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VR 7 Quest omg
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So im always afraid meeting trolls in this game, the self regan and +8k health is to much for me, without using a ultimative, which in this quest wont get active enough, since they are the only mobs around to kill.
The quest is about collecting a mantel of some kind.
The trolls made me call a friend to help, and after the quest was over we were both speechless for a while.
No way in hell, I would had been able to do the final boss alone as long as vr mobs are like this in pve, this will become unplayable for many, we were two people dealing with this boss, and it took us like 5-8 minuets to do, if I had done that alone, I would had run out of health/mag or what ever not being able to live to tell the tail
Im all for that vr mobs need to be strong in dungeons/craglorn/trails and so on, but come on, solo pve that has to change, or you will lose the casual players way to fast when they hit vr levels.
Im not going anywhere, I like beating myself up
The quest is about collecting a mantel of some kind.
The trolls made me call a friend to help, and after the quest was over we were both speechless for a while.
No way in hell, I would had been able to do the final boss alone as long as vr mobs are like this in pve, this will become unplayable for many, we were two people dealing with this boss, and it took us like 5-8 minuets to do, if I had done that alone, I would had run out of health/mag or what ever not being able to live to tell the tail
Im all for that vr mobs need to be strong in dungeons/craglorn/trails and so on, but come on, solo pve that has to change, or you will lose the casual players way to fast when they hit vr levels.
Im not going anywhere, I like beating myself up
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✭I know how to play, and I will finish the quests, Im just concern about the casual players now more then ever.1 -
Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.0 -
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and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months. They haven't made the endgame accessible to those who aren't willing grind the ever loving crap out of everything and on top of that, spend the absurd amount of money to respecAmsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
Edited by born2beagator on May 31, 2014 4:42PM0 -
Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭born2beagator wrote: »
and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months.Amsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
No it will go FTP if they make it too easy to get VR12... you seem to have it the wrong way around.0 -
JosephChip✭✭✭That quest is particularly hard and not indicative of the general difficulty of VR content. In fact it is hard even in non-VR content for AD players.
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born2beagator✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »born2beagator wrote: »
and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months.Amsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
No it will go FTP if they make it too easy to get VR12... you seem to have it the wrong way around.
and here is the first L2P post.1 -
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✭the worst thing about it all, now I can just go to craglorn and grind xp/gear there, which is a shame since I also love queAmsel_McKay wrote: »born2beagator wrote: »
and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months.Amsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
No it will go FTP if they make it too easy to get VR12... you seem to have it the wrong way around.
thats the problem they have made it way to easy to get to VR12, just go to craglorn...... its soooooo easy to grind levels there. some dungeons give 1.000.000 xp no kidding we counted to complete. Takes like a hour to do.
then if we go back to solo pve questing, that will take days.
So your statement is false so far
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born2beagator✭✭✭✭What I WANT is solo pve questing with grouping mixed in for dungeons. What this game has done has made VR content inaccessible for me because you have to group for regular trash mobs.2
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭born2beagator wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »born2beagator wrote: »
and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months.Amsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
No it will go FTP if they make it too easy to get VR12... you seem to have it the wrong way around.
and here is the first L2P post.
Its not a L2P post. Its a casual gamer comment if there is something to still do in the game the casual will stay and "try" to get there. IF the game gives away amazing epic items at the start the casuals get to the end game too quick and are at end game. That is why WOW and EQ had so many people who played casual and epic hours, then both games caved in and gave away items that were too amazing and it was too easy to get to max level...
I played EQ both ways casual and epic (48 hours PoG raids best cleric on the server etc) and the game gave away items and made it too easy the game lost its drive.
Casual does not mean make the game easy it means we have less time to play so it should take us longer...
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born2beagator✭✭✭✭I never said I wanted it to be easy. I said I wanted it to be accessible for those who don't want to group to take down regular trash mobs. As it is, they are too difficult.1
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭Its a VR7+ (if not a ++) mob it should be super hard. Casuals can ask for groups as well, see someone else trying to take them on ask for a group. You also dont "have to" do that area or quests level to VR8 and try again. I dont know I think the VR stuff is supposed to be hard that is why they call it VR levels.
