I recommend working on the NB for now. Maybe the upcoming 'fixes' will make Templars better, but maybe they won't. As it stand now, you'll get to 50 almost as easily as NB (but not as easily as a Sorc or DK), and then it'll REALLY slow down.

If want more details, then there are a plethora of threads explaining why the seemingly vast majority of players consider the Templar class to be.........lacking.

Thechemicals wrote: »

Protip- everyone puts all there points in health. Noone puts all there points in magicka or stamina, especially when levelling. Your endgame attributes should be 5/44/0 or 0/49/0.

When I start a game, I always put the first 5 points in to magicka because otherwise, you literally don't have enough magicka to cast more than two spells for each pull. Regen is so horrible you have to use wine and potions on every pull. Once I have that first 5 points, I then put them in to health and then try to stack magicka on gear. The problem is, it's hard to be picky unless you are making gear every 2 levels, which becomes time consuming and you have to farm a lot of mats.

Anyway, the AoEs barely put a dent in the other enemies. I see only the slightest mark indicating they were hit by anything.

VR10 breton templar all points in magicka :P.

Still no huge issues in PvE , for solo , bitting jabs + volcanic rune + immovable should do most of the trick for packs , i also use the vampire life drain and the ult sometimes when it gets harder , but that i only started on VR.

For solo 1x1 boss fights , IF THEY TAKE CC , then i just use the healing staff + eclipse + javelin + honor the dead , that will kill any boss that is either a mage or melee with 0 hits taken , if it is an archer then it will be harder , but you can still do it. Now , if they dont take CC ... then it is harder , usually i dont have the patience to change build much :P , so i just go with immovable + healing staff + honor the dead , i only use the staff for the damage and spend all the mana on the heal.

Yes , this is not a good build , yes , most can come up with something better , but i did get to the VR10 area this way soloing the quests. While i do need a group for the public group dungeons/anchors and some of the world bosses.

Im templar v9 and love it. great survivalbility, great utilities and decent damage. with the passives you can outheal anyone else per spell( others do have better resource managment). this game is not meant to have a character that does one thing. I healed all pre 50 dungeons with breath of life and purify. didnt even need staff; you need didicated healer post v1 so level a healing staff by then but you should focus on survivability.
I play sword board with all aoe bar and resto staff for swap 5 light for passives and 2 heavy for extra armor and passives. until you actually level the passives all you get is the armor so i started with 5 heavy and two light ( always training with light and as breton +15% light exp) they leveled at same rate and i switched to light after getting passives while having way more armor leveling up. my plan was and is dedicated healer for group content, but I build to be a powerfull warrior who can hold his own depending on slotted skills.
as someone else said, we tamplars have lots of AOE. sunfire morphs to hit three and snare. spear shards morphs to do aoe strike+ constant aoe damage(which is getting increased) and stun one. dark flare morphs to instant and aoe and increase power of next move. the spear gap closer morphs to explode aoe. with all these morphs your single target dps isnt great, but backlash+soulstrike on second bar fixes that. I have soloed most vr content. last night i did an anchor with one person healing me, nobody else there.
I love playing templar. also morph as much as you can pre vet. just cough up the money to respec what u dont like. always have one ability on yur bar that you havent morphed yet (except in dungeons spec specifically for that) that way when you get to the content that is actually hard in vet you wont need to have skills unmorphed on your bar. ps becoming a vampire give you a damage aoe that heals you ult... I hope this helps, just need to get over the hump of leveling skills.

^^^Disguises. lol I keep the seadrake disguise on my female characters and they look pretty hot. Not sure how the guys look in them.

Troponin wrote: »

I know the sustained damage of the caster templar is very good

You could not be more wrong. Templars sustained damage is the lowest in the game. Check the General forums. Some guy is giving away 50k to any templar that can hit 700 dps. So far no one has gotten above 425. Meanwhile Sorcs, DKs, and NBs are all at 1000+ dps.

