FIX FORWARD CAMPS

ishilb14_ESO · June 2014

Don't even give me the *** excuse that "oh we can only fix so much at once because we're bad" devs. This has been an issue since beta; this has always been an issue. FIX IT. This is a core mechanic of Alliance War and everyone feels like they're playing craps when they put one down. Leave mercs out for all I care, nerf BE to cost 1000 magicka and make talons only hit 1 person, I DON'T GIVE A F#%K, just fix the Forward Camps and stop giving in to your ADHD when your working.

Beretic · June 2014

This problem exists and its real, for all factions. I would hope that it will be addressed within the next patch.

1nugam1 · June 2014

Somebody need to calm down and get some fresh air.

Teargrants · June 2014

1nugam1 wrote: »

Somebody need to calm down and get some fresh air.

Do you even PvP?

ishilb14_ESO · June 2014

Why should I calm down? I'm invested in this game and it's disappointing when they don't fix basic but essential parts of the game such as this.

Gumbicus · June 2014

+100000 to this, we just got beat by 3 pact with a 20man premade because they got a camp off and ours got bugged.

Cody · June 2014

Forward camps are STILL bugged? they have been bugged since April!(I did not PvP in beta, so idk about beta) this is not good:( not good at all. I was planning to make a PvP build, and solely be someone who sets down forward camps for everyone, idk now.

ThyIronFist · June 2014

Yes they are bugged. Been like that since beta. In fact, it can happen to all siege equipment.

Yesterday I placed an oil pot down and it wouldn't let me interact with it...

Poor little oil pot...

Zubba · June 2014

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

Why should I calm down? I'm invested in this game and it's disappointing when they don't fix basic but essential parts of the game such as this.

Not to degrade anything. But how are you invested in this game? Are you a share holder?

1nugam1 · June 2014

Kirsika wrote: »

Do you even PvP?

You're a funny fellow, I'll give you that.

Limitless · June 2014

They could easily fix camps if they gave the players who put down the camps the option to burn them.

So if they're bugged, you can now just burn the camps.

It's a quick solution, not a permanent one.

SC0TY999 · June 2014

Couldn't have said it better myself! And while there at it, fix the weapon switching lag that's so unreliable right when you need it. Always gets me killed! This game is becoming an absolute joke. They keep taking our money and not fixing the things that are getting everyone angry and frustrated. There more interested in releasing crappy PvE stuff.

ishilb14_ESO · June 2014

Zubba wrote: »

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

Why should I calm down? I'm invested in this game and it's disappointing when they don't fix basic but essential parts of the game such as this.

Not to degrade anything. But how are you invested in this game? Are you a share holder?

Yes because owning a company's shares is the only way to be invested in a game right? Time and effort are worthless right? What if you had a Netflix subscription but 50% of the videos you had a subscription to didn't work or required many hours of streaming beforehand to watch, you would cancel your subscription wouldn't you? I started playing beta in November; it was an issue even then and plenty of people of people have bug reported it since. This is a common issue, and one that plagues people at all times in Cyrodiil.

@Limitless‌ had the excellent suggestion of allowing the player who put down the camp to be able to burn it. Simple and easy solution to this problem (or so one would think considering all the game mechanics needed for it are already present)

Maulkin · June 2014

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

@Limitless‌ had the excellent suggestion of allowing the player who put down the camp to be able to burn it. Simple and easy solution to this problem (or so one would think considering all the game mechanics needed for it are already present)

This wouldn't work.

The bug that affects the forward camp and all siege is that you can no longer interact with them. If it's a ballista you can't fire/use it and if it's a camp you can't see it on the map or spawn there.

To set it on fire you'd need to be able to interact with it. If you could interact with it there'd be no problem in the first place.

They just need to fix the damn bug that makes all these items un-interactable.

dcincali · June 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

@Limitless‌ had the excellent suggestion of allowing the player who put down the camp to be able to burn it. Simple and easy solution to this problem (or so one would think considering all the game mechanics needed for it are already present)

This wouldn't work.

The bug that affects the forward camp and all siege is that you can no longer interact with them. If it's a ballista you can't fire/use it and if it's a camp you can't see it on the map or spawn there.

To set it on fire you'd need to be able to interact with it. If you could interact with it there'd be no problem in the first place.

They just need to fix the damn bug that makes all these items un-interactable.

So if it's bugged, how can the enemy burn it?? o.O

Gisgo · June 2014

Limitless wrote: »

They could easily fix camps if they gave the players who put down the camps the option to burn them.

So if they're bugged, you can now just burn the camps.

It's a quick solution, not a permanent one.

Uh no im sure they would introduce new bugs by implementing this, by all means dont make them write new code.

Just fix what we already got.

Maulkin · June 2014

dcincali wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

@Limitless‌ had the excellent suggestion of allowing the player who put down the camp to be able to burn it. Simple and easy solution to this problem (or so one would think considering all the game mechanics needed for it are already present)

This wouldn't work.

The bug that affects the forward camp and all siege is that you can no longer interact with them. If it's a ballista you can't fire/use it and if it's a camp you can't see it on the map or spawn there.

To set it on fire you'd need to be able to interact with it. If you could interact with it there'd be no problem in the first place.

They just need to fix the damn bug that makes all these items un-interactable.

So if it's bugged, how can the enemy burn it?? o.O

Because it bugs out for allies and not for foes.

Point still stands, that there's no point adding a "burn" interaction for an object you can't interact with, if it's gonna bug out and you won't be able to burn it like fire it or pack it.

AnteCoyote · June 2014

Hey, Zenimax. Gimme the code. I GOT THIS.

ishilb14_ESO · June 2014

Since this game has started, I'm pretty sure I've laid out 30x more siege than forward camps, and the bug has only happened to my siege like twice, whereas for forward camps I have to worry about each one bugging out. Two of my friend's forward camps bugged out back to back. This bug is exceedingly more prevalent in forward camps than in siege. No, Zenimax doesn't know how to fix anything, so I'd rather they allow players to burn their own forward camps since the mechanism for players burning forward camps already exists

Tintinabula · June 2014

Tonight it was literally every single keep siege we had a bugged forward camp. Its beyond frustrating

Halrloprillalar · June 2014

By this point it's not a bug, it's a "feature". Inb4 new pvp passive: "increases the odds of forward camps actually working"

Dleatherus · June 2014

they are currently working on a fix for the bugged forward camps

i do wish that they'd communicate better regarding this ie put in a sticky thread that sits at the top of the Alliance War section of 'known bugs and exploits, and what we are doing about them' - wishful thinking

have also suggested that when deploying a forward camp that you have the option of clicking on an option for *group* *guild* *zone* in terms of who you allow to use it/see it on map

in order for that to work the footprint would need to be made considerably smaller since the griefing tactics that would result from this would be huge - enemy 'spy toons' setting up a forward camp that nobody else could use

that would lead to another set of exploiting where a whole bunch of smaller footprint camps could be set up and used as an insta teleportation system and the only way i have thought of to get around that is to have that you can only rez at a forward camp if killed by an enemy player, or an NPC guard INSIDE a keep - no more resource suicide fast travel to forward camps

D.