Do you use staves because they are more effective or because you want to?

pecheckler

Keeping it simple with two options instead of a convoluted poll. Please comment on the nuances of staff magicka/staff imbalance and your build, for example for damage dealers using restoration staves or templar healers who want to use stamina weapons.

MasterSpatula

Both. My Sorc uses destrostaff because that's what I wanted for her. My Templar uses Destrostaff to be an effective healer, I pretty much have to be a light-armored caster all the time.

Selstad

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

I wouldn't mind that all options were viable and fun, but so far it seems like magica and spell damage is on everyone. I don't understand why per example nightblade assassin abilities are relying on magica when they are so to speak melee.

I sort of see a semblance of logic, but it's kind of game breaking as well having so many things tied up to magica. Regardless of how you build, you'll eventually end up with relying on magica some way or the other, not because you want to, but because the game wants to. Stamina feels lacking in many aspects.

nudel

I use staves because I like being a caster. I do however want stamina weapons/ attacks to be more effective. But I do not mean that I want staves/ spells nerfed. Just buff physical attacks and skills to bring them more in line.

nerevarine1138

My VR7 main doesn't use staves. Strange that there's no option for that...

redwoodtreesprite

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

I use resto staffs even on my NB, because I desperately need magicka. Used to use bows, until I realized I could do as much damage with a resto staff. No real point in using bows...

phaneub17_ESO

All my characters use a melee weapon in their primary hand then swap to a resto staff in the other. The game is so magicka focused and what's the point of playing a class if you don't utilize their class skills to some degree, it becomes pointless to use a melee weapon in the long run. Besides having another healing option for the swap on the side is always a plus regardless of what you're doing. So I have a sword & board templar light armor, a dual wielder nightblade medium armor, a bow user sorcerer light armor, and a two-hander dragon knight heavy armor, but again using resto staff in everyone's weapon swap.

FrauPerchta

I want to be able to use staves as a melee weapon.

SFBryan18

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

I use one because I am a Mage (and magic alone doesn't cut it).

dennissomb16_ESO

Pure melee weapons for me as that is the play style I wanted. it does make me far less effective then I could be however

ForTheRealm

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

My Sorc, Temp and DK use staffs as main weapons - because I found they are most effective in those builds. Only my NB is levelled in stamina-based build.
And I agree there should be more freedom and for that stamina-based weapons/abilities should be more effective.

Shiaxi

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

as secondary weapon, resto staff

my dk rarely needs the healing but I use it mostly to help out other players in boss camps / public dungeons

actually use a sword and board stamina build.. and love it... don't care that it's not the most effective, I love how she plays..

Sangeet

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

If you get a weapon that uses magica for DPS's then you get better synergies with your class skills, as both are aimed at max magica.
When you choose to use max stamina for bow /dual wield you get the problem, that you cant use your class skills effectivly, because they are based around max magica.

I would recommend a passive for all classes, where you can select if you like to see your damage be build around max magica or max stamina.

So both would be viable, and the player could select which one he likes more, without gimping himself for class skills.

I55UE5

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

In MMOs, I have always used what I like on a character, and what fits them cosmetically in my mind. Never have I made a switch due to something being inherently strong, and never will. If what I am using is "underpowered" I do the best I can with it and maximize my skill with it, and usually have hopes of that thing getting some love in a patch or update.

I main a stamina build NB Werewolf right now. I realize I am setting myself up for failure, but I like my character this way and have hopes these things will be touched upon in the future.

AlexDougherty

Neither, my sorc starts with his staff attack or his crystal shards attact, but after that only uses his staff when he runs out of juice.

None of my other characters use a staff.

Loco_Mofo

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

NB who started out as a medium armor DW/bow burst spec.

Have now been reduced to light armor destro/resto staff semi DPS build.

KiwiKutKu

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

I'm working on an alt Templar this is

Restoring light, Sword and Shield and Heavy Armour

When my mouse isn't being awkward over the lack of a mat... it appears to work pretty well so far. I think once stamina is balanced better I'll have a pretty solid tank-self-healing build.

Though my main is pure healer so Restro staff and Light armour seemed like the natural option for the look I wanted.

RylukShouja

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

My VR7 main doesn't use staves. Strange that there's no option for that...

Maybe because the poll is meant to be taken by people using staves, not other weapons? A man wouldn't take a poll meant for women, would he? A plumber wouldn't be talked to by the electrician's union when they are polling for issues the electrical trade has, right?

Anyways...I play a destro/resto staff build because I like the irony of a vampire pyromancer (and always have) and like to have a backup healing bar.

Appalachian

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

Altmer/Sorc = Destro Staff, for me ... now to try slotting a Resto staff in 2nd slot bar ... I see a climb to get points in there.

