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Dear Zos, Armor is unbeleivably and utterly underpowered and useless

Kronosphere
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lets set the bench mark of a tank who tries to be tanky to have say 2k armor/spell resist (40% mitigation roughly i think) some sacrifices are made to get that amount of armor in dps. now 40% is ok ASSUMING armor wasnt so easy to cancel out that its ridiculous. lets look at some skills and perks which makes armor an absolute joke

pierce armor (sword and shield) reduce armor and spell resist 40% that is reasonable, its a hard up in your face move, so that reward is fair enough, same goes for fire breath morph which reduces armor 40% also. fair enough

Reapers Mark. this skill is absolutely. stupid good. its range in absolutely insane. 50 METRES and it reduces target armor AND spell resist 75% for ONE MINUTE. your 2k armor and resist is now at 500 (this is far below a glass cannon dps build in terms of def). range is crazy, reduction is crazy, duration is crazier. 0 risk max reward. imagine if a tank had an ability the reduced dps by 75% for 1 minute. itd be the best skill in the game hands down. ontop of that the reduction is for everyone not just the caster, and the caster deals an additional 60% damage on top of the reduction. (and restores 40% of their health when they kill you) gg.

Concentration on light armor at max rank gives a PERMANENT 42% spell penetration. your nice spell resist is now just over 1k if your lucky, making it 20% mitigation roughly. not that great. this one is so annoying due to it being so passive.

and ontop of all that junk everyone in pvp gets 400 penetration, as if there were already not enough ways armor was getting effed over.

ipso facto buff armor this is ridiculous, im not that worse off being naked really.

and to those who say l2p get the pots or skills that cleanse. well i say to you the day i get to nerf your main stat say dps, by 75% for 1 min or passively 42% always then i will say sure thats fair and do just that.

last off some perspective:

dps reducers
all ults
dk standard of might 35% reduction in damage (dps) takes 200 ult, an aoe u can walk out of

Nova 30% damage/dps reduction in an aoe u can walk out of. 300(!) ult

armor reducer
mark target 50m(!) 1 min duration(!) 75% reduction(!) comes with a whopping 560 magicka cost which sounds bad until u remember its a minute. and ends up costing 9.33 magicka per seconds. (even better than inferno for much better effects)


so pretty much what zos says with this(probably unintentionally). if u want to play pvp. play a light armor sorc or dk pyro magicka dps build or %@!$ off and bang your head against a wall.

the League of mages Elder Sorcerors Online people:
"haha silly tank u only last 1 seconds more... wait, the exact same time as me if not less as u will bwe the target of armor shredders and i dwarf your dps"

a good offense is literally the only defence

on the other side of the tree, atleast NB have something good right? that works even lol so good on zos for that.

/rant over

@Zos_GinaBruno & Friends =)
Edited by Kronosphere on 31 May 2014 06:10
~House Indoril~
Submit to the three, the spirits and thy lords.

  • Kronosphere
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    i think i know the answer but ill ask anyway. is armor shred considered a disabling effect? will the heavy armor skill immovable block or cleanse it?
    ~House Indoril~
    Submit to the three, the spirits and thy lords.

  • ipkonfigcub18_ESO
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    I'm a Nightblade - we wear lingerie armor. It's below Cloth.
  • Kronosphere
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    that is hot. ;)
    ~House Indoril~
    Submit to the three, the spirits and thy lords.

  • Baphomet
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    Tanking in ESO is all about health pool, blocking, CC and health regen - and some miss chance.

    Heavy armor is the least attractive armor type in my opinion, or at least was because now there are some heavy sets available with awesome set boni, but I would still be interested in seeing how heavy armor would work out if they removed the Cyrodiil armor penetration buff - might just be the thing heavy armor needs in order to become as good as light and medium.
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  • Kronosphere
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    yeah that is true im just saying a heavy armor with a high hp pool should not be as squishy as a dps caster just because he is not blocking. for the sacrifices there is only a marginal difference i think
    ~House Indoril~
    Submit to the three, the spirits and thy lords.

  • Baphomet
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    You are correct. Heavy armor is king in PvE where a lot of mobs are doing physical damage. In PvP light armor is king because most PCs use magicka attacks which are mitigated by spell resistance. Medium armor is king if you're using a high crit build or want high weapon damage with light/heavy attacks.

    Heavy armor should be buffed so that the bonus to melee attacks is increased considerably and the indirect healing you receive should be upped (rapid mending).
    Edited by Baphomet on 31 May 2014 07:52
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