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Is it possible to have one discussion about templar...

grizzbi
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...without having this discussion transformed into a discussion about NB?

Can we now have just a few official words about templar?

- What's ZOS feeling about the class current state?
- Can we expect a few adjustments? And in that case, which ones?

Thanks by advance!
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Well , for they said they would remove the current issue with bitting jabs and increase the mana cost , which remains to be seen , other than that , i heard of no other changes/plans incoming.
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  • glitchmaster999
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    I have heard rumors that the Templar is being buffed up a tiny bit but they are probably at the level that they should be, whereas nightblades need to be buffed up to their level (yes I mentioned them :P ) and dragonknights/sorcs need to be brought down in some areas to match the templar. I do think that templars are in need of a little bit of love though.
  • Birfreben_Kinghelred
    Obviously, you weren't supposed to lvl 1-50 and vr1-10 using only one skill. They fixed it, try a combination of one of your 15 other skills and 10 more weapons skills and see what works.

    One of my IRL friends uses a temp, I asked him how the nerf was. He said "what nerf?"
  • Celurian
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    Since those awesome Moderators won't give us an ETA i send in a ticket and just received an (personal!) answer within 10 minutes which basically said:

    "Dear Celurian,
    I apologize that you don't like some recent changes and i can understand you. The only thing at this point i can do is to give this Feedback to the responsible team - what i am going to do right now.

    Please don't lose the fun with the Game. You will see, that things will get better from time to time. The Game just released 2 months ago and the developer are working hard to fix bugs, even if sometimes something goes wrong, like the recent patch.

    Regards [...]"

  • glitchmaster999
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    Celurian wrote: »
    Since those awesome Moderators won't give us an ETA i send in a ticket and just received an (personal!) answer within 10 minutes which basically said:

    "Dear Celurian,
    I apologize that you don't like some recent changes and i can understand you. The only thing at this point i can do is to give this Feedback to the responsible team - what i am going to do right now.

    Please don't lose the fun with the Game. You will see, that things will get better from time to time. The Game just released 2 months ago and the developer are working hard to fix bugs, even if sometimes something goes wrong, like the recent patch.

    Regards [...]"

    Wow sounds like they are really feeling the hurt over there, that is an amazing response to be getting though, good job :D It's good to have confirmation that they are working hard unlike some people would like to believe.
  • Phantorang
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    Remove cooldown on Solar Barrage, it got the same issue as Biting Jabs, making it useless.
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  • PBpsy
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    So I heard that NightBlades can fart rainbows out of their ass. Anybody can confirm that pls?
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  • glitchmaster999
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Remove cooldown on Solar Barrage, it got the same issue as Biting Jabs, making it useless.

    Yeah that I found when I was still playing my templar, solar barage is amazing as a concept but it takes too long to cast so you lose dps when casting it. My plan was open with biting jabs from stealth then solar barage whirlwind till they die..
  • Phantorang
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    bothnutz wrote: »
    Obviously, you weren't supposed to lvl 1-50 and vr1-10 using only one skill. They fixed it, try a combination of one of your 15 other skills and 10 more weapons skills and see what works.

    One of my IRL friends uses a temp, I asked him how the nerf was. He said "what nerf?"

    So your friend is a ***, what else is new?
    Edited by Phantorang on 28 May 2014 01:13
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  • glitchmaster999
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    So I heard that NightBlades can fart rainbows out of their ass. Anybody can confirm that pls?

    Only if they use a destro staff, or ride a unicorn...
  • PBpsy
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    So I heard that NightBlades can fart rainbows out of their ass. Anybody can confirm that pls?

    Only if they use a destro staff, or ride a unicorn...

    Oh that is suxorz. I guess NBs are broken and so is the game.
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  • CosmicChaos
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    I've been running my Templar since I started playing and for the most part I love it. I'm v4 and have been able to solo most of the content excluding group dungeons and the occasional wtf situation. I don't have as much dps as a sorc, but I have had really good success in 3v1 encounters since my last respec at v2. Still keeping an eye out for ways to improve of course. :)
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    bothnutz wrote: »
    Obviously, you weren't supposed to lvl 1-50 and vr1-10 using only one skill. They fixed it, try a combination of one of your 15 other skills and 10 more weapons skills and see what works.

    One of my IRL friends uses a temp, I asked him how the nerf was. He said "what nerf?"

    You can say that 100000 times , i would rather quit this game, than just overcoming this like it was not a major error on zens part.

    Templars were already behind on dps , they came around and made it even worse while they allow DKs to run around soloing craglorn like it is nothing? Yeah , not going to happen.

    Zen went too far this time.

    Im not going to keep playing a underdog that just keeps getting hit.

