So you are raging about bolt escape - may i introduce you to refreshing path ....

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

so all you nerv-bat swinging people, may i introduce you to



Refreshing Path (nightblade ability):

instant, selfcast, 10 sec duration (11,5 sec with passives), magicabased

Enemies in front of player take X Magic Damage every second for 10 seconds.
Path may only be seen by player and increases movement speed 50% for duration.
Player healed for X every 1 second.


through the passives you get on activation:
6 seconds 30% higher stamina regen
by slotting it: 3% more max HP



(btw its a Buff you get, dont think of it as a short path)
and can be used hidden
you can sprint on it = fast as a rocket (outruns each horse)
no cooldown on magica reg after use



and, in the 1.1.3 preview:
Path of Darkness: This ability’s damage has been slightly increased.

it gets even buffed




i (as a sorc) would LOVE to trade bolt escape (that buggy and laggy little ***) with its high magica cost and the cooldown on magica reg and does nothing else (due to bugs) than porting me 20 Meters) for this nifty skill that is a cool 5-in-1

Speed, Healing, Damage, faster stamina reg, more HP


now consider, where your "nerve bat" belongs

btw .... the escape mechanic of NB´s is their vanish (shadow cloak)

SirAndy

Errr, for the speed buff of "Path of Darkness" to work you need to stay inside the path rectangle/box. The moment you move outside, the speed buff goes away (comes back when you move back inside).

So, unless you find a way to constantly spam PoD right in front of you, you won't get far with that.

Bolt escape on the other hand ...
;-)

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

SirAndy wrote: »

Bolt escape on the other hand ...
;-)

we can swap them, you get my bolt escape, i get your refreshing path .... deal ?

btw if you "bolt escape" into a tiny rock, it stops you, so we are even there ^^

and: bolt escape is a straight line too (cant blink in circles ^^)

SirAndy

I have both already since i have more than one main character.

Worstluck

Yes OP, I think you are unclear on how the spell works. Not to mention the amount of times I cast it on a slight incline or decline and I get no benefit from it because it's underground. I don't even use it except for certain builds.

madangrypally

I would be careful of using Path of Darkness. A guild mate was reported for speed hacking for using it with Medium Armor and as an Orc. It made him go super fast and people reported him and he was banned for it. He got his account back but that was the reason given.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

Worstluck wrote: »

Not to mention the amount of times I cast it on a slight incline or decline and I get no benefit from it because it's underground. I don't even use it except for certain builds.

same with bolt escape, you cast it and nothing happens if you:

-have a little obstacle in front
- turn your camera during animation
- have a little lag

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

madangrypally wrote: »

I would be careful of using Path of Darkness. A guild mate was reported for speed hacking for using it with Medium Armor and as an Orc. It made him go super fast and people reported him and he was banned for it. He got his account back but that was the reason given.

hahaha, even so fast that you can outrun bots ?

joshisanonymous

Erm, Path of Darkness is nowhere near as useful for mobility/survivability as Bolt Escape. I can't stun people with it, I can't use it to become immune to CC, I have to sprint while on it to get the same sort of speed as Bolt Escape, and the healing and damage is pretty minimal. This ability is always on my bow bar because I think it has its uses, but it doesn't at all make me feel like I can zip into a crowd with it then zip back out of the crowd with little worry.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

joshisanonymous wrote: »

I can't use it to become immune to CC,

..... immune to CC, who seeded that myth

but again, lets swap, i take your path you get my bolt escape ... deal ?

Arsenic_Touch

...wow. I can't tell if the OP is being serious or not. Comparing path of darkness/refreshing path to bolt escape? I mean come on....

1. It barely does any damage, with the "buff" it's getting, it will still barely do any damage. The only way to do any damage is to be practically in someone's face.
2. It fails on any kind of deviation from a flat surface.
3. The stamina regen is negligible, it's insanely easy to hit stamina and magicka and health regen cap, or come really close to it, so the gains don't mean anything.
4. The healing doesn't always work and when it does it's not game changing.
5. You have to spec for more health.
6. The magicka costs are very high for barely any gains.
7. The increased speed is lost if you aren't in the path and are lost if you sprint through the path long before the spell finishes. The path doesn't move with you, it's a short area of effect and then it's done.

So basically, you have to spend 2 skill points for the health, 2 skill points for the stamina and 2 skill points for a negligible duration increase which doesn't do anything for mobility. Oh and 2 points to actually get refreshing path as well.

So do tell me about how over powered this ability is. I'm waiting with abated breath.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

...wow. I can't tell if the OP is being serious or not. Comparing path of darkness/refreshing path to bolt escape? I mean come on....

and your arguments why not ?
oh i see, because path is way more usefull than bolt escape, you are right

CapuchinSeven

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

...wow. I can't tell if the OP is being serious or not. Comparing path of darkness/refreshing path to bolt escape? I mean come on....

and your arguments why not ?
oh i see, because path is way more usefull than bolt escape, you are right

Bad troll is bad.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Bad troll is bad.

hm, does no nightblade wants to trade his "oh its a litte usefull but not OP" skill refreshing path for the "BIG BASSASS OP skill bolt escape" ?

