if you want and will be pumped down point-wise to 5th place.

* Because of the point loss you get guaranteed time to actually be the top dog... say 12h account playtime or 2 days real time - whatever runs out first; keep ownership during this time is irrelevant. After that window keep ownership kicks in again.

Valn

tengri wrote: »

Two changes:
* When you become emperor this instantly costs half of your points - however, you can decline the promotion once (e.g. RL reasons) if you want and will be pumped down point-wise to 5th place.

* Because of the point loss you get guaranteed time to actually be the top dog... say 12h account playtime or 2 days real time - whatever runs out first; keep ownership during this time is irrelevant. After that window keep ownership kicks in again.

illl pay you 100k gold if you decline the promotion and let me be emperor

tengri

Valn wrote: »

illl pay you 100k gold if you decline the promotion and let me be emperor

Sure, that's your own decision - but you can only do it once; when you crawl to the top again the second time you will be promoted no matter what.

Kybotica

I think a better option would be to make it so that each person on the leaderboards has a time limit on how often they can become emperor. On top of that put a system in place to ensure that no emperor out of say a group of three separate "crowning events" can be the same person. Having both a weeklong "you-cannot-be-emperor-again" cap AND a "you cannot become emperor again until 'x' other players have been crowned" system in place would mitigate the issues of people who game or have gamed the system getting near permanent ownership of the emperor title/position while still preserving the integrity of that title as prestigious and somewhat difficult to earn. Not everybody could get it, but it would at least be feasible to do so.

cjmarsh725b14_ESO

Aren't they reseting when the campaigns are over?

Szx

Wtf get punished for Play more pvp as u did? Or better play less and get all? Stupid idea.. Wait for Campaign reset and go with a good grp 1million points easy in1-2 days

Kybotica

cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »

Aren't they reseting when the campaigns are over?

Yes, however this will not solve the problem. There are those who abuse the system, either by paying off guilds in other factions to farm alliance points, by abusing quests when they're broken, or by running solo and just spamming worthless AoE abilities to get credit for kills.

Either way, people who do those things are at a distinct advantage for being crowned, and their playstyle is counter to what PvP should be like. Cooperation should be rewarded, not punished. The fact that a solo player can gain more AP for avoiding a group than those in a group can get is evidence of another linked but different issue.

Putting limits like I suggested would allow for people who work hard and do so legitimately to surpass those who choose to abuse.

Szx

Emp is the or better should be the most honorable title in pvp. So at lest just the best player/most time played player get it. Rly simple and this system is good

Turelus

The campaigns reset every 90days, I believe there is one which resets every week now, wait for these resets and everyone will once again been on even footing.

Please don't penalise those who have invested time and effort into their points and PVP ranking because some newer players are upset they have to work harder or joined the game/campaign midway through.

AlexDougherty

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

Yep, always the same.

3 people on Ebonheart EU got it repeatedly.

Hilariously, one of them quit the game completely but had so many points he still got emperor twice without being around.

Ok, that's proof positive that the system needs fixing.

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

Just like in real life. Power, once gained, rarely moves.

This made me laugh.

madangrypally

I do not think they need to reset any players points. He/she earned those and that is not the issue at hand.

Once these 3 months campaigns are over they need to greatly shorten the campaign timers. 3 months were way to long.

Recommendation:
1: Campaign last 1 week.
2: Greatly improve campaign stability and lag issues.
3: Greatly reduce the amount of active campaigns.
4: Add 2-3 speciality campaigns (limited deaths as an example).
5: Make AP more worthwhile. VR bags cost scaling is insane.
6: Add some more pvp content that is scaled for more competitive pvp.

I know a lot of people are against speciality campaigns but it would add more flavor into PvP. One great example is a campaign that last 1 week that has a limited death counter. Example: A player enters Campaign Death's Wind and starts with 10 death counters. Each time that player is killed 1 death counter is removed and once that players death counter reaches 0 then he no longer can join that campaign. (Last man standing sort of thing).

Wyldman

Okay, I know this post is an older thread and I will likely catch a lot of flak for this post but I believe that new attention needs to be drawn to this topic.

