Mobs In Veteran Zones Are Way To Over Powered!!!

Blade_07 · June 2014

2 mob & sometimes I get killed on my NB but 3 mobs = 100% death! If anything the mobs by themselves need need to be made harder to kill and the mobs that are in a group need to be nerfed. Kinda getting sick & tired of getting killed so easy by 3 mobs! Ran into 3 mobs that was holding a hostage for sneak attack on a traveler such as myself and I could not even kill one of them on my NB before they had me dead! And I made 3 attempts to kill them too. Oh and they aggro me from long ways off after I raised up! That also was aggravating. Just got killed again in a 3 mob group. Managed to kill 1 of them before they killed me. Quick strike was doing 307 dmg, throw dagger which dose way to much dmg did 880...OMG, and then heavy strike for the kill shot with a whopping 882 dmg!!! Holy cow Batman....you just got ***!
Seriously though, this NEEDS to be fixed ASAP. I'm rank 5 and would like to make it to rank 11 but at this rate its gunna be pretty hard with this unbalance! Getting constantly owned is frustrating to say the least! Fix this please!
Vomit from a zombie just did 865 dmg! >.<

Khivas_Carrick · June 2014

I have to agree. There's too much of an emphasis on both magic users and grouping in this game, and that cannot happen ever due to how people are (they tend to want to solo or go where the money is, thus entire zones are left empty for everyone else, which is bad if the game is too group oriented) and of course, magic is OP as hell in this game for no apparent reason at all.

Blade_07 · June 2014

Well, actually and very sadly this game dose not encourage grouping or make it a must to kill things. Seriously, who is gunna team up to just kill some mobs. Just aint enough incentive to party up. Zenimax needs to desperately make grouping up very beneficial and attractive cuz as is it just aint that way. $:\$

Dayv · June 2014

OP, you'll find no arguments about this from me. It's way too hard for a mass market game particularly if they're planning a console release. Still, I've heard nothing from ZOS on the issue.

flintstone · June 2014

Ya, I stopped playing my VR8 and started a new player.....but, now he is at level 48.... so the fun is about to stop again (bummer!).

VR levels are nothing but an empty world full of grind.....and almost no reward.

Ragefist · June 2014

Im just going to quote one of my older post here

Ragefist wrote: »

VR content is hard indeed, however it is much easier than we were promised

I remember ZOS folk stating VR1-5 will be hard and VR6-10 for 2 people.

Its not. Its soloable with no problem (yes I die on regular basis, its perfectly normal in VR8+ content. The lag is often a cause, but diff. as well). I still use same 2 weapons I used whole time, 2h and Bow. I intended to use them for lvling only but I felt in love with the playstyle. Its not exactly cookie-cutter build. I havent seen anyone else using this combo

Yes I had to adapt my playstyle to use it efficently, yes I changed some morphs, use different skills for different scenarions ... but jesus thats the point of the game design. If you expected to use same skills with no spinoff entire game, you should be playing GW2 anyway

Yes it feels different from other mmos, you cant watch TV while grinding, but give it a bit of effort and you may actually grow to like the challenge

Blade_07 · June 2014

Yeah, and for some reason it seems that items drop rate has been nerfed as well in vet. zones. Dont know if its just me but it felt that way after I killed several mobs for about an hour. Most of the mobs only gave a small about of gold and that was it.

Slash8915 · June 2014

L2P, I can solo 12 mobs without losing 1/18th of my health. I also killed Molag Bal in 22.6 seconds.

/Sarcasm

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Blade_07 · June 2014

Slash8915 wrote: »

L2P, I can solo 12 mobs without losing 1/18th of my health. I also killed Molag Bal in 22.6 seconds.

/Sarcasm

So, you want a brownie button or a chest to put it on tough guy? And you didnt mention what class your playing and also didnt say what type or armor your using. I'm a NB with medium armor!

Blade_07 · June 2014

Just got hit with a 1114 dmg Impending Storm. Complete BS!

Cimos · June 2014

Did you read the inprogress update? "Veteran Rank Monsters (not Craglorn) - On Friday, we pushed a hotfix to correct Veteran Rank monster values. Testing has confirmed the hotfix did work, though there may be some monsters who have not respawned since the hotfix who still have old, higher values. If you encounter a monster that has been killed and respawned and you believe it still has the older, higher values, please let us know which one and where it is, and we'll take a look."

gurluasb16_ESO · June 2014

The mobs are still OP, and it's in general most mobs.
A group of 3 = certain death.