Must be because I am used to hard games and set my single player games to the hardest mode, I love the challenge.Edited by Amsel_McKay on May 31, 2014 4:56PM0 -
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✭thats my point to, thats why I only saying this for solo pve, that vr mobs trash are way to strong for the casual player, almost even for me.
Its so easy just to jump back to craglorn and live there, when things gets hard, and you need to clam yourself down, take a breather, and then go back fully geared and kick butt.
Which I have a feeling the game mechanics were never made for.1 -
ShintaiDK✭✭✭One VR5 quest in Cyrodill actually requires you to kill 2 trolls. Utterly impossible for me as a VR11. I had to be "creative" with the game mechanics for it.0 -
Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭One VR5 quest in Cyrodill actually requires you to kill 2 trolls. Utterly impossible for me as a VR11. I had to be "creative" with the game mechanics for it.
Sounds fun! I love that challenge... just like when we found a way to kill the "unkillable" sleeper before he was supposed to be attacked...0 -
dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭There is a certain amount of VR basic solo questing (not a lot) where it is simply easier to get one friend to help (trolls is a good example). Even the occasional public dungeon that is all Troll type mobs. It doesn't happen a ton. Unfortunately right now the VR zones are pretty empty so you don't get the usual people around in the same area/quest0
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Sounds frustrating.Amsel_McKay wrote: »One VR5 quest in Cyrodill actually requires you to kill 2 trolls. Utterly impossible for me as a VR11. I had to be "creative" with the game mechanics for it.
Sounds fun! I love that challenge... just like when we found a way to kill the "unkillable" sleeper before he was supposed to be attacked...
No thanks. Not everyone wants a huge challenge with every fight. grouping isn't even a viable option now because VR zones below craglorn are deserted. If zen caters only to the hardcore "I like a challenge" players in endgame, they will lose my sub, and many others
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »let me guess Amsel DK player?
light / Templar / Healer main
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✭I just know people already complained about the issue before patch, for me I had it like yeah come on L2P the game, I were tearing the bosses in first try almost all the time. Like Molag bal.
Now with the change I suddenly see where they are coming from. Keep in mine im only talking about trash mobs being a hell and when solo quest becomes unplayable for the main public, I get worried this game will become a ghost town fast, and only the hardcore gamers like you Amsel is backi.
where the fun in that, nobody is gonna pad you on the back say way to go, you are so great and bow to you, for that accomplishment.
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »I regularly solo trolls on my dual-wield/bow Nightblade. So while I know you don't want to hear that this is an issue with your playstyle, it clearly is.
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Darrett✭✭✭✭It's a simple problem; VR creatures deal too much damage because player mitigation is too low. This creates a DPS race between the players and the creatures, which makes staves and rapid spammable AoE the way to go.
Increase soft caps on armor and resist, rework mitigation from armor/resist values to provide more benefit as values increase, and increase the effectiveness of the Heavy Armor armor passives and Light Armor resist passives, along with giving Medium Armor a dodge bonus in passives.
It could be in game by the end of the week if they were properly prioritizing.0 -
Dagus✭✭✭born2beagator wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »born2beagator wrote: »
and if this is true the game will be F2P on PC in the next 3 months.Amsel_McKay wrote: »VR ranks are not for casual... That is the way I looked at it and play the other alliances 1-50 and stop at VR1. As a casual I dont care about the VR12 "end game" to be competitive you cant be casual as well.
No it will go FTP if they make it too easy to get VR12... you seem to have it the wrong way around.
and here is the first L2P post.
but he's right.
if you force feed everyone a max level character you end up with more bored people faster.
you need your game to be dificult enough to take great lengths of time to cap out, thereby giving you more time to release endgame content for those newly capped people.
I'd love to see them, just as a way to troll us
release higher level content, up to V20 for example, and then durring the very next day, release up to V30 and tell everyone "come on guys, you wanted content, you got content."RAWR!!!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭born2beagator wrote: »Difficult yes. But not so difficult as to cause frustration
The only things that have been difficult enough to cause frustration have been bugged encounters. This thread is about trolls, which are not bugged and are easily defeatable at Veteran levels.
Oh, and I'm a casual player. I just also like games to not be mindless click-fests.----
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