The part missing from the patch notes is "the second cast has 50% cost and no mana cost reduction skills applied."

Since the base cost at your level is 350, 350 + 50% = 425

The second casting cost can not be reduced.

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Understood but that makes it far greater than a 50% increase nerf and I seriously doubt they took that into consideration. They need to change that. When have they ever nerfed anyone 78% on any skill?

Biting Jab, casting time from 0.5 second to 1.2 second (240% increase)
Restoring Spirit, restoring 4% of maximum magicka on cast, changed to a 4% reduction to all ability costs (95% nerf to its power)

I will update soon with the NB and DK nerf that were over 80% change to the class skill power, its going to be a long list

I have a V12 sorc, V12 DK and a V12 Templar. Templar is my main, the others I just power leveled in a few days. Had them around L40 before Craglorn came out, but it only took a day to get from V1 to V12 on them as Craglorn is so broken.

In my view,
The Sorc 'feels' about right, and should not be changed anymore.
The DK is a little over power in some areas but will be hard to balance without killing some of its 'fun'.

The Templar has no dps, but fixing their resource management would fix most of that.

Played a NB until L31, if their skills DID what they say they do, I think they would be fine but most of their skills just don't do what you expect them too.

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Why in the world has ESO applied the BE change in game now ahead of all the other class changes announced to come in patch 1.2? So all we get is the nerf and none of the beneficial changes? Why not apply everyone's changes all at once? Not only that it is bugged. My first cast is 239 and the 2nd is costing me 425. That is more than the 50% increase stated in the tip. Instead it is applying a 78% increase. The 2nd cast should have only been 359. They overnerfed it.

I would like to see patch notes for 6/9 showing what has actually been changed.

Points you there. This will make u even more mad.


http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/109421/bolt-escape-nerf-is-broken?new=1

Natjur wrote: »

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Understood but that makes it far greater than a 50% increase nerf and I seriously doubt they took that into consideration. They need to change that. When have they ever nerfed anyone 78% on any skill?

Biting Jab, casting time from 0.5 second to 1.2 second (240% increase)
Restoring Spirit, restoring 4% of maximum magicka on cast, changed to a 4% reduction to all ability costs (95% nerf to its power)

I will update soon with the NB and DK nerf that were over 80% change to the class skill power, its going to be a long list

The templar cast time they already said weeks ago they were changing that back and a cast time is much different than a mana cost.

The restoring spirit change you can't call that a 95% change in power when they totally changed what it does. Plus 4% max majicka compared to 4% cost reduction is totally build dependent. They do two totally different things. It is comparing apples to oranges and is a skill redesign.

Do you people realize bolt escape is meant to be an "Oh, sh!t"-button and not a means of travel?

Rodario wrote: »

Do you people realize bolt escape is meant to be an "Oh, sh!t"-button and not a means of travel?

So? then make nerf only applies when 100m radius has no enemy. Your medicine doesn't fit your syndrome.

Hmmm, something about mountains, mole hills, and conclusion jumping come to mind. Oh well, nevermind.

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I love how sorcs, who have been crying and still are crying for the massive dk nerfs, are now acting like they are the only ones nerfed.

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I love how sorcs, who have been crying and still are crying for the massive dk nerfs, are now acting like they are the only ones nerfed.

I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Dear Devs,
Please nerf Rock, Paper is fine.
Regards,
Scissors

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Why in the world has ESO applied the BE change in game now ahead of all the other class changes announced to come in patch 1.2?

Because it was grossly OP and unrelated to the other changes you're alluding to.

LOL getting away is OP? Wow
Whimper.....but i should be able to kill everyone lol

crislevin wrote: »

egosumacunnus wrote: »

Sorcs are OP.

This is a small nerf that will make it harder for little girls run from a fight they made an ass of. Boohoo.

next time your class skill got a 100% cost increase, you bet i will dance on that grave. :disagree:

To be honest i think NB cloak skill should have it's cost increased. I only ever want an even fight of skill.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Why in the world has ESO applied the BE change in game now ahead of all the other class changes announced to come in patch 1.2?

Because it was grossly OP and unrelated to the other changes you're alluding to.

One other thing, It 100% is related to the other skill changes. In fact if anything this one change should have been delayed due to the 1.2 change to CC immunity. The real problem with BE wasn't people getting away though some that think they should be able to kill everything in sight complained. The real problem was the stun+damage morph of BE that people wanted to see cast less frequently as it was being used as a weapon instead of escape. The CC change could make the point moot and unneeded. ZOS dropped the ball on this. It should have been delayed not advanced. If the cc change was not enough then change the one morph not the whole skill line. The one change in 1.2 they should have advanced was the CC immunity which they did not, again dropping the ball. Then they could have seen that changes effects ahead of time to decide IF the BE change was needed.

Natjur wrote: »

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Understood but that makes it far greater than a 50% increase nerf and I seriously doubt they took that into consideration. They need to change that. When have they ever nerfed anyone 78% on any skill?

Biting Jab, casting time from 0.5 second to 1.2 second (240% increase)
Restoring Spirit, restoring 4% of maximum magicka on cast, changed to a 4% reduction to all ability costs (95% nerf to its power)

I will update soon with the NB and DK nerf that were over 80% change to the class skill power, its going to be a long list

So, Zenimax can't do anything good enough

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Do you people realize bolt escape is meant to be an "Oh, sh!t"-button and not a means of travel?

You obviously didn't read what people have been saying. Every comment has been about combat.

Ok, then it's not meant to stay out of melee range forever and a day. Think of "blink" in wow's glory days, that had a good cd on it.

Hodorius wrote: »

BE = 15 m
Any ranged ability ( exept Snipe ) < 30m ( usually 28m)

If you cast BE twice you are out of range...

What is the problem?
Honestly... I do not understand why this nerf is so bad?

Snipe has a range of 50 and with the many modifications in game can go over 60. So you need at least 5 to get out of range if they have moved even a little towards you and that expends a full power bar. So if you have fought at all expending power you are dead period. They will catch you defeating the purpose of Bolt ESCAPE. I didn't see one sorc escape all night. We killed every one of them. This was their only defense.