I've canceled my subscription because I am no longer enjoying the game. I can't quest anymore and questing is what I enjoy. When you fix the game I'll gladly resubscribe.

I don't like questing in groups. It's not fun. It's tedious, especially because people tend to skip dialogs. Furthermore, I want to play with MY build, and my customized layout. I want to play the game my way, as it's been advertised.

The next major patch is showing no sign of fixing this, hence why I'm out. I won't waste my money dying all the time and training cooking.

Bhakura · June 2014

Sheesh another to hard complain thread ...
lets get over this shall we

throw dagger which dose way to much dmg did 880.

This is probably the easiest attack in entire game to avoid, not only do mobs run back a bit, the charge time is long and the travel distance to target is slow buying even more time to take out another target while that blade slinger is busy running back and forth. You can block this just a millisecond before it hits. All you have to do is WATCH FOR IT. But no, you choose to get hit by it.

and then heavy strike for the kill shot with a whopping 882 dmg

Same deal, refuse to block and allow it to hit you ...

Vomit from a zombie just did 865 dmg!

Are you for real? ITS A SMALL CONE ATTACK THAT TAKES AGES TO HIT .... and you get hit by it and then complain game is to hard ????

What exactly do you expect if you let every single damaging attack to hit you for its full amount??
Once more people will troll me getting used to it by now, but every single AND I DO MEAN EVERY SINGLE complain thread about being to hard is the OP posting examples of crappy combat play. Omg i got one shotted by an aoe, the game is to hard. Omg i got killed by a bunch of powerattacks and special attackskills, the game is to hard.
The game isnt to hard, the play is inadequate, thats not the games fault, thats the players fault, but for some reason first thing that comes to players minds is that its the game is bad.
/shrug

SharranAes · June 2014

Fully agree with Bahkura

To all of you who complain about being killed by VR mobs, here is the simple reason;
You do not MOVE
You stand there like a *** (Am I allowed to say ***? I mean exceptional individual), and take that two-handed maul directly in your face, then let him casually step backwards and throw a dagger at your exposed kidney

This is not WoW;
You have no passive dodge/block that just pops over your head in letters - You actually HAVE TO DODGE/BLOCK

So fed up with all you whiners bitching about how "hard" the game is, when you seem incapable of a single coherent thought
You see the freakin' death cap; What killed you?
Is it possible to avoid that effect? Yes, yes it is

Learn to use the tools given to you, and don't cry for a difficulty setting a five year old exceptional individual could beat, please

FINALLY, a game challenges players, but no, you want it to be another game made for people who just came out of brain surgery and had half their brain removed
Enough already -.-

Blade_07 · June 2014

Bhakura wrote: »

Sheesh another to hard complain thread ...
lets get over this shall we

throw dagger which dose way to much dmg did 880.

This is probably the easiest attack in entire game to avoid, not only do mobs run back a bit, the charge time is long and the travel distance to target is slow buying even more time to take out another target while that blade slinger is busy running back and forth. You can block this just a millisecond before it hits. All you have to do is WATCH FOR IT. But no, you choose to get hit by it.

and then heavy strike for the kill shot with a whopping 882 dmg

Same deal, refuse to block and allow it to hit you ...

Vomit from a zombie just did 865 dmg!

Are you for real? ITS A SMALL CONE ATTACK THAT TAKES AGES TO HIT .... and you get hit by it and then complain game is to hard ????

What exactly do you expect if you let every single damaging attack to hit you for its full amount??
Once more people will troll me getting used to it by now, but every single AND I DO MEAN EVERY SINGLE complain thread about being to hard is the OP posting examples of crappy combat play. Omg i got one shotted by an aoe, the game is to hard. Omg i got killed by a bunch of powerattacks and special attackskills, the game is to hard.
The game isnt to hard, the play is inadequate, thats not the games fault, thats the players fault, but for some reason first thing that comes to players minds is that its the game is bad.
/shrug

#1 I dislike your snobby little attitude & #2 I realize I can block & I do but these are hits that I take when I'm fighting multiple mobs and I get stuck in a move and or I'm trying like hell to stay alive and pounding my potion button that dont work cuz of a lack of response from my impute. *** happens and I get caught by these moves when I'm fighting 2 or more mobs. If your a stud muffin and never die then great I'm so very happy for you but not all players are perfect like your self! >.<

Blade_07 · June 2014

zakeehamacab16_ESO wrote: »

Fully agree with Bahkura

To all of you who complain about being killed by VR mobs, here is the simple reason;
You do not MOVE
You stand there like a *** (Am I allowed to say ***? I mean exceptional individual), and take that two-handed maul directly in your face, then let him casually step backwards and throw a dagger at your exposed kidney

