How to find racial motifs 101

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · April 2014

I had to make this post, because I am annoyed to see the prices going from 300g until Thursday to 2000g today.
And what crossed me more, is that every time I do say on zone for people how to do it, and not buy on the stupid prices, I receive plenty of hate and swearing whisper messages.And today that was the tip, since in one single instance I received 6 such messages from different people. (and whole zone was thanking me).

What you need to stack the odds to find them is to have Woodworking, Blacksmithing & Clothing to level 5.
It is not that difficult to be honest, just harvest some wood, jute, rawhide and ore and make level 14 items. (it will help financially if you have a nice stock of your racial stones gathered and you do not have to buy).

a) Then if you are in AD, every time you have to deal with your bank, visit the Vulkhel one.
Scan the ground floor. Wardrobes, desks, chests. You will find one every 3-4 visits. (different instances).

b) You can find them on any place you visit often, and has wardrobes, chests (the triangular ones), etc.
Like the castle in Skywatch, or any similar type building on the other alliances.

c) You will find them, in urns in group dungeons. I found two on Banished Cells.

However (A) is what I did mostly, found gazillion of them to allow me learn the motifs, sell a few for 300g on early days and supply my guild and my friends when the prices creep up.

Finally, buying resources & items from people you do not know, be certain that the money going to the gold-farmers that will sell gold to someone else for real money. You can farm all the resources on your own, you can craft anything, and just keep going with drops & white gear until level 50.
Then you will have so much improving mats, that you will have no trouble make purple gear.

(Enchanting is the tough one, but just buy the damn glyphs then).

Mitrenga · April 2014

I agree with your post except one point.

"Finally, buying recourses & items from people you do not know, be certain that the money going to the gold-farmers that will sell gold to someone else for real money. "

This is the weirdest thing I have read on these forums. I have sold 4 motif books from ppl in general chat so far. Also I have sold many items in guild shop. I do not know any of them. This idea kills trading in an Online game.

Brusco · April 2014

@OP:

Yeah I agree with your tips; it's how I found my Motifs.

I'm also of the same mind when it comes to self reliance, but the gold farmers thing - yeah that's the first time I've heard of such a thing. I don't know if that happens or not. Clue me in?

MercyKilling · April 2014

And what if you're not in AD? Where do you "farm" racial motifs then? Because I can say that I have been playing since the first early access day in EP and have not found ONE SINGLE racial motif anywhere. All I ever find are crafting mats for drinks and food, or recipes. A whole week...and nothing.

I've also seen prices for those motifs go from 500g to 1.5-2k gold in that time, which is a bit ridiculous, if you ask me.

lupusrex · April 2014

Anywhere there are desks, trunks, nightstands, backpacks, dressers, or wardrobes can be farmed for motifs and recipes. Inns, banks, and even people's houses in every city will have these containers. You can even logout and login to reset the containers, although personally I'm nervous to try that since it might be considered exploiting.

Riny01 · April 2014

The only motif book I have is the one that was given to me by a friend o_O

Woenprom · April 2014

Good post, I have figured out this trick myself.
Got two complete sets of motiff books simply doing lazy bank farming with 2 alts since early access.

hilelorangutan · April 2014

As to the rising prices @ OP this probably has more to do with the fact that A. People have a little more banked gold now and B. People are completing out sets with the motifs they don't have and therefore are willing to spend more for the completion.

I agree you could continue to farm as you described (and that does work so I agree there) however there is no guarantee that you will find the Motif you lack, as it is randomized and you can find ones you have found before. So personally I have no issue with the selling cost on these, its the flavor of the week, enjoy a dynamic trading system.

Appren · April 2014

"What you need to stack the odds to find them is to have Woodworking, Blacksmithing & Clothing to level 5."
How is this going to help? What kind of statistical proof do you have for this to help? The only "real" way to farm the books is to spam chests and hope for RNG. My highest level char has opened all chests he ever ran into, and has all relevant crafts at 10+ without ever getting a book, while a noob level 3 char that spent some time in the AD starter bank got several books in a fairly short time, with no tradeskills whatsoever.