Appalachian

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Neither, my sorc starts with his staff attack or his crystal shards attact, but after that only uses his staff when he runs out of juice.

None of my other characters use a staff.

Hmmm ... I didn't pick Crystal Shards (I'm only lvl 35) ... I was browsing Youtube about the game before I first started playing (just a week now/no Beta,) saw a few Sorcs saying they later dropped CS for something diff ... but my only knockback is with my Flame Staff, or when a spell procs the flame related perks.

Advice? [Thanks/sorry to fork the OP]

Catflinger

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

My main is a highly conventional sorcerer/mage staff-wielding, cloth-wearing type of character, 100% by choice. I decided on this after playing in the beta and not from any kind of crowd-following FOTM decision-making.

My DK alt is sword and board and does not use a staff, at least as of yet.

Lisa

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

I'm a Templar, but I prefer the Restoration Staff for my second slot's healing abilities.

Enkshar

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

Wished i could have voted both options. Im a healer so i chose the resto staff for it and thats why a voted the second option.

The reason i would also vote for first option is that for solo pve i was forced to go resto staff to be able to play higher vr maps. I found that i couldnt go with weapon skills as i need stamina for defense. Mobs spam heavy attacks and spells and do lots of dmg with even light attacks, so missing a block or interrupt means instant death.

AlexDougherty

Appalachian wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Neither, my sorc starts with his staff attack or his crystal shards attact, but after that only uses his staff when he runs out of juice.

None of my other characters use a staff.

Hmmm ... I didn't pick Crystal Shards (I'm only lvl 35) ... I was browsing Youtube about the game before I first started playing (just a week now/no Beta,) saw a few Sorcs saying they later dropped CS for something diff ... but my only knockback is with my Flame Staff, or when a spell procs the flame related perks.

Advice? [Thanks/sorry to fork the OP]

Crystal shards is one of the early abilities, and because I'm doing all four classes, my sorceror is only level 17, so I can't offer any advice.

That said I went for crystal shards because it offered a big punch, but it's casting time means you use it as an opener mainly, the morph offers a chance for an instant cast, but you have to be desperate normally to use it.

By level 35 I imagine it would offer minimal gains, which is when people would start switching it which something faster to cast. Especially if they have some decent passives in another skill line.

Vorkk8383

My character uses a staff because they are more effective, but I would rather use stamina weapons.

Not saying I want to use stamina weapons but Destro/resto staff is pretty much the healing templar's go to...

Nickhead420

My 16 sorcerer uses a flame staff, but I feel like that's fitting. My VR7 templar I leveled almost completely with dual resto staves. My intention was to be a healer with a decent questing dps skill set. I tried 2H, DW and 1H+shield. None of them seemed to be as effective as using a resto staff, even with Aedric Spear abilities. I've recently been using DW swords and a 5M/2L armor set for PvP tat's turning out to be a ton of fun, but it completely sucks for PvE. I've pretty much given up on questing on my templar. I've already spent well over 50k in respecs and have no intention of paying another 20k to try making another build that doesn't work.

Mephos

pecheckler wrote: »

Keeping it simple with two options instead of a convoluted poll. Please comment on the nuances of staff magicka/staff imbalance and your build, for example for damage dealers using restoration staves or templar healers who want to use stamina weapons.

Not gives the option "I don´t use any staffs at all" .. stupid thread is stupid

Blackwidow

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

The poll should have both. I use them because i like playing a real caster. I also like that i have stamina to roll and dodge.

Capn Shatter

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

Mephos wrote: »

Not gives the option "I don´t use any staffs at all" .. stupid thread is stupid

"Stupid" is wanting to vote on a poll that doesn't apply to you, and commenting on a forum about staff use that you obviously don't use. Some of you kids just need to go outside and play pretend Jedi's with paper towel tubes during server downtime.

fyendiarb16_ESO

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

My nightblade uses a staff because it's kinda hard for her to heal without one . I do not use a destro staff alternate as of yet and doubt I will. It may be more viable than other options, but just doesn't fit that character.

Playing fotm builds has never appealed to me either, so I doubt I will change this any time soon.

Appalachian

My character uses a staff because that's the way I want to play.

Enkshar wrote: »

Wished i could have voted both options. Im a healer so i chose the resto staff for it and thats why a voted the second option.

The reason i would also vote for first option is that for solo pve i was forced to go resto staff to be able to play higher vr maps. I found that i couldnt go with weapon skills as i need stamina for defense. Mobs spam heavy attacks and spells and do lots of dmg with even light attacks, so missing a block or interrupt means instant death.

Enkshar, at what level did you start the Resto Staff? 15? I just had a nice blue Resto Staff drop 10 mins before maintenance and wondering how to go at it, now at level 35.

/thanks