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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

PvP Gear Progression

Oblongship
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Are you happy with the current PvP gear and campaign progression?

Please explain.
Edited by Oblongship on 28 May 2014 17:05

PvP Gear Progression 49 votes

Yes I like the current progression system
18%
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No I feel there needs to be more
69%
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I don't care about progression
12%
DCGoth_OTGNivzruo_ESOGeeYouWhyLeeshaui0ZOS_JuhoJ 6 votes
  • Gisgo
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    Id like progression not to be tied to gear but to skills, we need more cool alliance war skills like Rapid maneuver and... nvm, i was about to say Caltrops.
  • Oblongship
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    Gisgo wrote: »
    Id like progression not to be tied to gear but to skills, we need more cool alliance war skills like Rapid maneuver and... nvm, i was about to say Caltrops.

    This may sound sarcastic but it really isn't.

    Do you meant like costumes or cosmetic rewards and every stays at the same stats?
  • Vampiresbane
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    I've seen comments made by Zenimax that states that certain pvp sets require certain pvp ranks, but all I've seen are sets that require certain VR ranks, not pvp ranks.

    Switching these to pvp ranks would be more appropriate imo.
  • golem75eb17_ESO
    Gisgo wrote: »
    Id like progression not to be tied to gear but to skills, we need more cool alliance war skills like Rapid maneuver and... nvm, i was about to say Caltrops.

    This! I do not want a gear/stat treadmill, but playing for fun.
  • DontBeAfraid
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    i really miss DAoCs PvP skill reward system.
    would be AWESOME to have it in ESO!
    Marlic - Dragonknight - VR12 - Aldmeri Dominion - PvP Rank 29 - Ex-Emperor on Dawnbreaker - EU


  • joshisanonymous
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    I've seen comments made by Zenimax that states that certain pvp sets require certain pvp ranks, but all I've seen are sets that require certain VR ranks, not pvp ranks.

    Switching these to pvp ranks would be more appropriate imo.

    No no no no no.. That would be absolutely horrible. The last thing you want in PvP is for those who at higher ranks to also have exclusive access to better gear. That creates a situation where you're stuck doing nothing but zerging until you get to that rank, too. The only way this could work to any degree would be to make the higher rank sets negligibly better, as in almost of the exact same value as lower rank sets, but then you've defeated the purpose.

    You can look at Warhammer Online for how poorly this idea can play out. A lightly armored rank 80 player in that game could easily tank a melee DPS rank 40. There was just an enormous wall to get over for new players before they could even remotely enjoy PvP. You don't want that.
    Fedrals: PC / NA / EP / NB

  • Arreyanne
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    Yes I like the current progression system
    Here we go with gear grind in PvP and while were at it let's add some stat to that gear that reduces damage taken and increases damage dealt.

    That way skill will always be involved
  • Some_Jerk
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    Wish there was WAAYY more for the alliance skill lines. I dislike gear progression, but love getting new abilities and stats.
  • JosephChip
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    We need REAL PvP gear progression. Gear sets tied to alliance rank and plenty of cosmetics. No to special pvp stats on gear though. PvP needs its own gear rewards but nothing that would give a unfair advantage. Simply make it parallel to PvE gear.
    In short: PvPers want their rank progression to be rewarded and not just be a meaningless number. Hell even special titles and costumes would be great.
  • Vampiresbane
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    You can look at Warhammer Online for how poorly this idea can play out. A lightly armored rank 80 player in that game could easily tank a melee DPS rank 40. There was just an enormous wall to get over for new players before they could even remotely enjoy PvP. You don't want that.

    Honestly I liked the gear progression in Warhammer and that's probably why you and I will never agree on anything related to PvP gear progression. As it stands now, PvP "gear" relies on your PvE level, which is something I don't think should ever happen when you're playing primarily for PvP. That said, you're in luck, I doubt Zenimax will change it any time soon. I for one will just wait for Camelot Unchained to come out so PvP gear actually scales to your PvP rank again.
    Edited by Vampiresbane on 29 May 2014 13:42
  • Kungfu
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    i really miss DAoCs PvP skill reward system.
    would be AWESOME to have it in ESO!

    This
    I've seen comments made by Zenimax that states that certain pvp sets require certain pvp ranks, but all I've seen are sets that require certain VR ranks, not pvp ranks.

    Switching these to pvp ranks would be more appropriate imo.

    And this.
  • Oblongship
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    No I feel there needs to be more
    I've seen comments made by Zenimax that states that certain pvp sets require certain pvp ranks, but all I've seen are sets that require certain VR ranks, not pvp ranks.

    Switching these to pvp ranks would be more appropriate imo.

    I listened to a pod cast with the head of pvp at ZoS and he specifically was asked about this.

    He stated there will never be any pvp level requirements for gear nor will there ever be a pvp renown like system.
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