So you have about half the DPS of the other classes. Sorcs and NBs are the best healers. DKs have utility, survivability, and DPS. Templars have...well nothing.

I would stop playing Templar for a couple months until Zen makes them viable. Unless of course you like being the most underpowered class in the game and enjoy struggling through every aspect of PvE

audabon2013 wrote: »

Agreed, no one should be making temps anymore. Zos just cleaned house and got rid of like 300 of us because our class is so bad even the devs don't want us around.

Seriously though, besides healing, which some may argue is behind sorc and nb , temp is lacking in both mag and stam based dps due to a huge discrepancy in class skills. Insult to injury is how many skills we have with cast times.

Those of us that mained temp must deal with the issue. Everyone else should avoid temp.

I now have a v3 sorc alt that does about the same dps as my v12 but with other better support, ults, buffs, and can heal just fine. One could argue sorc even looks better doin it.

Yup, I ditched my VR12 Templar and re-rolled a Sorc. I am enjoying the game again. Zen clearly does not want to put in the effort to fix templars. It is costing them a lot of subs assuming 25% of people rolled templars, not many of them have the patience to re-roll.

In PvP templars can be beasts. Superb survivability and massive burst damage. I haven't done trials with a templar but I sure as heck don't struggle with the PvE content either as a templar. Don't know what so many people are doing wrong, to be honest.

Lettigall wrote: »

As for AvA of course templars can do some damage in AvA but only with dress and sticks, rest builds are free AP for enemies.

Why would you gimp your alliance in War by dpsing on a Templar?

I although agree about the statement "rest builds are free AP for enemies", except for heal specced Templars.

I have a veteran rank 2 Templar, sword and shield, and a level 13 , light armour restoration staff alt, and I'd say the alt is easier.

Your direct dps is going to be poor, you will be reliant on your healing to survive long battles of attrition. The game is designed to make you run out of magika if you spam skills, that is to offset the lack of cooldowns, so don't do it. Instead use power efficient Damage over Time and power efficient Heal over Time spells and cast no more frequently than is necessary to keep these buffs running. Save your magika and instant cast heals for emergencies. Do damage with your free autoattacks and kite. And yes, most points in health. You are no good as a healer if you are dead.

Low level dungeon battles are either over very quickly or have lulls when you can restore power with heavy attack from your staff. If your healing fails, it is because you are grouped with idiots who can't move out of red circles. Most bosses have scripted, attack random person for 10 seconds moments and if you don't have some health you will die.

Later on you will have armour passives, regen and spell cost reduction jewellery.

Skills

1. Regeneration > Rapid Regen (Restoration staff class skill)

this is your bread and butter HOT

2. Rushed Ceremony (Restoring Light class skill)

your emergency heal, instant cast

3. Sun Fire > Reflective Light (Dawn's Wrath class skill)

power efficient damage over time spell, ranged. Also slows enemies, allowing you to kite. Also with the morph, hits two targets

4. Entropy / Degeneration (Mage's guild skill)

power efficient spell that combines a damage over time on the enemy with a heal over time on you. Can be applied to multiple targets, the healing effect on you stacks

5. Restoring Aura > Repentance (Restoring Light class skill)

On defeat of an enemy, restores stamina and health for you and your team. Costs nothing to cast.



Obviously you also want the Figher's Guild skill, Silver bolts when you are fighting daedra / undead.

Compared with my main, (sword and shield Templar) and my other alt (sword and shield, dark magic sorcerer) this character has had by far the fewest deaths. Only one in fact, when trying to two man a Dolmen.

Edit. Here is my healer at level 12 , taking on three level 14 Sea Viper Pirates.

Note that I don't have one the skills suggested above yet , Entropy. It's still a rather comfortable win, questing at this level you never have to take on more than two mobs at a time (clusters of three can always be avoided).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSF_bcz0WGc&feature=youtu.be