An idea for Zenimax

ers101284b14_ESO

I was thinking and had an idea. A lot of people enjoy subscription based MMO's. But some people do enjoy their Pay to Win models. Why not open up another Megaserver that is Free To Play? You can nickel and dime them all you want. Let the people win with their credit cards, and then they are happy.
You can use them to test our patches, or parts of content that we get. You could give them content whenever you get around to it. Don't really need GM's or bot control on it since they are happy to have sub par gameplay since they don't want to pay monthly. Then if they decide they want to pay a subscription they could make a character on a Sub based server. Don't transfer the characters but force them to start over again. Or just charge the F2P'ers out the rear to transfer. That would give you tons of money when you start charging them to buy lockpicks to open chests, or charging them real money to post items on the auction house like an Ebay thing. Just keep it seperate from Sub Based Servers.

Just and idea.

Arreyanne

Or we can just keep feeding them 15 dollars plus tax so they can beta test the game for the console players:::: OP Post fixed

ers101284b14_ESO

Nah I liked my idea better. Let the F2P people beta test it.

ciannait

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Nah I liked my idea better. Let the F2P people beta test it.

It's not the beta-testing or lack thereof that's killing this game, it's that the issues discovered during such don't get fixed.

ers101284b14_ESO

ciannait wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Nah I liked my idea better. Let the F2P people beta test it.

It's not the beta-testing or lack thereof that's killing this game, it's that the issues discovered during such don't get fixed.

So give the F2P people access to parts of it that you think need to be tested, let them test it for a while then when you have an actual fix take it off and let the Sub people get the full content. The f2p people can have the full content later on, like 6 months later

Arreyanne

LOL If Tera ran their game like you propose they'd have shut down a year ago

ers101284b14_ESO

I played Tera, They should have shut down 2 years ago. Besides Like I said its just an idea. Making the test server into a F2P server could be profitable and give them a place and plenty of people to actually test, and fix, and new people at the company a place to learn.

HandofBane

They already have trouble managing to successfully maintain a subscription base system without charging people multiple times for a single sub - what makes you think they can maintain both a sub system *and* a f2p/cash shop system at the same time without having further issues?

Akhratos

You give something to people for free.

Then you charge other people for the same thing.

Other people becomes angry.

You dont charge any people any more.


It would be stupid even for ZOS.

ers101284b14_ESO

Archaon wrote: »

You give something to people for free.

Then you charge other people for the same thing.

Other people becomes angry.

You dont charge any people any more.


It would be stupid even for ZOS.

They wouldn't give it to them. Just let them test a part of it then take it back off.

Or better yet sell patches as DLC for the f2p crowd. Play Craglorn for only $9.99

Nighkomoro

While I do like the idea of a f2p server being seperate from a p2p server, I do not think the whole idea of P2W is fun. It shows no skill, no motivation to be strong, no desire to be at the top through work, time, and effort. It just means the person with the deepest pockets will win all the time every time. Besides, Im pretty sure Zenimax already said they were'nt doing a Cash Shop

ers101284b14_ESO

Nighkomoro wrote: »

While I do like the idea of a f2p server being seperate from a p2p server, I do not think the whole idea of P2W is fun. It shows no skill, no motivation to be strong, no desire to be at the top through work, time, and effort. It just means the person with the deepest pockets will win all the time every time. Besides, Im pretty sure Zenimax already said they were'nt doing a Cash Shop

That's why it should be seperate. Just let it chill over there ----> like the rejected *** cousin no one talks about and why they shouldn't be able to transfer the character

Akhratos

You cant cut content from a test server behind a paywall (f2p).

What kind of proper testing would be a f2p server full of jobless teenagers with half the content buried under a cash shop? Because thats the f2p model, and I doubt its nearly compatible with a TEST server.

I dont mean to be rude but that should be the worst idea to run a PTS.

Srugzal

Nighkomoro wrote: »

It just means the person with the deepest pockets will win all the time every time.

That sounds too much like real life...

Mondo

How about call that Server Anarchy Online ?

AlexDougherty

Archaon wrote: »

You give something to people for free.
Then you charge other people for the same thing.
Other people becomes angry.
You dont charge any people any more.

^This^

A case in point: Dilbert Author Adam Scott released a free Ebook copy of an old book of his, as a sales trick to get people interested in the sequel. The people who were interested wanted to know how to get the sequel for free too, and nobody actually bought it.

If you give something for free, then people expect it all for free. You can wheel out terms like beta testing, and sub-par all you like, but it doesn't change this problem.

Also if they are beta testing, it means our fixes are coming slower. I want the fixes coming faster not slower.