Werewolf (yes...sorry for another WW post)

Nuksuu

I am a bit baffled by the fixes for Werewolf in the new content/patch we are receiving.

Pack Leader love...good. I am wondering why the ultimate cost on Berserker has not also been reduced. As you can either morph to Pack Leader or Berserker, I can't fathom why one is worthy of reduced ultimate cost and the other not.Reduced stamina bonus on Savage Strength I...not so bad if it stays the same on Savage Strength II.

I've seen no official responses by ZOS on other WW threads previously about:

- Getting stuck in crouch position and beaten to death as a result.
- The lack of substantial, continued Werewolf form despite numerous devours.
- Confirmation that all passives are actually working as intended. Is damage output as stamina based something that can be confirmed? Is 'stamina stacking' working as intended for our damage?
- Any intention for fixes to losing your Ultimate (although I do see some reference to not losing player ultimates whilst zoning etc...does this apply also to WW?)

I love this game immensely. I am devoted to my choice as a Werewolf and would love to see it working as intended. I would be thrilled to see an official response acknowledging the existing problems and what consideration is being given to fixing these problems.

It would lift the spirits of what is a substantial proportion of the player population. Thanks in advance for information and response.

Nuksuu

Any other players with concerns over this or response from ZOS? I just saw a response in the NB thread from them a few minutes ago; feel free to jump in on this one

Sonoshi

My opinion:

There is zero advantage to being a vampire at this time. There are far too many enemies casting fire everywhere for them to be helpful in a group setting. Every single one I've grouped with did NOT have the glyphs on their jewelry reducing damage from fire spells. So they wipe out over and over and over, loling all the way, and complaining about fire damage being too much. You are a vampire, you take 50% more damage with fire attacks...why are you laughing?

I was a werewolf with my main for a time, but after too many complaints about it's lack of damage in PvE and people getting ticked off even if I miskeyed and popped my ult, stopped using it all together. I have no issues with others being werewolf, as it impacts group activities very little other than a few getting their panties in a twist. But as I think on it, I haven't seen people using it at all in VR.

Nuksuu

I think that people just get frustrated with the huge number of bugs which have made many label it as unplayable.

My poor devil seems to have arthritis, a bad knee or a slipped disc. Gets stuck in the crouch position all the time. He either needs a higher calcium diet or a patch/fix.

Sonoshi

Nuksuu wrote: »

I think that people just get frustrated with the huge number of bugs which have made many label it as unplayable.

My poor devil seems to have arthritis, a bad knee or a slipped disc. Gets stuck in the crouch position all the time. He either needs a higher calcium diet or a patch/fix.

Awwww!

Inupis

Werewolf is a joke. A pathetic joke.

Reenlister

Yeah, WW is still broken for all intents... I have been one for a long while, but still never have gotten to really enjoy it. The ulti issue, the inability to stay in form... Its never available when you need it, the list goes on.
I am holding out hope for a fix to this great, but so broken line.

Nuksuu

mitchbone101b14_ESO

Sonoshi wrote: »

My opinion:

There is zero advantage to being a vampire at this time.

I wear 1k fire resist and do fine. Tons of mobs do fire damage but the majority of it is easy to avoid if you are paying attention, or can be healed through. I honestly dont even think about it when playing...its that minimal to me (VR4). When/if it does start really bringing pain I will add more resist.

Saying the vamp line has no advantage because people dont consider offsetting the drawbacks seems silly to me.

Pyatra

Sonoshi wrote: »

My opinion:

There is zero advantage to being a vampire at this time. There are far too many enemies casting fire everywhere for them to be helpful in a group setting. Every single one I've grouped with did NOT have the glyphs on their jewelry reducing damage from fire spells. So they wipe out over and over and over, loling all the way, and complaining about fire damage being too much. You are a vampire, you take 50% more damage with fire attacks...why are you laughing?

I was a werewolf with my main for a time, but after too many complaints about it's lack of damage in PvE and people getting ticked off even if I miskeyed and popped my ult, stopped using it all together. I have no issues with others being werewolf, as it impacts group activities very little other than a few getting their panties in a twist. But as I think on it, I haven't seen people using it at all in VR.

No one uses it in VR, you pop it you are at a disadvantage given the limited types of actions you can do.

Sonoshi

mitchbone101b14_ESO wrote: »

Sonoshi wrote: »

My opinion:

There is zero advantage to being a vampire at this time.

I wear 1k fire resist and do fine. Tons of mobs do fire damage but the majority of it is easy to avoid if you are paying attention, or can be healed through. I honestly dont even think about it when playing...its that minimal to me (VR4). When/if it does start really bringing pain I will add more resist.

Saying the vamp line has no advantage because people dont consider offsetting the drawbacks seems silly to me.

This is my experience, and as I stated, my opinion:

I have yet to run into a single vampire player who doesn't die constantly in a group dungeon. If you don't, I'd love to play with you. Unfortunately, you seem to be in a very small percentage that actually seems to care.

Personally, I'd rather add stamina and magicka or health type glyphs to my equipment. Which is why, I do not play a vampire. My preference. Paying attention is just common sense, but there are some fire effects that you can not avoid even if you are careful. Such as huge area effects some bosses use, and those awful destruction staff shots that follow you no matter which way you dodge.

Bigswanga

I have a Dark Elf, Night Blade Vamp and I have no issues with fire. In fact I do not die easy. If anything for me being a Vamp is OP. It's my poor wolf that is lacking in every area and in dire need of change.

Nuksuu

I have to bump this. There have been explanations from ZOS about proposed Nightblade fixes, issues with other classes, Mundus stones not working, Memory leaks and a whole range of instances where they have posted comment on these forums.

If there is a thread where they definitively acknowledge all problems with WW and what concrete future course of action is being taken (as opposed to something vague), I would love to see a link posted.

I simply cannot believe that a key element of this game, so utterly broken and not working as intended has not been addressed. Information/response would be of great benefit to the very large number of players who have this sub-category of skills.

c0rp

Vamp/WW are a big part of ES games. I just cant believe they FAILED SO HARD on the design of these two forms. WW is so bad..that who ever was responsible for the balance/design of them should really be embarrassed.

Sakiri

I have three wolves. Why? WW kick ass.

Just wish they werent so... lacking.

And my berserker 3 morph with 2/2 power stone is 617 ult so they may have reduced it.