If we are comparing drop rates, I get about 1/3 as many recipe drops as green gear drops. I get 0-1 blue gear drops per day, and 0-1 blue recipe drops a week. I have seen a grand total of 1 purple recipe drop.

As far as motifs go, I haven't noticed much of a change, but I've never been one of those "farming six an hour" type people. I find another motif every week or two.

me neither

What if I told you that your expectations of what a "rare" and "epic" drop are have been unfairly influenced by games that hold your hand?

The word epic in and of itself is so broken now

I think the point is that recipes, necessary for the effective use of provisioning, need to drop more, otherwise the crafting line is virtually useless. With no vet level drops of food/beverage bases, no vet level food at all in vet level areas, the impossibility of getting certain items such as tomatoes and oats, and the incredible scarcity of recipes of blue and purple, it is far less useful than any other line, and the second hardest (in spite of the ease of levelling) to get max use out of, only nudged out by enchanting. Motifs are visual fluff...nobody refuses a Vet 10 gold armor because it isn't the right racial motif, so they don't compare, and everything else in the weapon/armor lines is far easier to get than the rare items in provisioning. Also provisions get used up, so must be renewed. Once you have a V10 chestpiece, you can keep it forever if you like. Alchemy water for vet levels is widely available from V1 areas on, and the other reagents are literally everywhere. And it raises quickly. Enchanting is the only one that is harder to deal with, and even it doesn't have the sheer volume of items requiring bank space that provisioning does if you want to provide a wide range of goods for your guild or friends.

Inupis wrote: »

Why do people feel they should have everything....the game is a month old. Guess what in Real MMO's people do not get some stuff for years.

Bit like life but using that on people is a wasted statement.

To be honest the argument is mute, once you hit the higher recipes you will need very little storage as the items needed are pretty small. So what if there is 3 different faction versions of the same recipe. they do the same thing.

Am I glad they are hard to find, hell yeah. Am I worried they will be harder, nope it keeps me playing.

Inupis wrote: »

Why do people feel they should have everything....the game is a month old. Guess what in Real MMO's people do not get some stuff for years.

Why does this MMO need to behave like other MMOs? Why can't it chart its own course? What is wrong with pleasing the game's customer base -the players?

Can't find recipes? Isn't that what guilds and zone chat are for?

To talk to people who may have better luck than you at getting these drops to sell them.

When were we supposed to start finding veteran level provisioning items inside containers in veteran level zones? I just found some level 22 drinks inside one of the desks in the VR2 version of Wayrest.

RomedyMC wrote: »

What if I told you that your expectations of what a "rare" and "epic" drop are have been unfairly influenced by games that hold your hand?

the implication is that this is not a game that holds your hand. i have never seen a game that holds your hand more than this one.

NPC - 'look for this person, we sent scouts, but are unable to find him!'
me - really? because i have a waypoint on my interactive map"

NPC - 'there have been alot of disappearances, noone knows what is happening!'
me - 'well here is your problem, see this map marker that says to investigate the disappearances at those ruins? see the note? it tells you how to get past the wards that noone has been able to figure out in over 500 years.'

The only thing about reducing drop rates that I don't like is that gold and item farmers then make more real money from doing that.

Here we have Zenimax saying they are actively seeking out gold and item farmers and bots and then they reduce drop rates which makes gold and item farmers more viable...

So if the dev team can't come up with more creative ways to keep people wanting to pay to play then reducing drop rates then why should I bother to report gold sellers/famers? I get at least 2 to 3 in game mails a day advertising gold and item sellers, I have been getting those emails since launch and I reported them repeatedly but with the poor way the dev team tackles these problems I feel it is a waste of my time to even report them any longer....