ZOS why charge 20 dollars to transfer to console?

METALPUNKS

I'm very very happy I could transfer my pc progression onto my ps4 account when the time come. Now instead of waiting 6 months to play I get to play now and it counts! Awesome thanks! That said why am I paying 20 dollars to do so. I already bought the game for 60 dollars and bought the Imperial Edition upgrade for 20. I know we get another free 30 days when we transfer which brings it down to paying 5 dollars but still why is there any charge at all? I really want to know? Is this coming from Sony so they don't lose out on any profit. I'm not sure how that all works, I just play games but I can't help but to feel it should be free. I don't mind paying for something when I need to, I just cannot see why I'm paying for a transfer, I've already payed for everything. By the time 6 months is up and the time comes for me to transfer to ps4 I will have sunk 200 dollars total into the game, well worth it in my opinion but that 5 bucks is gonna bug me. Please explain.

Reignskream

Because the computer is not the console, and you bought the game for the computer.

Be happy they're even doing something like this, as i don't believe most would. Your lucky IMO that your not paying 60 dollars for a new game.

Blackwolfe5

The way I understand it, the transfer itself is completely free of charge. But you get to buy the console version at a discount. (20$ instead of whatever the cost might be otherwise)

METALPUNKS

Reignskream wrote: »

Because the computer is not the console, and you bought the game for the computer.

Be happy they're even doing something like this, as i don't believe most would. Your lucky IMO that your not paying 60 dollars for a new game.

Ok so then the 20 dollars is for the upgrade. I'm not complaining will pay the money but you can't see where I'm coming from? I've already purchased the game. Here's the thing. I bought the pc game just so I can play on ps4 later. Once I start playing on pc I will never touch the pc version.

Would you be cool with someone charging you 20 dollars because you bought a new computer and wanted to transfer your characters to it?


Here's what would make this ok in my eyes. We pay for the transfer but can still play on pc as well if we wanted. So once you transfer does it lock out the pc version? If so why?

Reykice

Think about it like this: Their PC player base is quitting fast... they did this to get the Console players to get the game now, not in 6 months when it will be clear that most players left....

Its mostly a cash grab... they know you won`t buy it in 6 months after its clear that you have more bots than players and that people are using hacks with no way for them to stop it. So they did this to get anyone who is going to buy the game to buy it now.

They need to wait 1 year for F2P but you can bet that its coming based on the population of my guild + the trading guilds i am in.

People no longer care, then even started using the hacks in PvP in the open to steal Scrolls... they know they will get reported and maybe banned but they also know they are quitting so why not?

SFBryan18

I was surprised they made the digital console version so cheap if you buy the PC version. I bought this game on PC right after I read that, since I had been waiting for the PS4 version anyways. Level up characters before it ever comes out, and then get the console version for $20. Good deal. Now if they'd just give me a monkey too...

Loco_Mofo

You're complaining about $5?

That about right?

Reignskream

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Reignskream wrote: »

Because the computer is not the console, and you bought the game for the computer.

Be happy they're even doing something like this, as i don't believe most would. Your lucky IMO that your not paying 60 dollars for a new game.

Ok so then the 20 dollars is for the upgrade. I'm not complaining will pay the money but you can't see where I'm coming from? I've already purchased the game. Here's the thing. I bought the pc game just so I can play on ps4 later. Once I start playing on pc I will never touch the pc version.

Would you be cool with someone charging you 20 dollars because you bought a new computer and wanted to transfer your characters to it?


Here's what would make this ok in my eyes. We pay for the transfer but can still play on pc as well if we wanted. So once you transfer does it lock out the pc version? If so why?

I don't see where your coming from, because if I want to play a game for the computer, I buy it for the computer. If i want to play a game on the console, I buy it on the console.

I never buy the same game for both systems. It's the same game, why waste money? By your logic you should be able to xfer for free because you paid for the game on PC already. That is your own fault I'm sorry to say, as you were too impatient and couldn't wait for the PS4 release.

