Scrivener's Hall, First Boss Fight Has Two Major Accessibility Flaws.

Bat · March 2023

The first boss has a mechanic that is difficult to deal with for people with poor eyesight. It is both the shooting symbols that show the direction of the hidden books, and the glow on the books themselves. The symbols fire off a bit too seldom for many to gather in which direction they are heading and when they do, they are pretty small and dimly lit, making it difficult for many to actually see them. Since this is imperative to know, the way they signal direction would stand being reworked so that they are clearer; for example they could keep shooting instead of going out for just a moment and then pausing, as well as their lights being brighter - alternatively the strands that they "leave behind" being somewhat thicker and brighter, or why not all three to make it less confusing and eye straining. The books themselves that preferably two DDs go to find, would also benefit from becoming a bit more clearly marked out. For example, they could have a pulsating light emitting from them, and a sound effect on them. This would help many groups clear this mechanic, without sacrificing the mechanic itself.

Necrotech_Master · March 2023

ive run this dungeon a couple times on normal, and there was no indication there were even books that needed to be found, the only one i knew was there was the green one you needed to absorb to prevent it exploding

the mechanics on this first boss i thought in general were very vague about what you were supposed to do, like i see the floating books in the main area you engage the boss but like had no idea what to do with them since they werent targetable

i dont even have that poor of eyesight, they were just not very obvious at all with all the other stuff going on during the fight

Soarora · March 2023

Personally, I didn’t find much issue in figuring out that the mechanic is to run into the bookshelves, and I saw the books well with bloom enabled. However, I completely agree that the indicator for what direction to go could be better. It feels wrong standing there with a heavy DoT staring at the sky for a couple seconds (+ doing the book’s mechanic) and then running. Despite knowing it gives a hint, I found myself just guessing and taking off.

ZOS_Kevin · March 2023

Thank you all for providing feedback here. We'll be sure to pass this on to the dungeon team.

AvalonRanger · March 2023

Each time I taught mech of this for the PUG member of normal dungeon run.
But usually people ignore my advice, and combat going solo tank fight. (everyone were dead except me)

Sigh...

The combat mech is not so bad, but something UI design of ZOS is still wrong.

AvalonRanger · March 2023

Just display the "warning message" on the screen, when boss summon the book.
Not great idea, but reasonable also.

Soarora · March 2023

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Each time I taught mech of this for the PUG member of normal dungeon run.
But usually people ignore my advice, and combat going solo tank fight. (everyone were dead except me)

Sigh...

The combat mech is not so bad, but something UI design of ZOS is still wrong.

Precisely why I’m not pugging it.

PrinceShroob · March 2023

We found the mechanics in this fight obtuse running in blind on veteran difficulty; there's little visual or audio indication that you even need to find books in the stacks, which is very unusual given that you are accompanied by two NPCs who staunchly remain completely silent during the entire fight (compare Jorvuld in Scalecaller Peak calling out mechanics as they happen).

The boss nattering on about needing to "do our research" before challenging him was a bit insulting; it almost felt like a naked admission that the game is horrible about teaching you how mechanics work in-game (the Help menu is seriously underutilized--it should, at the very least, allow you to read all the hints you'd normally get on your Death Recap screen).

Dragonredux · March 2023

Yeah this fight is a pain compared to the rest of the dungeon. I cannot for the life of me see the red books.

Doesn't help the constant DoT damage stacks up the more books pile up and mix with pugs trying to burn the boss / not knowing what to do. Pugging is going to be an absolute nightmare on a since 2, maybe 3 sets are somewhat good there one of them being a dps set. I already dreading this on my Tank whenever I hate random.