    Either they change this back , or i go play something , cause i wont lvl an alt that you can be sure.
    Celurian wrote: »
    Since those awesome Moderators won't give us an ETA i send in a ticket and just received an (personal!) answer within 10 minutes which basically said:

    "Dear Celurian,
    I apologize that you don't like some recent changes and i can understand you. The only thing at this point i can do is to give this Feedback to the responsible team - what i am going to do right now.

    Please don't lose the fun with the Game. You will see, that things will get better from time to time. The Game just released 2 months ago and the developer are working hard to fix bugs, even if sometimes something goes wrong, like the recent patch.

    Regards [...]"

    The sad part is how the teams are divided , we bash on the forums , and those get the heat are the mods and the support people (which i may add were just amazing while helping me out , i have nothing but thanks to these guys).

    The devs who made the mess probably dont even see the mess they made , they just get polite messages with some gathered feedback from the forums.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • Celurian
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    Celurian wrote: »
    Since those awesome Moderators won't give us an ETA i send in a ticket and just received an (personal!) answer within 10 minutes which basically said:

    "Dear Celurian,
    I apologize that you don't like some recent changes and i can understand you. The only thing at this point i can do is to give this Feedback to the responsible team - what i am going to do right now.

    Please don't lose the fun with the Game. You will see, that things will get better from time to time. The Game just released 2 months ago and the developer are working hard to fix bugs, even if sometimes something goes wrong, like the recent patch.

    Regards [...]"

    Wow sounds like they are really feeling the hurt over there, that is an amazing response to be getting though, good job :D It's good to have confirmation that they are working hard unlike some people would like to believe.

    Well -probably - it's hard to believe that for me too. Since Craglorn i died a thousand times in Bankorai because first of all the monsters has been made to strong with the patch and still die every few trash monsters because the main spell of the templar, which has made (perfectly in combination with Dark flare and reflective light!) the most damage but where also protecting yourself by heavy /special attacks from monsters while repositioning to knockback the casting one.

    For all those nerf defenders:
    Of course its no fun to spamm one skill to level the whole time. But if i dont want to spamm impuls instead we dont have much alternativs. This is basically a lack of fighting system. not by the players itself. If we r going for Solo PvE, we don't have much class related options to speck to aoe.
    If there whould be 1 Mop at a time, no one whould frikking cry. -But 3 Monsters without having a lot usable AoEs is just pain in the ass.

  • Phantorang
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    I've been running my Templar since I started playing and for the most part I love it. I'm v4 and have been able to solo most of the content excluding group dungeons and the occasional wtf situation. I don't have as much dps as a sorc, but I have had really good success in 3v1 encounters since my last respec at v2. Still keeping an eye out for ways to improve of course. :)

    Take a look at a sorc and DK doing the same, just with 5+ mobs, in a shorter amount of time. Then you dont feel as happy with the state of the Templar anymore.
    Edited by Phantorang on 28 May 2014 01:18
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  • Celurian
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    I've been running my Templar since I started playing and for the most part I love it. I'm v4 and have been able to solo most of the content excluding group dungeons and the occasional wtf situation. I don't have as much dps as a sorc, but I have had really good success in 3v1 encounters since my last respec at v2. Still keeping an eye out for ways to improve of course. :)

    Take a look at a sorc and DK doing the same, just with 5+ mobs, in a shorter amount of time. Then you dont feel as happy with the state of the Templar anymore.

    This is frikking the truth and i feld pissed off so hard when someone in Teamspeak just mentioned "Oh if you want to level some different skills go to Craglorn and farm those Moths. 7 Moths at a time gives good loot too!"
    I was like: "Wtf? 7 Moths at the time makes me spamming my self heal untill i ran out of magicka and die"
    ...and my armor is completly gold Vet10.
  • Gisgo
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    Its a tough situation for Templars: you suck, but not enough to be entitled to whine on the forum like us NBs.

    /comfort
  • Darrett
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    Gisgo wrote: »
    Its a tough situation for Templars: you suck, but not enough to be entitled to whine on the forum like us NBs.

    /comfort

    Except NBs make better healers.

    So...
  • hk11
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    Use staves like a weak wizard. That is the vision.
  • DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs
    My two cent, just finished lvling my templer healer to vet 10, basically i only use one templer healing all the rest are staff, i find them much more efficient. So rerolled sorc lvl 14 already a better healer, endles mana, buffs, and dmg at the same time.

  • Celurian
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    inspiral1 wrote: »
    My two cent, just finished lvling my templer healer to vet 10, basically i only use one templer healing all the rest are staff, i find them much more efficient. So rerolled sorc lvl 14 already a better healer, endles mana, buffs, and dmg at the same time.

    This is probably the Truth. Specially because sorcerers Weapon damage Buffs increases the restoring staff Heal spells too!
  • grizzbi
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    edit: never mind...
    Edited by grizzbi on 28 May 2014 15:42
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