Why would anybody charge me 20 dollars to xfer my chars over from one pc to another when all i would have to do is install the game and log on with my account, that logic makes no sense, and you can't ask a question like that with 2 completely different ended systems.

So basically your getting away with having to pay for another 60 dollar game, only by paying 20. And you want to be able to xfer your char to PS4, and still have your char on PC? That's making a copy of your character, not xfering your character.

METALPUNKS

Reignskream wrote: »

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Reignskream wrote: »

Because the computer is not the console, and you bought the game for the computer.

Be happy they're even doing something like this, as i don't believe most would. Your lucky IMO that your not paying 60 dollars for a new game.

Ok so then the 20 dollars is for the upgrade. I'm not complaining will pay the money but you can't see where I'm coming from? I've already purchased the game. Here's the thing. I bought the pc game just so I can play on ps4 later. Once I start playing on pc I will never touch the pc version.

Would you be cool with someone charging you 20 dollars because you bought a new computer and wanted to transfer your characters to it?


Here's what would make this ok in my eyes. We pay for the transfer but can still play on pc as well if we wanted. So once you transfer does it lock out the pc version? If so why?

I don't see where your coming from, because if I want to play a game for the computer, I buy it for the computer. If i want to play a game on the console, I buy it on the console.

I never buy the same game for both systems. It's the same game, why waste money? By your logic you should be able to xfer for free because you paid for the game on PC already. That is your own fault I'm sorry to say, as you were too impatient and couldn't wait for the PS4 release.

Why would anybody charge me 20 dollars to xfer my chars over from one pc to another when all i would have to do is install the game and log on with my account, that logic makes no sense, and you can't ask a question like that with 2 completely different ended systems.

So basically your getting away with having to pay for another 60 dollar game, only by paying 20. And you want to be able to xfer your char to PS4, and still have your char on PC? That's making a copy of your character, not xfering your character.

Sorry I just don't see your logic here lol. Sure I cannot wait. I don't want to wait SIX months,I didn't wait. From my understanding once I pay 20 dollars to activate the ps4 version the pc version will no longer be active. That means I'm paying 20 extra dollars for a game I already paid for. If I could play on both systems then that would be awesome and I would be getting a major deal. That's what I want to know from ZOS.

It's the exact same thing if you bought a new computer. Do you need to pay 20 bucks to play this game on a new computer? NO. Sony or pc it is not relevant. It that I'm paying 20 dollars for a game I already paid for. You say I'm lucky I don't have to pay full price. I would not mind paying full price at all if and only if I get to keep both versions of the game but that's not the case. I'm paying 20 dollars to play the same exact game on a device, with the other device becoming deactivated.
So in the end I'm paying 80 dollars to play the exact same game.

Ser Lobo

It's different physical (and digital) media.

When you transfer your character (free of charge), you can opt to pay the full $60 and buy a PS4 copy of Elder Scrolls Online. Or you can pay $20. But you aren't magically turning your PC copy into a PS4 copy.

Your PC copy will still work. It'll still be installed, and you can still play it if you have the want or time.

The logic is sound. You aren't upgrading. You aren't transferring the game. You are keeping one product, and adding another product. And chances are, the products WILL be different on the most basic levels (consoles have no addons, limited in-game chat, probably supported voice chat, etc).

Instead of having to buy a new PS4 game for $60, Zenimax is cutting you a deal and giving you a $40 coupon (both the $60 and the $20 would come with 30 days).


The character transfer is a completely different service altogether.

Loco_Mofo

You said in your original post that the $20 gives you 30 more days. So what you're questioning is why you have to pay $5 to transfer your toons from the PC version to the console version.

You know what that measly $5 gets you? 6 months early access to the game. You can now transfer your max level, fully geared toons over to the console and tear a new one in all the noobies just starting out.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Millionaires

$$$$$

No but seriously, this should be a free transition, as long as you lose the ability to play that same account on PC.