Desdemonte

lol OP you're so funny in how you are trying to deflect ZOS' attention from bolt escape. But really, you should have picked another class that has skills that actually work. That would add a tiny amount of credibility to your BS sob story.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

Desdemonte wrote: »

lol OP you're so funny in how you are trying to deflect ZOS' attention from bolt escape. But really, you should have picked another class that has skills that actually work. That would add a tiny amount of credibility to your BS sob story.

and another post without any content or arguments....

vicNBitis

I doubt you'd find many NBs that wouldn't love that trade. I'd take it in a heartbeat but I have 4 NBs and I don't know which I'd give it to.

Dealdrick

rofl, so many people feeding this troll

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

vicNBitis wrote: »

I doubt you'd find many NBs that wouldn't love that trade. I'd take it in a heartbeat but I have 4 NBs and I don't know which I'd give it to.

so lets talk to ZOS to swap that 2 skills

ErilAq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ula8oi_M4Ww

vicNBitis

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

so lets talk to ZOS to swap that 2 skills

Sure. You work it out with them and let me know.

AinGeal

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

and, in the 1.1.3 preview:
Path of Darkness: This ability’s damage has been slightly increased.

it gets even buffed

In addition to what SirAndy said, I'll add that the buff to damage is coming with it being visible.

Can anyone confirm if this will cause stealth to break if you deal damage with it to an enemy?

Iorail

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

so all you nerv-bat swinging people, may i introduce you to



Refreshing Path (nightblade ability):

instant, selfcast, 10 sec duration (11,5 sec with passives), magicabased

Enemies in front of player take X Magic Damage every second for 10 seconds.
Path may only be seen by player and increases movement speed 50% for duration.
Player healed for X every 1 second.


through the passives you get on activation:
6 seconds 30% higher stamina regen
by slotting it: 3% more max HP



(btw its a Buff you get, dont think of it as a short path)
and can be used hidden
you can sprint on it = fast as a rocket (outruns each horse)
no cooldown on magica reg after use



and, in the 1.1.3 preview:
Path of Darkness: This ability’s damage has been slightly increased.

it gets even buffed




i (as a sorc) would LOVE to trade bolt escape (that buggy and laggy little ***) with its high magica cost and the cooldown on magica reg and does nothing else (due to bugs) than porting me 20 Meters) for this nifty skill that is a cool 5-in-1

Speed, Healing, Damage, faster stamina reg, more HP


now consider, where your "nerve bat" belongs

btw .... the escape mechanic of NB´s is their vanish (shadow cloak)

You have no clue on what you are even asking or saying, a pebble in the way of this skill will make us trip and break our necks, but you wouldn't understand, the same way you don't understand the skill you are so happily eager to trade.

NordJitsu

Neither skill is over powered. Both are well balanced.

But you can absolutely catch a BE Sorc with Refreshing Path.

If you have it on your Bow Bar, you'll be moving even faster (Hasty Retreat). The fact that it also heals you is just gravy.

Its not the same ability as BE (obviously) but it offers similar utility in a different way. Use this to run away, then use Dark Cloak to ensure they can never find you. Or use it to chase down the BE Sorc (if you're one of those people with an odd desire to chase every squirrel they see.)

WraithAzraiel

NERF NNNNNNNNNNEEEERRRRRFFFFFFFFF F FFFFFF

Used in a sentence: "I believe <insert inane ability you believe should be NERFED****** here> should be NERFED"

But yea, no. Nightblade is so screwed at the moment that even if it WERE as overpowered as you THINK it is. It wouldn't make up for all the other shortcomings.

Point = moot.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO

@NordJitsu‌

thx thats exactly how it is ..... at last one person with the ability to use his mind

PBpsy

The amount of stupid in the OP defies all logic.

FunkyBudda

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

Worstluck wrote: »

Not to mention the amount of times I cast it on a slight incline or decline and I get no benefit from it because it's underground. I don't even use it except for certain builds.

same with bolt escape, you cast it and nothing happens if you:

-have a little obstacle in front
- turn your camera during animation
- have a little lag

This.

Darkonflare15

Actually this skill has many purposes it is jack of all trades skill it activates damage on enemies when they are on the path which most enemies follow you so they get damage. You can sprint on it with out running out stamina too fast because of refreshing shadows passive. Then you have the morph that can heal over time. So you get speed boost, health, damage. This move maybe not a huge damage dealer but you can use it kite around enemies and dodge attacks like a night blade should it also increases sneak speed. You have open me eyes to a lot possibles. This could be a great skill. Thanks for the post.

Loco_Mofo

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

i (as a sorc) would LOVE to trade bolt escape (that buggy and laggy little ***) with its high magica cost and the cooldown on magica reg and does nothing else (due to bugs) than porting me 20 Meters) for this nifty skill that is a cool 5-in-1

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You can have it! Please take it!! Give us Bolt Escape!!!

AinGeal

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

vicNBitis wrote: »

I doubt you'd find many NBs that wouldn't love that trade. I'd take it in a heartbeat but I have 4 NBs and I don't know which I'd give it to.

so lets talk to ZOS to swap that 2 skills

I too would trade for it. Although I would like the animation to be changed from the current 'electrical' type it is now to more of a shadowy, teleport strike, type.