Can we have a whine and cry forum please?

Cogo

Even though I am a champion of true free speech, I am having more and more problems shifting through garbage posts who has no meaning what so ever or then cry about something, whatever the flavour of the day is.

There are quite a lot of good discussions I am trying to follow, and then BOM "This game sucks, I am gonna unsub". And its the same dude who said it 3 times in 2 months or something?

Maybe some people just need to let out steam? Give them a section for that, cause lately more and more interesting discussions has started here which I follow. Sometimes put my word in, or just listen. Good or bad. But not like 5 year olds who just got their ice cream taken away?

tanthil

I wonder why people keep saying things like that?

Slash8915

After seeing all of the issues with today's patch, I'm not surprised.

zaria

The general discussion forum is the whine and cry forum everywhere I have been

htoncic

C'mon pal, that's not cool. Some people get frustrated, and it's not like they have no reason to. The game has it's problems, we all know that. Some people are just more passionate than others, so they vent here. There's no reason to rub salt in the wound by calling them names.

rotatorkuf

so, OP's post would quality for the *** and whine forum?

since...he's bitching and whining?

Cogo

Maybe.

I must have missed a gigantic point. Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server but everything sounds great! And they even gonna do some loving for night blades in their own patch.

Maybe I am stupid. As I see it, ESO fixing stuff that's broken and people complain that they are doing that....

At least there are more and more discussions about real stuff lately.
If people are so unhappy, leave. There actually are quite alot of us that enjoys the game.
How can I know this? I talk to other guild leaders on the server, mostly the same story. In the start was alot of friends. some quit, mostly over bugs. But some comes back and even better new people turns up, looking for proper guilds.

I really like how the community among guilds that actually plays ESO is forming.
Lets see where this goes. I am very happy I subed for 6 months!

Slash8915

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

tilolyen_ESO

Cogo wrote: »

Maybe.

I must have missed a gigantic point. Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server but everything sounds great! And they even gonna do some loving for night blades in their own patch.

OMG.....this is pure comedy gold. So you are telling me you go out of your way to flame those having issues with the FUBAR patch and you have yet to play it because you are on the EU server? This stuff could not be any better if I made it up.

Grimkardinal

lol you haven't played the new patch yet and you talk trash on those who have and are complaining? think about that for a minute. you know what never mind can't expect you to understand.

Cogo

rotatorkuf wrote: »

so, OP's post would quality for the *** and whine forum?

since...he's bitching and whining?

Um....oops. That might be so but was not my intention.
Just like a general forum....maybe have a "Bitchatorium" where people can let off steam.

Or I have to learn to read the important stuff and ignore the other stuff, but that goes against who I am. Everyones opinion matters to me....if they have anything to back it up with.

What I see is "Blue is bad! Unsub!"

Ok, some people do not like what ESO have done/patched or whatever. But where did any kind of normal conversation go?

Night blade skill X is broken because I tried Y and it did not work as described in the skill. Is this a bug or is the disciption wrong?

Something like that maybe? Only spelled and better grammar. :-)

fiachsidhe

Cogo wrote: »

rotatorkuf wrote: »

so, OP's post would quality for the *** and whine forum?

since...he's bitching and whining?

Um....oops. That might be so but was not my intention.
Just like a general forum....maybe have a "Bitchatorium" where people can let off steam.

Or I have to learn to read the important stuff and ignore the other stuff, but that goes against who I am. Everyones opinion matters to me....if they have anything to back it up with.

What I see is "Blue is bad! Unsub!"

Ok, some people do not like what ESO have done/patched or whatever. But where did any kind of normal conversation go?

Night blade skill X is broken because I tried Y and it did not work as described in the skill. Is this a bug or is the disciption wrong?

Something like that maybe? Only spelled and better grammar. :-)

Dude...just..stop

CombatBeard

They were gonna add a wine and dine section, but after the loot nerfs it's not viable.

DakotaCoty

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

OMG BASH GOT NERFED I DEMAND A REFUND ON MY DIGITAL PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!

Let's create thousands of posts about it because ZOS needs to know that nerfing OP skills is completely out of order.

Wait...

Cogo

Grimkardinal wrote: »

lol you haven't played the new patch yet and you talk trash on those who have and are complaining? think about that for a minute. you know what never mind can't expect you to understand.

First, I am not talking trash and if I come across like that, I apologize.

I am basing this because I read a lot of posts here from people who play on the US server and like me, see positive things in the patch.

And the patch alone, tells you quite a bit. Am I not allowed to have an opinion on a patch for a game I play every day?

I lost count, but look at other threads. Most of those who claims to unsub says that "If this is true", and same as me, are on the EU server and havn't played yet.

If you like to make fun of me, Ill give you one for free. I only played DK, nothing else. I played WITH a lot of builds, and night blades are very much so among those players who does the damage in the group.

I was trying to start a serious conversation without garbage, seams like I failed, heh. Sorry.

Ok, those of you who played on US server, what is so wrong? Dont name a list, name one thing? That all players who assist with Dolmen/achor gets credit for it? Or the boost in pvp exp (I dont understand that one).

I'll concede, I know to little. What am I missing? What is so wrong?

Slash8915

DakotaCoty wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

OMG BASH GOT NERFED I DEMAND A REFUND ON MY DIGITAL PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!

Let's create thousands of posts about it because ZOS needs to know that nerfing OP skills is completely out of order.

Wait...

I personally don't give two *** about bash. I'm more worried about the NEW loading screen errors, rollbacks, buffed mobs, skill bugs, and other random bugs.

Imagine that... Someone with VALID concerns.

Sallakat

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

Wow... aren't you one happy camper... you're clearly not capable of constructive conversation so why bother even posting crap like that is beyond me.