FF: ARR did it for free.

SinisterJoint

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Think about it like this: Their PC player base is quitting fast... they did this to get the Console players to get the game now, not in 6 months when it will be clear that most players left....

Its mostly a cash grab... they know you won`t buy it in 6 months after its clear that you have more bots than players and that people are using hacks with no way for them to stop it. So they did this to get anyone who is going to buy the game to buy it now.

They need to wait 1 year for F2P but you can bet that its coming based on the population of my guild + the trading guilds i am in.

People no longer care, then even started using the hacks in PvP in the open to steal Scrolls... they know they will get reported and maybe banned but they also know they are quitting so why not?

Have enough Hyperbole this morning?

First, Its not a cash grab. The PC and Console playerbase are separate. Meaning that PC cant play with console players.

They are doing it because the console release pushback.

Lastly, I didn't know the playerbase was based around your guild and the trade guilds you are in.

Question for you though,
If you honestly despise the game so much, why the *** are you here? Nobody cares about your lopsided opinion. Run along now child, its past your bedtime.


OT -- You are getting the console game for 20 bucks. /thread

Aeradon

Simply put, you're buying the console copy of the game.

Take note that you're transferring your character progression. This is by no means an account transfer. If done right, you should end up with two accounts. One on the PC and one on the console.

You pay $60+$20 for your PC copy and account, then top up $20 you get a console copy and account. Fair deal considering if some of your friends feel that they only want to play on PC/console. If you're playing alone, just stick to one.

METALPUNKS

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

It's different physical (and digital) media.

When you transfer your character (free of charge), you can opt to pay the full $60 and buy a PS4 copy of Elder Scrolls Online. Or you can pay $20. But you aren't magically turning your PC copy into a PS4 copy.

Your PC copy will still work. It'll still be installed, and you can still play it if you have the want or time.

The logic is sound. You aren't upgrading. You aren't transferring the game. You are keeping one product, and adding another product. And chances are, the products WILL be different on the most basic levels (consoles have no addons, limited in-game chat, probably supported voice chat, etc).

Instead of having to buy a new PS4 game for $60, Zenimax is cutting you a deal and giving you a $40 coupon (both the $60 and the $20 would come with 30 days).


The character transfer is a completely different service altogether.

But that's the thing my pc copy won't work, at least that is what the support person told me when I called asking about this. If it worked I'd be getting a major deal and I'd feel like I was almost robbing ZOS.

Aeradon

METALPUNKS wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

It's different physical (and digital) media.

When you transfer your character (free of charge), you can opt to pay the full $60 and buy a PS4 copy of Elder Scrolls Online. Or you can pay $20. But you aren't magically turning your PC copy into a PS4 copy.

Your PC copy will still work. It'll still be installed, and you can still play it if you have the want or time.

The logic is sound. You aren't upgrading. You aren't transferring the game. You are keeping one product, and adding another product. And chances are, the products WILL be different on the most basic levels (consoles have no addons, limited in-game chat, probably supported voice chat, etc).

Instead of having to buy a new PS4 game for $60, Zenimax is cutting you a deal and giving you a $40 coupon (both the $60 and the $20 would come with 30 days).


The character transfer is a completely different service altogether.

But that's the thing my pc copy won't work, at least that is what the support person told me when I called asking about this. If it worked I'd be getting a major deal and I'd feel like I was almost robbing ZOS.

I suggest you request for a refund on your PC copy and purchase the PS4 copy.

Assuming your PC copy doesn't work, your account is empty right? You don't need the progression transfer, simply a refund and repurchase. Some sort of account transfer.

METALPUNKS

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

You said in your original post that the $20 gives you 30 more days. So what you're questioning is why you have to pay $5 to transfer your toons from the PC version to the console version.

