tengri wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

I like the stability.

The mobs of a entire zone is the same across it, no worrys about running into a mob that is vastly above your level if you take a wrong turn. No worrys that a quest might be too high or too low generally.

This. So much this.

But pretty much only this, too...

I agree.

Shunravi wrote: »

I like the veteran content because it feels far more like Elder Scrolls then 1-50 did. Sure it is more of a challenge, but I can go anywhere and have the mobs feel more consistent. I can run across the map to pick up a quest there, and not have to worry if it is close to my level. Much more Elder Scrollsy.

I really think most of the objections are coming from people who want to see a constant numerical representation of their progression in the game. It's not like you gain skills more slowly at VR or that you don't get access to fun content. You just don't get a swirly, shiny special effect every few hours to remind you how awesome you are.

GeeYouWhy wrote: »

tengri wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

I like the stability.

The mobs of a entire zone is the same across it, no worrys about running into a mob that is vastly above your level if you take a wrong turn. No worrys that a quest might be too high or too low generally.

This. So much this.

But pretty much only this, too...

I agree.

Me too

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

I like the veteran content because it feels far more like Elder Scrolls then 1-50 did. Sure it is more of a challenge, but I can go anywhere and have the mobs feel more consistent. I can run across the map to pick up a quest there, and not have to worry if it is close to my level. Much more Elder Scrollsy.

I really think most of the objections are coming from people who want to see a constant numerical representation of their progression in the game. It's not like you gain skills more slowly at VR or that you don't get access to fun content. You just don't get a swirly, shiny special effect every few hours to remind you how awesome you are.

That's certainly not everyone. If I was to describe it as a grind, I wouldn't be referring to the number of quests, but just how tedious fighting through OP trash mobs is and the fact that reaching this level doesn't feel like it has opened up more possibilities for how you build your character but actually feels like it has reduced it.

tengri wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

I like the stability.

The mobs of a entire zone is the same across it, no worrys about running into a mob that is vastly above your level if you take a wrong turn. No worrys that a quest might be too high or too low generally.

This. So much this.

But pretty much only this, too...

never ran into this going from 1-50 either, where heck are people running off too that they met such higher level mobs they couldn't kill them?

Veteran content itself isnt the problem.

Its the brick wall that 80% of builds in the game run into while attempting to do run vet content.

It makes for a very frustrated player when the build and abilities armor type and weapons you used most of the game become wholly ineffective.

If you were lucky enough to pick the right build through most of the game and continue on to VR content its not as bad, but I would wager most of the players who enjoyed swinging around their two-handed swords or using sub-par abilities like say Entropy get extremely irritated and simply give up claiming the content is unplayable.

I totally agree with OP. And while I never had a problem in the 1-50 of running into more powerful mobs, I was usually overpowered compared to them as spending some time looting chests at low levels ends up spiking you a few levels ahead later on.

All the reasons OP stated though have made me love vet content so far. If I was playing one of the older mmo's where I ddin't really care about the story really, you just next next next'd to get the quest, then it would feel very grindy with minimal reward to me, but in TESO the voice acting and the quality they did the questing really strikes home a proper RPG and thats the enjoyment I get. Now with the way vet levels are currently staged the rewards are def not at the same level they were early on, but this is how I remember MMO's being years ago anyway, where it took a long long time to get to max level and you spent many many months just to finish most of the normal game fair with some end game stuff.

So I personally love it. Yes it does need some work and yes it does need some changes but not a lot. The 1-50 game was sooooo easy I could have been asleep and beat it. I think I died about 15 times total in the entire 1-50, 10 of which was at molag bal in the last week dealing with that stupid bug they just fixed, so those dont really count as challenge deaths. I'm looking forward to actually getting a little frustrated with some fights and dying to some trash mobs so I have to think and try harder, as the reward is greater to me.

The veteran content would have been a GOOD idea, IF and only IF; it was just an OPTION. Yes you can say it is that now already, but the problem is Zenimax nerf any good options the players find (Craglorn farm is getting nerfed next week).

The veteran content is super for hardcore PvEers, but it is a long hard grind for PvPers. A grind that kills the fun of the game.

I have a real life friend I play with in TS, and I am seriously concerned about his health, due to how much he rages from playing the the veteran content. The difficulty scales up way too quit, and almost only the light armor+staff boring cookie cutter builds work. For the rest that wants to play how the class should have been played, is hitting a brick wall and get angry (and some /cancel and moves on to the next game).