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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Was Caltrops fixed?

Igolbug
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Is what I asked when I logged on today.

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I found out pretty quickly.
Igolbug
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  • Mange
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    Caltrops? Who cares about PVP, but lets hotfix people getting VR levels to fast in Craglorn as soon as possible.
  • Rackiera
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    I care about PVP not PVE, ZOS stated caltrops will be fixed shortly after 1.1.2, its needing to be fixed now. My whole guild won't pvp until its sorted, its a waste of time, all tactics are useless with this bug.

    When is it being patched ?
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    It does show just how many people are willing to cheat if they can and how much. Pretty disheartening really that so few people have any kind of concept of gamesmanship. Yes the bug needs to be fixed but with the state of lag what's the point anyway?
  • Avidus
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    Unfortunately there are too many people willing to exploit instead of just playing.
    My guild works very hard to PvP and to be exceptional at it.

    Over the last couple of days we have been fighting 3 guilds all who have more members that we do.
    Now 1 of these guilds. I cannot remember their name, messaged us and said "We will not use Caltrops or mercenaries if you do not"
    Of course we happily agreed to this. And we had some absolutely amazing PvP.
    After about 20 minutes of 4 of us defending a keep against roughly 20 on the interior of the keep this guild then used siege weapons to attack our flag guarding NPCs. Which stops them from attacking. Which meant 4 vs 20 with bugged out NPCs. we got stomped really quickly.
    Wonderful!

    The other 2 guilds went full haxor and were using caltrops and merc spamming while defending one of their keeps.
    It meant that whilst we were not dying, it was impossible for us to capture the keep until their mercenaries disappeared.

    Its a really sad to think that players would rather cheat to win that to win through fair gameplay.
    What do you get if you win when you cheat? Would you be proud if you captured every keep if your players could teleport across the map and insta-kill everything?
    How is this different.
  • ishilb14_ESO
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    What's there to fix? Zenimax changed caltrops a few patches ago to give immunity to siege damage. They did this because Cyrodiil is not a PvP area, it's a PvE area, so when you want to defend a keep, you're supposed to spawn 20 Mercenary Mages to defend the keep for you, and spawn more for each one that MIGHT get killed.
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  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Playing on Wabba as DC I watched AD and EP spam caltrops relentlessly against our hopelessly outnumbered DC defensive crew at an outpost today. Eventually AD got through after we'd wiped both faction's pushes a number of times. In order to do this they spammed a road of caltrops and bubbled on it. They seemed pretty proud to take the outpost. In all this time I can't recall a single one of our guys using caltrops. It may have happened, of course, but I didn't see it.

    So I must say well done to those DC guys/girls for playing with some honour and decency in the face of caltrop spamming opposition. Quite restrained and respectable.

    It is appalling to see the nature of a lot of the people playing this game but it's inexcusable that the skill hasn't been disabled until it's fixed. ZOS your lack of response has been as disgraceful as the cheaters/exploiters ruining the PVP-lagfest.
  • Rackiera
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    Needs fixing now ..
  • Halrloprillalar
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    this makes me sad and forced to gank people instead
  • Mends_from_Shadows
    It's unfortunate that ZoS really doesn't give a *** about PvP. They are way too slow to respond to every issue. It's been weeks now of this caltrops immunity garbage in Cyrodiil. Just like it was weeks of the vampire bat swarm exploits.

    Now Cyrodiil has terrible lag too since this latest patch, and they are yet to address that as well.
    Cyrodiil Issues as of 6/3/2014
    - Massive Lag since Craglorn patch.(Still bad lag on "Laggajack" NA and some other campaigns.)
    - Forward Camps and other Siege bugging out frequently
    - Caltrops granting Immunity to Siege Weapon Damage
    - Massive Faction Imbalances in Most Campaigns / Several Dead Campaigns
    - Mercenary Mage Spam (sometimes causing them to go invulnerable)
    - Players exploiting Keeps/Scrolls through DK Chain Pulls to go around defenses

    Yay Zenimax is doing things.
  • Lord_Draevan
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    That picture is just sad and pathetic. I see that, I go back to PvE or switch campaigns.
    Don't give those AD *** the satisfaction. Let them enjoy a few weeks of PvWall until this gets fixed.
    Edited by Lord_Draevan on 27 May 2014 23:55
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  • Mends_from_Shadows
    Lag, Caltrops exploit, Forward Camp bugs, Merc Spam/Invincibility. WTB ZOS Response. PST.
    Cyrodiil Issues as of 6/3/2014
    - Massive Lag since Craglorn patch.(Still bad lag on "Laggajack" NA and some other campaigns.)
    - Forward Camps and other Siege bugging out frequently
    - Caltrops granting Immunity to Siege Weapon Damage
    - Massive Faction Imbalances in Most Campaigns / Several Dead Campaigns
    - Mercenary Mage Spam (sometimes causing them to go invulnerable)
    - Players exploiting Keeps/Scrolls through DK Chain Pulls to go around defenses

    Yay Zenimax is doing things.
  • NordJitsu
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    We should totally just start a bunch of threads about how Caltrops was fixed and spam "Thank you zenimax" all over zone chat just hoping that the exploiters will stop cheating.
    @NordJitsu - Guild Master (Main Character = Hlaalu Idas)
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  • Igolbug
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    We should totally just start a bunch of threads about how Caltrops was fixed and spam "Thank you zenimax" all over zone chat just hoping that the exploiters will stop cheating.

    You can do that, I just don't bother logging in until it is fixed.
    Igolbug
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  • Tintinabula
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    On wabbajack im seeing it less and less..on all alliance sides...but as long as its possible of course someone will throw them down.
  • Dealdrick
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    On wabbajack im seeing it less and less..on all alliance sides...but as long as its possible of course someone will throw them down.

    Thats because the lag on Waba is too severe to drop a ground target =p
  • Tintinabula
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    Dealdrick wrote: »
    On wabbajack im seeing it less and less..on all alliance sides...but as long as its possible of course someone will throw them down.

    Thats because the lag on Waba is too severe to drop a ground target =p

    Nothing more true can be said..you win the forums. :p
  • joshisanonymous
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    Fedrals: PC / NA / EP / NB

  • TheGrandAlliance
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    BTW it is not just Caltrops. ANy AoE that causes damage will do it too.
    Indeed it is so...
  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    What I don't understand is why they released the 1.1.3 patch notes for Monday early highlighting an exploit that's still in the game.
  • ErykGrimm
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    What I don't understand is why they released the 1.1.3 patch notes for Monday early highlighting an exploit that's still in the game.

    Because even my 91 year old grandmother knows about it, and she still confuses a computer for a microwave.
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