You know what that measly $5 gets you? 6 months early access to the game. You can now transfer your max level, fully geared toons over to the console and tear a new one in all the noobies just starting out.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Seriously! Please people think about this. It's not about the 5 bucks. I don't give a damn if it was a penny, the minute I pay that 20 dollars my pc version no longer works. All I want to know is why I'm paying anything for a game that at that point I would of been playing for 6 months.

METALPUNKS

Aeradon wrote: »

METALPUNKS wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

It's different physical (and digital) media.

When you transfer your character (free of charge), you can opt to pay the full $60 and buy a PS4 copy of Elder Scrolls Online. Or you can pay $20. But you aren't magically turning your PC copy into a PS4 copy.

Your PC copy will still work. It'll still be installed, and you can still play it if you have the want or time.

The logic is sound. You aren't upgrading. You aren't transferring the game. You are keeping one product, and adding another product. And chances are, the products WILL be different on the most basic levels (consoles have no addons, limited in-game chat, probably supported voice chat, etc).

Instead of having to buy a new PS4 game for $60, Zenimax is cutting you a deal and giving you a $40 coupon (both the $60 and the $20 would come with 30 days).


The character transfer is a completely different service altogether.

But that's the thing my pc copy won't work, at least that is what the support person told me when I called asking about this. If it worked I'd be getting a major deal and I'd feel like I was almost robbing ZOS.

I suggest you request for a refund on your PC copy and purchase the PS4 copy.

Assuming your PC copy doesn't work, your account is empty right? You don't need the progression transfer, simply a refund and repurchase. Some sort of account transfer.

Huh? I do need the transfer. I already have a character with a few hundred hours into it.

RubyTigress

So you don't have to buy two separate copies of the game to play on two platforms.

Crumpy

Are you really that naive?

LIQUID741

I think its awesome that they will even allow us to transfer over to console if we would like too..actually was surprised that we could. $20 seems like a great deal to me..but then again, $20 is cheap for great entertainment that hopefully will get a lot of time out of.

A early movie now-a-days with popcorn/soda is $20...so this is a deal IMO...they could have just let your toon rot.

Aeradon

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

METALPUNKS wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

It's different physical (and digital) media.

When you transfer your character (free of charge), you can opt to pay the full $60 and buy a PS4 copy of Elder Scrolls Online. Or you can pay $20. But you aren't magically turning your PC copy into a PS4 copy.

Your PC copy will still work. It'll still be installed, and you can still play it if you have the want or time.

The logic is sound. You aren't upgrading. You aren't transferring the game. You are keeping one product, and adding another product. And chances are, the products WILL be different on the most basic levels (consoles have no addons, limited in-game chat, probably supported voice chat, etc).

Instead of having to buy a new PS4 game for $60, Zenimax is cutting you a deal and giving you a $40 coupon (both the $60 and the $20 would come with 30 days).


The character transfer is a completely different service altogether.

But that's the thing my pc copy won't work, at least that is what the support person told me when I called asking about this. If it worked I'd be getting a major deal and I'd feel like I was almost robbing ZOS.

I suggest you request for a refund on your PC copy and purchase the PS4 copy.

Assuming your PC copy doesn't work, your account is empty right? You don't need the progression transfer, simply a refund and repurchase. Some sort of account transfer.

Huh? I do need the transfer. I already have a character with a few hundred hours into it.

Lol, what's the reason of transitioning to PS4?

METALPUNKS

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Lol, what's the reason of transitioning to PS4?[/quote]

What do you mean? Ps4 is what I want to play with eso on , it's what I've planned on using for a year. It's just that it's delayed so I'm playing on my crap pc which is fun but nothing like playing on ps4 for me but I'm doing it anyway. All my friends will be on ps4 as well.

