Should Zenimax Hold Back 1.1 on the EU Server ?

Phantax

Given the amount of issues with 1.1 on the NA server should Zenimax knowingly release 1.1 on the EU server?
Would they be better off just doing the server maintenance and pushing 1.1 once the issues have been sorted out?

Atreidus

Bring down the NA server, fix that and release both

Your Thread is outdated. It is 1.1.2.
And the EU Server isnt even online.

/edit: but as fasr as i have seen there alrerady are enough votes etc. And there shall be an fix soon.

Zarkaz

Bring down the NA server, fix that and release both

Not even a question, fix both NAU!

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

Atreidus wrote: »

Your Thread is outdated. It is 1.1.2.
And the EU Server isnt even online.

My point exactly, just finish the EU maintenance then bring the server back up without the new patch. Why knowingly put a faulty patch up when all it will do is cause more issues / anger

Oh and nice quick edit there...lol

TheGrandAlliance

....................................not another poll.

david271749

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

....................................not another poll.

Lol

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

....................................not another poll.

And your point (if you have one) is ???
A POLL is a quick/easy visual representation of general feeling, certainly easier than reading through miles of posts. And if people have a 'valid' point they are always welcome to add to the discussion.

EDIT-
It would seem so far to be a close call (certainly not what I was expecting)

TheGrandAlliance

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

Leggit

Yes, go ahead and release it

release then add a hotfix....lets just get the over and done with plz.

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

david271749

I like polls. The only duplicates I've seen are the ones that are like, "Do we have too many polls?" Or my personal favorite, "Is this a poll?" Polls are fun! I do think they need to be in their own section of the forums though. That way whiners can go back to whining in peace without polls stealing their spotlight from them.

TheGrandAlliance

First of all... the premise of your poll is false: The maintance is underway and cannot be reversed.


Second there are 5+ polls just on main page that talk about "whether 1.1.2 is a good idea or not". Adding the words "on EU" doesn't change the premise that the poll is about 1.1.2.


http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101042/rate-this-game-on-a-1-10-scale

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100940/are-you-happy-with-the-direction-eso-is-going

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100963/how-many-unsubbed-because-of-path

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100682/do-you-like-any-of-the-nerfs-that-came-with-the-new-patch

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

Phantax wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

Somebody has just started a similar POLL...lol (but MINE was FIRST)

ForTheRealm

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

Phantax wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

Don't worry Phantax, "TheGrandAlliance" also trolls other polls, e.g.: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101047/do-you-see-veteran-content-harder-after-the-1-1-2-patch#latest

So I'd say - just ignore him.

david271749

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

First of all... the premise of your poll is false: The maintance is underway and cannot be reversed.


Second there are 5+ polls just on main page that talk about "whether 1.1.2 is a good idea or not". Adding the words "on EU" doesn't change the premise that the poll is about 1.1.2.


http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101042/rate-this-game-on-a-1-10-scale

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100940/are-you-happy-with-the-direction-eso-is-going

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100963/how-many-unsubbed-because-of-path

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100682/do-you-like-any-of-the-nerfs-that-came-with-the-new-patch

How does "rate this game" have anything to do with this poll?

david271749

piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

Don't worry Phantax, "TheGrandAlliance" also trolls other polls, e.g.: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101047/do-you-see-veteran-content-harder-after-the-1-1-2-patch#latest

So I'd say - just ignore him.

There are a few poll trolls out there. They do help more than harm. Their comments just boost your poll back to the top for more attention. Lol

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

Don't worry Phantax, "TheGrandAlliance" also trolls other polls, e.g.: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101047/do-you-see-veteran-content-harder-after-the-1-1-2-patch#latest

So I'd say - just ignore him.

I am mate. Not even going to get involved in a debate with somebody who is obviously trolling.
I appreciate some people may not like / want polls, that's their opinion. But when all they can to is try to derail an OP it's kinda sad.

BrassRazoo

Yes, go ahead and release it

No patch up, come join the party in VR zones.
BYO Soul Gems.

LordEcks

Phantax wrote: »

My point exactly, just finish the EU maintenance then bring the server back up without the new patch. Why knowingly put a faulty patch up when all it will do is cause more issues / anger

Oh and nice quick edit there...lol

Because I want to learn more German swear words. Keep that patch comin! I'll check their forums about an hour after their game is back up.

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

LordEcks wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

My point exactly, just finish the EU maintenance then bring the server back up without the new patch. Why knowingly put a faulty patch up when all it will do is cause more issues / anger

Oh and nice quick edit there...lol

Because I want to learn more German swear words. Keep that patch comin! I'll check their forums about an hour after their game is back up.

lol

Looks like you'll get your wish. Honestly didn't think we had so many resilient players ready to risk all on the new patch...rofl

Phantax

No, wait till its fixed then release 1.1

david271749 wrote: »

piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

THe point is: IF you have 19387419048710324731 polls then none of them are useful. How many people voted cross poll? How many polls until people give up? So on so forth.


Instead: ALL VOTES OF TEH SAME TOPIC SHOULD BE COMPRESED INTO ONE POLL!

....and people who studied Statistics (advanced) in school would understand. YOu cannot get reliable information if you spread out the sample size among 183247194378 polls.


It doesn't happen IRL.... nor does it serve any use here. If you want to find truth then do so in a way that is LOGICAL.

And how many POLLS asking this question have you seen?

Don't worry Phantax, "TheGrandAlliance" also trolls other polls, e.g.: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101047/do-you-see-veteran-content-harder-after-the-1-1-2-patch#latest

So I'd say - just ignore him.

There are a few poll trolls out there. They do help more than harm. Their comments just boost your poll back to the top for more attention. Lol

I'd rather have no comments at all unless they were constructive (or maybe humorous).
I am of the same mind that polls do help, quick and easy data is always useful.
I am still surprised though that more people would choose to go ahead with launch, rather than wait (but hey, majority rule and all that)