I for one wouldn't really mind a whine and cry forum but maybe name it differently lol No but seriously the one thing I'm tired of is the Quit posts. Ok if you're frustrated and wanna vent out about it in a constructive manner, that's totally fine and deserved on some occasions. But if you unsubbed and come make a huge exit post post about it: who cares, you know.
Also what ticks me off is the amount of same topic posts. Like they won't even bother searching before starting a topic and then we have like a billion "I WANTZ AUCTION HOUSE NAOW!" topics which is just stupid.

With some tweaks to the stuff that is posted in General forum, it should work without giving heartburn to anyone, me thinks.

DakotaCoty

Slash8915 wrote: »

DakotaCoty wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

OMG BASH GOT NERFED I DEMAND A REFUND ON MY DIGITAL PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!

Let's create thousands of posts about it because ZOS needs to know that nerfing OP skills is completely out of order.

Wait...

I personally don't give two *** about bash. I'm more worried about the NEW loading screen errors, rollbacks, buffed mobs, skill bugs, and other random bugs.

Imagine that... Someone with VALID concerns.

Again, I've seen people on the NA server complain about rollbacks but we've haven't had any on the EU server. Must be an exclusive punishment for being the bitchiest country in the world with self-entitlement issues.

The fact is; I've seen multiple threads about the skill nerfs asking and demanding for refunds because of it.

I've heard about the buffed monsters, but I've also heard it's only a select few and completely excludes dungeons and bosses.

Skill bugs are being fixed, so what's the problem?

Random bugs... that's a very wide field, since every MMO has their mild and random bugs. For example, on WoW for many years, if you used 'blink' you'd fall through the texture but you didn't see people unsubbing because of that, did you?

Slash8915

I hope for your sakes that you guys don't have the same issues we have with the US server. Otherwise you'll be singing a completely different tune once you patch and log in.

Cogo

@Sallakat

What a very good post and way to express yourself. I think I got myself to blame cause I don't possess the great power of expressing myself clearly or in a good way. I just try to be honest, and polite.

Your post should been on top, not mine. I seam to attract a certain type of people, lol.

Mablung

@Cogo You do realize that you look like an ass whining about the 'whiners'?

Grimkardinal

Cogo wrote: »

I'll concede, I know to little. What am I missing? What is so wrong?

The only thing I have a problem with so far (besides rollbacks and random crashes back to log on) is the difficulty level in the normal vr zones. I like my character and the way I play him, I thought it was a challenge before, now I get killed by 2 goblins and even got taken down by 1 hagraven. This is in open world with trash monsters. The game is no longer fun for me. I had not heard of anyone complaining about the game being to easy before but they changed it without saying anything about it. People that excel at games and want every single encounter to be a challenge will say everything is fine, but a vast majority of players don't play that way.

LexonLightbringer

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.... MOMMMYY..........WAAAAAAAAAA!

Cogo

fiachsidhe wrote: »

Dude...just..stop

Stop what? Using forums discussion to talk about a very active topic I am interested in? I just wanted the junk to go away and someone explain what the hell is so wrong that so many are...yes, whining. I don't find a better word for it.

Should I stop saying what I think or pose a question because I am not on the "Zenimax is the devil" train?

Common......I dont have to tell you that these forums are here for everyone to voice their opinion. Even if you find them dumb.

Queripel

I thought games forums were meant to be used for bellyaching, to let the management know when things have gone wrong.

I know that when I do enjoy a game I play the game rather than visit the forums.

I'm only here today to bellyache about the VR1+ difficulty spike they threw at me. I can't play my character now, I just die trying to play him now lol. I've gotten really good at dying since the patch (VR2 Templar).

So I'll be here bellyaching with the rest of disgruntled customers until they fix the game and render it playable again or I'm drawn to a different game where I spend my time playing not fussing about in the forums.

Slash8915

Sallakat wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

Wow... aren't you one happy camper... you're clearly not capable of constructive conversation so why bother even posting crap like that is beyond me.

I for one wouldn't really mind a whine and cry forum but maybe name it differently lol No but seriously the one thing I'm tired of is the Quit posts. Ok if you're frustrated and wanna vent out about it in a constructive manner, that's totally fine and deserved on some occasions. But if you unsubbed and come make a huge exit post post about it: who cares, you know.
Also what ticks me off is the amount of same topic posts. Like they won't even bother searching before starting a topic and then we have like a billion "I WANTZ AUCTION HOUSE NAOW!" topics which is just stupid.

With some tweaks to the stuff that is posted in General forum, it should work without giving heartburn to anyone, me thinks.

Before 1.1.2, I would have agreed with you completely. But after trying to play and running into numerous issues, I have to say I can see why there are so many topics opened and why so many people are leaving.

Again, I hope you guys don't see all of the issues we're having. But the way it is over here, it's literally unplayable in some cases.

Clunan

I can't wait til it hits the EU, lol

tilolyen_ESO

Sallakat wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Sure, I have not played the patch yet since I am on EU server

This explains it right here. Just shut up when you have no idea what's going on.

Wow... aren't you one happy camper... you're clearly not capable of constructive conversation so why bother even posting crap like that is beyond me.

So you are taking someone to task about constructive conversation in a thread with this title, really? You guys are making this far too easy to make so many look foolish.

SirJesto

I have had zero issues with the game since April 3rd, including today's patch. Guess I'm just lucky huh.

Aeradon

Back on topic. Yes, we need that, a patch related discussion thread.

tilolyen_ESO

SirJesto wrote: »

I have had zero issues with the game since April 3rd, including today's patch. Guess I'm just lucky huh.

The BS is soo deep in this statement, I am glad I have a shovel and some boots. UNLESS you are below level 20, I guarantee you as the sky is blue you have ran into some bug / progression issue. If you cannot admit that, you are simply trolling and lying.