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Harvest Map?

Blade_07
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Are we permitted to use Harvest Map or dose Zenimax consider it a bannable offence?
“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • onlinegamer1
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    You have no idea what an AddOn is, do you?
  • onlinegamer1
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    You have no idea what an AddOn is, do you?

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

    Actually, it does. The fact that its an addon DOES mean that its ok to use.

    Like I said, you obviously have no idea what an AddOn is.
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on 3 June 2014 19:23
  • jdoe
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    Damn, both of you guys (and half this forum) need to learn some civility.

    Ahywhoo, yes Blade, you can safely use HarvestMap. AddOns use an interface (called an API) which Zenimax built just for that purpose, for them to use. So, OnlineGamer is largely right, if it's an AddOn, it means that it's using tools Zenimax themselves designed; thus it should be OK. If there were an AddOn that was somehow an exploit, Zenimax would just update the API not to support that function. Zenimax won't support AddOns (because, it's other people's code), but they support the use of AddOns.
  • zgrssd
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    To give a proper, non insulting answer:
    Everything an addon can do has been made possible by Zenimax. They invested work to make it possible.
    If they think any part of the Addon API would be a problem, it would cost them a 1 minute to turn it off.

    The general rule seems to be:
    If it exists as guide in the internet, you can have addon taht gives you the data ingame.
    The other stuff (interacting with game world and other players) is heavily regulated, so they cannot do anything like botting.
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  • Fyrakin
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    As long as its in-game mechanic you aer safe to use. It is safe to say that any add-on you can make using ESO UI API will be perfectly legit to use.
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  • Amsel_McKay
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    I use minion for all my addons because minion was the suggested system by Zeni and they posted a link on facebook as the tool to use.
  • Kreager
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    You have no idea what an AddOn is, do you?

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

    Just wow >:)

    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on 3 June 2014 19:27
  • Blade_07
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    jdoe wrote: »
    Damn, both of you guys (and half this forum) need to learn some civility.

    Ahywhoo, yes Blade, you can safely use HarvestMap. AddOns use an interface (called an API) which Zenimax built just for that purpose, for them to use. So, OnlineGamer is largely right, if it's an AddOn, it means that it's using tools Zenimax themselves designed; thus it should be OK. If there were an AddOn that was somehow an exploit, Zenimax would just update the API not to support that function. Zenimax won't support AddOns (because, it's other people's code), but they support the use of AddOns.

    kk, ty for the nice explanation. Just wanted to make sure it was ok to use thus the reason for my post. ^^
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Blade_07
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    OK, been trying to use Harvest Map and its not working. :/
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Blade_07
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    Dose anybody use Harvest Map & if so then is it working? Its not working for me for some reason.
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • LadyHen
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    When you log on, make sure all your AddOn is checked. It only shows items that you already found.
  • Blade_07
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    LadyHen wrote: »
    When you log on, make sure all your AddOn is checked. It only shows items that you already found.

    Oh, that could be why I dont see anything then cuz I have not harvested anything since I have had it installed. :\ That kinda sucks. Was hoping it would show you everything as soon as you installed it. Boohooo. :'(

    Edited by Blade_07 on 4 June 2014 13:56
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Blade_07
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    kk, I have harvested several things and they are not showing up on map. Do I need to log off then back on to see them?
    EDIT: Nope, logging off then back on didnt help. >.<
    Edited by Blade_07 on 4 June 2014 14:58
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    Mine works just fine
  • JessieColt
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Are we permitted to use Harvest Map or dose Zenimax consider it a bannable offence?

    Yep, they are allowed, and even encouraged, by ZeniMax.

    Check out the Add On / UI Mod Forum that ZeniMax has provided for just such content.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/add-ons-ui-mods
  • LadyHen
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    With the Harvest Map, go to Add-On settings. Make sure everything is checked on. Also make sure it says show on compass. It also allows you to change the colors for each item: plants, chest, wood, fishing, extra.
  • GeeYouWhy
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    Are we permitted to use Harvest Map or dose Zenimax consider it a bannable offence?


    Yes it's okay.
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  • Blade_07
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    LadyHen wrote: »
    With the Harvest Map, go to Add-On settings. Make sure everything is checked on. Also make sure it says show on compass. It also allows you to change the colors for each item: plants, chest, wood, fishing, extra.

    Got Minion to help manage the addons. Hope that helps! :/

    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Blade_07
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    LadyHen wrote: »
    With the Harvest Map, go to Add-On settings. Make sure everything is checked on. Also make sure it says show on compass. It also allows you to change the colors for each item: plants, chest, wood, fishing, extra.

    Got Minion to help manage the addons. Hope that helps! :/

    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    They should ban harvest map, as the bots use it for farming
  • Blade_07
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    OK, got it all up and running. Not sure what I was doing wrong but its all good. Seriously LOVE the addon that shows buffs/debuffs!!! Pure awesomeness!!! Can see exactly what buffs I have and see what amount of time there is left on them and all with just quick glance. No need to stop what I'm doing and hit the C key to see only buffs. Also can see what buffs other players have on them. SWEET!
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

  • Talmet
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    They should ban harvest map, as the bots use it for farming

    ....banning harvestmap to stop bots would be pointless.

    All the location data for nodes is already known, which is all the bots use harvestmap for anyway. So, it'd probably take them less than an hour to just put the location data into the bot program itself & then the bots would work just like they do now, but without harvestmap.

    If ZOS removed the ability for harvestmap to work & then also changed the location of every node in the game so that the location data was wrong...it still wouldn't take very long for people to find the new nodes, their locations would be mapped out on sites like esohead in less than a day (even if there wasn't a way to find your map coordinates in game, people would save their location data with screenshots or whatever & the location of most/all nodes would be on esohead very quickly) & that data would be ported into bot programs really really fast.

    I know this may shock some people...but bot programs are pretty sophisticated. If they can move in a pre-set path, detect a mob, move to the mob, use abilities to kill the mob, loot the mob, then continue on a pre-set path (which they obviously can). Then they can also just as easily move in a pre-set path, detect node, move to node, loot node, continue on a pre-set path. There isn't a harvestmap addon that shows the location of mobs...and yet there are many botters running around high lvl zones killing & looting mobs. Removing harvestmap would just make node farming bots work on the same system that mob farming bots work on....meaning they'd still work just fine & bots would still exist.
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