There is a REASON the same people (especially right now) become Emperor over and over and over again ... PvP is VERY "broken". They are cheating/boosting, simple as that. This is not just my opinion it is also FACT. I will have the good taste not to mention names (active PvP'rs already know the people who I am referring to and all you have to do to see who they are is look and see who the ppl are who alternate as emperor) but there is a group who all have characters in 2-3 different alliances. What they do is: get a number of their guys on a different alliance in same campaign and then they take turns killing each other to boost. We have SEEN and watched them do it and heard some brag about it. Not to mention ONE of them who is always Emperor has told some of us in groups what he is doing stating "the only reason he came to this game from Destiny was because ESO was so easy to cheat and exploit". Then, they will send "spies" over to the other alliance they are currently fighting who will feed them "intelligence" and tell them where the easiest targets to gank are and then when their buddies arrive to gank us, the "spies" will literally just sit down in chairs or run circles around us and watch us get annihilated as they will not fight and NONE of the other alliance (their buddies) will attack them and they know it. Lastly, they "share/alternate" being Emperor. Watch and see and MOST of the people who run around with the Emperor are ALL former Emperors (wink wink, nudge nudge). Once they take everything on one alliance, they switch sides and come in and take it all back and boost their characters in THAT alliance and just bounce back and forth. They are arrogant and very open about it as they boast ESO will never do anything about it. I Don't know if anyone will care or try to stop this flagrant, "in-your-face" cheating, but I know there are a LOT of us who wish they would.

Now, although I KNOW these guys are cheating and boosting I still PvP because I do enjoy it. But if you have ANY aspirations of becoming Emperor ... HA, forget about it, won't happen. These guys are basically the ESO mafia and work very closely together to control PvP. Hopefully ESO/Zenimax will take notice of this issue and fix it ... hopefully. But unless/until they figure out a way to stop these cheaters ... the ESO PvP Mafia will never be dethroned.

Turelus

Boosting has been deemed an exploit in the past by ZOS. If you know the names, report them.

Also from the players I have known to become Emperor's many of them PVP like crazy in legit ways to earn the AP to be in the top ranks. I remember this thread from last year and most it basically came down to "I want to be an Emperor, but I don't want to compete/work for it".

It's meant to be something special obtained by those who are good and dedicated.

gimpdrb14_ESO

i say once you become an emperor, and you loose said emperor ship you can no longer become an emperor till the campaign is over.

Wyldman

Turelus wrote: »

Boosting has been deemed an exploit in the past by ZOS. If you know the names, report them.

Also from the players I have known to become Emperor's many of them PVP like crazy in legit ways to earn the AP to be in the top ranks. I remember this thread from last year and most it basically came down to "I want to be an Emperor, but I don't want to compete/work for it".

It's meant to be something special obtained by those who are good and dedicated.

OH, many have recently reported them including myself and they ARE boosting. So maybe ESO will nail them.

I agree with what you say "players I have known to become Emperor's many of them PVP like crazy in legit ways to earn the AP to be in the top ranks" you are correct, SOME do. On our particular server however "Haderus" what I have stated here is true. Emperorship is won by cheating ... straight-up.

dday3six

I think having shorter campaign lengths would be better than resetting points during the campaign. I get that some people spy between alliances or work together. However getting Emperor is mostly about being able to spend more time PVPing than others.

Wyldman

Hard to ignore that fact when one of those who are constantly Emperor have flat-out told others what he and his friends are doing.

Wyldman

dday3six wrote: »

I think having shorter campaign lengths would be better than resetting points during the campaign. I get that some people spy between alliances or work together. However getting Emperor is mostly about being able to spend more time PVPing than others.

My advice to anyone who does not believe what I have said ... go play Haderus and see for yourself.

Minnesinger

What if they deserve their spot for being really good/ playing more than you? Also the end of the campaign rewards they truly deserve would be gone. This isn´t a serious demand. if you are so power hungry you better invest time in the game and stop this. You know some people would have to stop playing for the time some other is crowned emperor if they don´t want to lose their ap.

I am sure this won´t happen.

Edit. So someone necroed an old thread I bit the bait. So long.