This is not WoW;
You have no passive dodge/block that just pops over your head in letters - You actually HAVE TO DODGE/BLOCK

So fed up with all you whiners bitching about how "hard" the game is, when you seem incapable of a single coherent thought
You see the freakin' death cap; What killed you?
Is it possible to avoid that effect? Yes, yes it is

Learn to use the tools given to you, and don't cry for a difficulty setting a five year old exceptional individual could beat, please

FINALLY, a game challenges players, but no, you want it to be another game made for people who just came out of brain surgery and had half their brain removed
Enough already -.-

Great....another smart a$$ shooting off his/her crappy little mouth! You happy now? Did I get your panties in a knot?

Bhakura · June 2014

oh i die, i die alot even, way more then i want too, but every death i know why. its me fooling around and only deserve to die. Am i crying its to hard? No, its right where it should be and combat in a game has never been so much fun.
Heck i even go out of the way to pick a fight, thats just how fun this game is in combat.
If you cant stand critic on your playstyle dont post complain threads for the wrong reasons. Complain about bots, broken skills and what not. Because thats something worth complaining about, game being to hard is you not playing as you should and is not the games fault. Its like a mortal sin when you mention this on forums, i know, noone likes to be told theyre doing it wrong especially in games because everyone thinks to be the badest badass gamer evaah. But instead of starting to mouth off, you might wanna READ and change your playstyle.
if i can do it and several other people, surely something must be off, dont you think?

Blade_07 · June 2014

Well, I tend to get a little pi$$y when I get 1 shotted or 2 shotted way to often. Glad you dont mind death a lot but I do mind it when its way to much. 3 mobs almost always = death. I feel they still need to be nerfed a little. Not a lot but just a little more. Would be great if they could reduce the mobs dmg output when they are in a group of 3 and increase the dmg of a single mob. Single mob is very easy and I never die to a single mob but 2 or more and its almost always death. 2 I kill most of the time but 3 is almost always death no matter what I do. Yall may think thats cool and thats your opinion. You got a right to speak your mind but so do I. I made this thread so I could speak my mind and give my opinion and I didnt do it in a snobby disrespectful way to anybody at all. So, its fine to speak your mind and give your opinion but do it in a respectful & helpful way. Cuz putting somebody down like that is just slinging mud and he who slings mud loses ground.

Bhakura · June 2014

Perhaps yes, but im tired of constantly seeing this "to hard" threads come up to bash on the game and then people giving examples of why its to hard. And all i see in examples given are player errors.
Not a fanatic fan boy, because i play way less then i used to, the only good thing in this game is the combat mechanism and it get bashed the most, which is ridiculous and is simply not fair.
And i have the bad attitude of going berserk on things that arent fair. :P

Slash8915 · June 2014

Blade_07 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

L2P, I can solo 12 mobs without losing 1/18th of my health. I also killed Molag Bal in 22.6 seconds.

/Sarcasm

So, you want a brownie button or a chest to put it on tough guy? And you didnt mention what class your playing and also didnt say what type or armor your using. I'm a NB with medium armor!

Obviously you didn't read where I typed "/SARCASM"

But yes, I agree in some instances. My character is VR12 with full purple VR12 gear. If I go to a VR6+ area and fight a group of 3 mobs, I sometimes have a little trouble if one of them is a healer. NPC healers heal WAY too fast, IMO. As a Temp tank, this makes soloing them very difficult.

Blade_07 · June 2014

Slash8915 wrote: »

Blade_07 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

L2P, I can solo 12 mobs without losing 1/18th of my health. I also killed Molag Bal in 22.6 seconds.

/Sarcasm

So, you want a brownie button or a chest to put it on tough guy? And you didnt mention what class your playing and also didnt say what type or armor your using. I'm a NB with medium armor!

Obviously you didn't read where I typed "/SARCASM"

But yes, I agree in some instances. My character is VR12 with full purple VR12 gear. If I go to a VR6+ area and fight a group of 3 mobs, I sometimes have a little trouble if one of them is a healer. NPC healers heal WAY too fast, IMO. As a Temp tank, this makes soloing them very difficult.

Well, a templar has a lot more survivability than a nightblade! Roll a NB through to VR content then and you MIGHT get an understanding of what I'm saying but indeed I agree with you on the healing NPC's. Especially when there are 3 NPC enemy and 2 of them cure. Its crazy insane, they just cure each other back and forth and they also will both cure the melee at the same time too. No way you gunna kill the melee npc with 2 npc curing him!