Anyway. I'm not Saying what ZOS is doing isn't nice it's just that I went through this same exact thing with ff14 and they did it for free. I give up at this point. If people are ok with someone just picking money out of their pockets, five hundred dollars or five pennies so be it. Just want to know why I'm paying anything that is all. I am a dedicated player, I purchased the imperial edition, the palomino horse, I'm subbing for 6 months when my month ends, blah blah blah I will buy anything they put in the store. The only reason I have a ps4 right now is because ESO, it collects dust until then. Again just want to know why in 6 months I have to pay to play the game that I already bought.

zhevon

Clearly allowing people to transfer caused more problems than its worth - its caused a lot entitlement issues; ZOS should have said no-transfer and you have to pay $60. No wonder we can't have nice this things.

Onto the OPs question - a significant hunk of change has to be paid to Sony and Microsoft for licensing. Thats probably not the whole $20, but when you take into account overhead and other expensives I bet they just break even on the transaction.

Aeradon

METALPUNKS wrote: »

What do you mean? Ps4 is what I want to play with eso on , it's what I've planned on using for a year. It's just that it's delayed so I'm playing on my crap pc which is fun but nothing like playing on ps4 for me but I'm doing it anyway. All my friends will be on ps4 as well.

Anyway. I'm not Saying what ZOS is doing isn't nice it's just that I went through this same exact thing with ff14 and they did it for free. I give up at this point. If people are ok with someone just picking money out of their pockets, five hundred dollars or five pennies so be it. Just want to know why I'm paying anything that is all. I am a dedicated player, I purchased the imperial edition, the palomino horse, I'm subbing for 6 months when my month ends, blah blah blah I will buy anything they put in the store. The only reason I have a ps4 right now is because ESO, it collects dust until then. Again just want to know why in 6 months I have to pay to play the game that I already bought.

Chill man. PS4 is awesome and all but gotta remember how tough was it for Skyrim. I'm not sure about FF14, but it's only logical to think that ZOS would provide free sub for PS4 upon launch, turns out it could be just payment of existing players for another month of sub? Who knows what other goodies they might slip in when you pay that $20, it's only wise that they do so, else they'll have angry player mobs. (The delay, the transfer charge, and most definitely the bugs won't justify itself. I foresee introduction of bots to consoles as well)

Have faith (:

p.s. I do buy a lot of things from the virtual stores and have little regard of the amount games charge me. It's only because $15-20 a month is sometimes less than a meal and ZOS deserves the support. Also, between treating my GF's mom to a dinner and not pretending to have fun in a game, ESO is definitely a better place for my money. So no, I don't appreciate a fat lady picking money out of my pocket on the condition of me having to fake a smile. And I do understand the importance of money.

Swampster

They're business out to make money... it's as simple as that

Rocksteady

They should put you in charge of transferring accounts and pay you nothing for it. We'll see how quickly you change your tune

nerevarine1138

I love it. They give you a character transfer (which you weren't going to get) and a $40 discount (which you also weren't going to get), and you've somehow found more reasons to complain.

This is the first time I've even heard of a company allowing a transfer between PC and console, much less practically giving the game away.

darthbelanb14_ESO

Look at it this way, before you would've had to pay $60 for the PC and $60 for the PS4 version and not transfer your characters. Now you're getting a $40 discount on the PS4 version and are able to transfer your characters.

An old saying involving a gift horse comes to mind.

Swampster

What would be REALLY nice.. while obviously not allowing play on the same platform, the stats/progress of a character could pass back and forth between plaforms. So you could pick up last night's play on the console the following day on a PC. You'd obviously require 2 subs, or a premium for the service on a monthly basis to make it worthwhile for ZOS.

I know.. never gonna happen, but it would be nice!

KrisButtar

I only bought the PC version because of the delay. I'm cool with transferring my character to the PS4 for $20 but I was under the impression that if I choose to stay subbed on PC I could and well as the PS4. Yes sub fees would be like $30 a month but I was OK with that. I had no idea the PC version would be deactivated and would have to pay another $60 to continue to play it on the PC. Now knowing that I wish I didn't buy the PC version and waited. Feels like they pulled a fast one on me