"Finally, buying resources & items from people you do not know, be certain that the money going to the gold-farmers that will sell gold to someone else for real money. You can farm all the resources on your own, you can craft anything, and just keep going with drops & white gear until level 50.
Then you will have so much improving mats, that you will have no trouble make purple gear.
"
What kind of nonsense is this? If you don't like trading, fine, but don't go claiming everyone you'd potentially trade with are goldsellers or goldbuyers, that's just ridicolous.

Dunhilda · April 2014

OMFG I may or may not had given gold to a gold seller?!

BAN ME

No really that was stupid and with that kind of idea you will get no where, here to add to that logic

You sell a motif for 300 gold, a gold seller see this and buys it and then sell for 2000 gold, great job TC you just funded a gold seller with easy gold!

R1ckyDaMan · April 2014

why do you need the crafts to rank 5?

Stx · April 2014

The reason he is saying be careful who you buy from is simply because selling Motifs is the main source of gold making for illegal gold sellers atm.

TomLukman · April 2014

Stx wrote: »

The reason he is saying be careful who you buy from is simply because selling Motifs is the main source of gold making for illegal gold sellers atm.

Now I'm not buying one ever - just beacause. It also explains why trading one book for another feels like a big chore.

Rosebloome · April 2014

Make a new character and stay in starter coldharbour running around opening trunks like a mad man? Heard motiffs can drop from there and theres like no other greater cluster of trunks than there.

aftershock911_ESO · April 2014

Honestly never got one from a trunk I got 4 in one day out of desks, dressers and nightstands.

fatalslink · April 2014

I got a ton while the bloodthorn assassin quest was bugged. I was in the rightmost ship in DF in the captains cabin and every 1-2 times I logged I would find one in his wardrobe

ItISLupus · April 2014

Motifs have been between 1-2k since day one. And 2k is pushing it. The only ones worth more are the 5 later ones, Ancient, Primal, Daedric, Brutal and Imperial.

AbeFroman · April 2014

I need to go hunting these myself. I have not found any since I have been playing. Thanks for the tips.

tengri · April 2014

Found exactly one since Early Access. Breton.
And I am sniffing out each and every container in every house I enter.

And now, guess what race my char is...

spinedoc · April 2014

Weird, I'm level 18 now and on AD and I've never found a single motif. I loot every single thing I can, it's an obsession. My crafting is also 8-10 for each. Not a single freakin motif in all this time.

Abeille · April 2014

I found 7 nord motifs (yeah, really) just in Auridon. Glad I found people willing to trade other basic motifs for them.

eruexe · April 2014

Only ever found one.

eNumbra · April 2014

I feel like they may have toned down the drop rate, in the first few days, from early access to maybe the third day post release I averaged about 2.5 motifs a day, outfitted my main with all the normals and my DK and Templar alts with most of the motifs.

Since then I've seen maybe 4-5 total.

Vampiresbane · April 2014

Appren wrote: »

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"Finally, buying resources & items from people you do not know, be certain that the money going to the gold-farmers that will sell gold to someone else for real money. You can farm all the resources on your own, you can craft anything, and just keep going with drops & white gear until level 50.
Then you will have so much improving mats, that you will have no trouble make purple gear.
"
What kind of nonsense is this? If you don't like trading, fine, but don't go claiming everyone you'd potentially trade with are goldsellers or goldbuyers, that's just ridicolous.

He's not completely off his rocker. There has been a lot of reports of gold farmers using a map hack to teleport from resource node to resource node allowing them to accumulate vast quanities of ore/cloth/alchemy ingredients. It sadly is an issue.

iptvrevolutionub17_ESO · April 2014

While I agree with most of your post, I like to sell my excess crafting materials for gold. What's wrong with that? It's part of a healthy player economy.....

Why would you include me in the same cesspool of scum as gold sellers?

Matrinka · April 2014

I agree Enchanting is the tough one as nodes should provide glyphs for extraction, rather than the refined materials making it needlessly hard.

Pele · April 2014

I fail to see a problem. I'm fairly certain everyone is aware that with enough grinding one can obtain all the motifs. However, there may be folks who don't want to grind for them or—as others have stated—they simply have bad luck finding them. If they have the gold to spend and not the time, then why not?

Also, not everyone who sells their motifs is a gold spammer.

purple-magicb16_ESO · May 2014

Man, hatewisps are the worst and are so uncalled for. You're just giving players helpful advice and encouraging them to actually play the game. When did that become a crime? Besides, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who want to achieve their ends without actually working for it.