Rare crafting motifs, is the "nerf" a myth?

kevjon74_ESO · May 2014

I haven't found a single common motif, let alone a rare one, since the patch. Before the patch I'd find at least one common one every other evening or so. The drop rate now sucks.

IIxGH0STxII · May 2014

ZedalisDesign wrote: »

Since the patch/nerf, I've received ZERO motifs or blue recipes in Reaper's March (A vet 10 zone). I've effectively tried to farm for 10+ hours now. The one time I tried to farm before the patch, I got 3 rare motifs in <2 hours. This isn't some conspiracy or just bad luck, it's a deliberate change.

I don't really understand the decision. Granted, things that are supposed to be rare should be, as opposed to the market being completely saturated with them...but I think they've gone a bit too far on the opposite side of the spectrum. Those people who farmed these consistently before the patch now have a significant upper hand against those who did not. And no, I'm not crying because I don't have the motifs (I'm only missing one), I'm more concerned with the player base who are now out of luck.

Had a change not been made, sure, everybody may have ended up with a motif but at least the bots wouldn't be making a pretty penny on each sale. I wish they had made these motifs unique to begin with. That way, you either couldn't get another after learning the style...or at the very least, you could only have one in your inventory/bank to prevent people from stockpiling them as much.

This change is unfortunate because I can 100% guarantee most players will have less incentive to loot containers at all now, considering (at least by my own statistics), it's a complete waste of time and you will get nothing of value 99% of the time. It renders another dynamic part of the game a bit useless.

Sadly I'm about to reach the point where I stop to care about loot containers. Six of ten containers are empty, three have lockpicks in them and in one of ten are crafting materials. I haven't found a single motif or useful recipe since the nerf (I used to find a minimum of one or two regular motifs per day before). The current situation is just pure bs and definitely needs a change.
It really makes me angry that we have to suffer now for some other players greed and money hungry china farmers.

Spidermonk · May 2014

SirAndy wrote: »

Nope, the last two i found were at least quadruplicates, if not quintuplicates ...;-)

*Plays "Lucky" sound clip from Napoleon Dynamite*

Cyrus The Virus · May 2014

so i bought the imperial edition and chose the imperial race for the luck race effect. been playing since day one checking all the containers and i have found one bosmer motif and that´s all folks. now v1 and cancelled my subscription because of the low drops and bots. maybe i'll come back if things change, but 250k for daedric motic is just insane.

"this doesn't feel like a fun game anymore, it feels like a WORK."

vyal · May 2014

Sendarya wrote: »

I'm looking for something more than someone telling us that they used to farm them and get 2 to 3 a day, and now get maybe one a week. I'm looking for some facts. So far those of you saying the drop rate has been reduced have nothing to back it up.

I appreciate the dev link! That is for a future patch, though.

I still see tons of them for sale, so I will continue to assume it is a player started myth/rumor until someone can provide some facts.

Here's your fact. Enjoy.

Sendarya · May 2014

Yes, I see they admitted it. No need to be smug.
I also see they did it in 1.05.

SDZald · May 2014

EDIT ahhh there you are sorry for my smug remark, removed it

I have played all the MMO's and when the player base starts to complain about stealth nerfs it is best to listen to them. more time then not they are right.

Lupinemw · May 2014

Cyrus The Virus wrote: »

so i bought the imperial edition and chose the imperial race for the luck race effect. been playing since day one checking all the containers and i have found one bosmer motif and that´s all folks. now v1 and cancelled my subscription because of the low drops and bots. maybe i'll come back if things change, but 250k for daedric motic is just insane.

"this doesn't feel like a fun game anymore, it feels like a WORK."

Yeah real sorry that the Devs made you put a little effort into playing. I hope RL just hands you everything on a plate so you don't have to do anything there. I'd hate for you to strain something...

SDZald · May 2014

Lupinemw you do understand that this is a game, played for fun right? Some people because they work so hard in real life, don't have hours and hours of time to 'work' in game and that the little bit of time they can find to play might just be more valuable them then a power gamers many hours.

This is not a personal contest, just because you can 'work' to obtain things in game does not make you any better a person or that a casual gamer who pays the same exact amount of money as you do is wrong to expect to experience the same content.

Alephen · May 2014

to paraphrase sheldon cooper

game? you think it is a game? candy crush is a game. hopscotch is a game. ESO is a massively multiplayerrole playing... ok technically it's a game.

apparently some people think games are about self validation, and not fun. /shrug personally think it is kind of sad. but good news for the game validated power gamers, now their keen use of exploits and 12+ hour a day play sessions will be further rewarded: first with extra powers from emperorship, then reduced drops for about the only things that sell, motifs and tempers, now bonus leaderboard rewards for craglorn content.

SDZald · May 2014

Alephen LOL nice post, by the way who the heck is Sheldon Cooper?

Lupinemw · May 2014

SDZald wrote: »

Lupinemw you do understand that this is a game, played for fun right? Some people because they work so hard in real life, don't have hours and hours of time to 'work' in game and that the little bit of time they can find to play might just be more valuable them then a power gamers many hours.

This is not a personal contest, just because you can 'work' to obtain things in game does not make you any better a person or that a casual gamer who pays the same exact amount of money as you do is wrong to expect to experience the same content.

I think you miss the point.

I am a casual gamer.

Tarukmockto · May 2014

SDZald wrote: »

Alephen LOL nice post, by the way who the heck is Sheldon Cooper?

He is the geeky genius from a TV show called Big Bang Theory on CBS. One of the two main characters of the show.

SDZald · May 2014

Tarukmockto wrote: »

SDZald wrote: »

Alephen LOL nice post, by the way who the heck is Sheldon Cooper?

He is the geeky genius from a TV show called Big Bang Theory on CBS. One of the two main characters of the show.

Ahhh TV no wonder I didn't know. About the only thing I watch on TV anymore is sports.

LonePirate · May 2014

I found the Primal Motif this morning in the VR2 version of the Wayrest Treasury.

LonePirate · May 2014

I just found the Barbaric Racial Motif in the exact same location where I found the Primal motif earlier this morning - the VR2 version of the Wayrest Treasury. I went about a month without finding a motif book of any type and within three hours today, I have found two of the upper level rare motif books. I am shocked.

Sendarya · May 2014

I am pretty sure from the huge number I've seen for sale constantly since the Craiglorn went live that the drop rate was increased back to near early levels. And prices are almost down to early levels too. I see Primal for about 20k, barbaric at 25 or 30k, AE and Daedric 50to 60k. So this patch fixed drops and the prices are much more reasonable now.
I just got into V1 areas myself, and have my fingers crossed to find something in the next week or two. I don't expect to find them all, ever, but finding one in the next 2 weeks would be an acceptable rate for me.

shaiten · May 2014

The previous nerf that stopped the logging in and out has been reversed. Whether intentional or not I do not know. I spent 2 hours farming bank in Alduron--(Spelling) and came up with 2 Daedric and 1 Ancient Elf Motif .. not to mention about 45 Daedra Hearts and Pallidium.

So if you are after those two the bank in the first Vet 6 zone has the most things to open.

For Barbaric and Primal I'm not sure of the best place.

Imperial drops in the 1 - 50 zones